MikeJordan23 0 Report post Posted November 24, 2004 He'll have to wait the 4 game suspension and then he'll be reinstated Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
starvenger 0 Report post Posted November 24, 2004 Hrmph. Must've been some sort of out-of-court settlement... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2GOLD 0 Report post Posted November 24, 2004 Yeah, but doesn't this stand in the way of his dream of becoming a doctor of holistic medicine? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Shadow Behind You Report post Posted November 24, 2004 Isn't the season over anyways after the suspension? Dolphins shouldn't play him anways. Trade his ass Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Vitamin X Report post Posted November 24, 2004 Shit, Packers'll take him right now. Everyone's injured. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Shadow Behind You Report post Posted November 24, 2004 I really believe Oakland will end up "winning" the Ricky Williams sweepstakes at the end of the season and Miami either drafts a new RB or guns for Edgerin. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Vitamin X Report post Posted November 24, 2004 The city of Oakland also passed a bill recently to decriminalize marijuana.. So there you go. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kahran Ramsus 0 Report post Posted November 24, 2004 Shit, Packers'll take him right now. Everyone's injured. Green will miss a game max. He only has bruised ribs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Damaramu 0 Report post Posted November 24, 2004 He's just so weird.......10 bucks he turns Muslim before this is all said and done. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NoCalMike 0 Report post Posted November 24, 2004 I know in San Francisco county they do not allow drug testing for jobs anymore...lol. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted November 24, 2004 Which doesn't really come into effect here, since you have no right to a job in the NFL and must agree to all the terms of employment --- including the drug testing. -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Art Sandusky 0 Report post Posted November 24, 2004 So weird to use terms like "employment" when talking about the NFL. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Agent of Oblivion Report post Posted November 24, 2004 I really believe Oakland will end up "winning" the Ricky Williams sweepstakes at the end of the season and Miami either drafts a new RB or guns for Edgerin. I'd be willing to see the Colts give up James for a Zack Thomas and some defensive bolstering. Indy's offense is a swiss watch right now. They could stick Bernie Parmalee in there at RB and be successful. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kkktookmybabyaway 0 Report post Posted November 24, 2004 So weird to use terms like "employment" when talking about the NFL. It's a business. And fuck Williams -- he should be blacklisted from the league... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
the max 0 Report post Posted November 24, 2004 Would anyone want him as a teammate? I wouldn't want him on my team. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted November 24, 2004 Would anyone want him as a teammate? I wouldn't want him on my team. I heard he has some dank shit, though. -=Mike ...Nugs, babee. Nugs! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cabbageboy 0 Report post Posted November 24, 2004 Oakland will sign him. He'd just fit in perfectly there, heh. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spaceman Spiff 0 Report post Posted November 24, 2004 I really believe Oakland will end up "winning" the Ricky Williams sweepstakes at the end of the season and Miami either drafts a new RB or guns for Edgerin. I'd be willing to see the Colts give up James for a Zack Thomas and some defensive bolstering. Indy's offense is a swiss watch right now. They could stick Bernie Parmalee in there at RB and be successful. James will be a FA. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sass 0 Report post Posted November 24, 2004 The Raiders have had guys with waaaaaayyy more baggage come in and play for them. Just saying. He'll do okay with the silver and black attack. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MikeJordan23 0 Report post Posted November 24, 2004 I really believe Oakland will end up "winning" the Ricky Williams sweepstakes at the end of the season and Miami either drafts a new RB or guns for Edgerin. I can only hope. We need more than a Ricky Williams though Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest LooneyTune Report post Posted November 24, 2004 Ricky Williams - Only coming out of retirement so he can fill his home in Hawaii with marijuana, or whatever drug he likes to use. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sass 0 Report post Posted November 25, 2004 Ricky and Norv Turner, a love rekindled. It was meant to happen. The Raiders winning the SB with Ricky is meant to happen. The Raiders asking for Zach Thomas is also meant to happen. And dumping Rich Gannon MUST happen. He's too old. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Vitamin X Report post Posted November 26, 2004 Here's a good article regarding the whole situation and what really might end up happening... Pay attention to the lips. When was the last time you heard Ricky Williams say he was interested in playing football? When was the last time you heard him say he loved the NFL life? One year ago? Two years ago? Ever? For all the weekly updates, news clips, memos, emails and the like, there is no indication – none, absolutely zero – that Williams has any interest in playing football. And if you put an ounce of faith into the current efforts at reinstatement, here is a little story for you. When Barry Sanders went into retirement in 1999, it began an annual cycle of "Barry wants to play" stories leaked to the media. The premise was always the same: If the Lions would only do (insert a demand here), Sanders might be interested in playing again. Without fail, the lips making these statements were almost always attached to an agent or financial representative. The suggestions of a possible career resurrection were passed like a baton between Sanders' agents (Lamont Smith to David Ware to Peter Schaffer). But at last February's Super Bowl, while speaking to Sanders about his Hall of Fame induction, he was asked if he ever told his agents to make those overtures. ADVERTISEMENT "No," Sanders said. "When I left, I was retired." Then why were his agents making statements about a possible return? "I guess they wanted me to play again." There's a lesson in there, and that lesson is to pay attention to the lips. Because it has everything to do with what the real motivations are for Ricky Williams. All of these stories, leaks and possibilities are coming from two sources. One is his attorney, David Cornwall. The other is his agent, Leigh Steinberg. Nobody in the world wants Ricky Williams back in the NFL more than those two individuals. But the only voice that really matters is that of Williams, who is studying holistic medicine at a school near Sacramento, Calif. And here are the most vital statements that have crossed his lips since he retired: "I understand their wishful thinking," Williams told the San Francisco Chronicle. "It's easy math. If I play, it puts more money in their pocket. "In football, I loved to practice and I loved to play, but I hated to be in meetings, hated to talk to the media, hated to have cameras in my face, hated to sign autographs. I hated to do all those things." Williams also told Sports Illustrated, "I can't imagine being any happier than I am right now. If my decision to walk away upset some people, I'm sorry. But everyone has a right to be happy – it's what the constitution says – and football wasn't doing it for me." Compare those statements to the sparse few from Sanders immediately after his retirement. There are eerie similarities, not because Sanders and Williams are anything alike but because they apparently found something else that made them happy. Yet, here we are, talking about how Williams is "close" to being reinstated by the NFL and how mediation from Cornwall has yielded a possible four-game suspension and return for Williams to the Miami Dolphins in 2005. Yet there's no indication from Williams that he has anything to do with seeking such a reinstatement. Most mystifying about this whole affair is the depth and volume to which Williams' possible return has been trumpeted. When we consider the realities of Ricky Williams the NFL player, it pales when placed against Ricky Williams the "idea." He's the player who gets more attractive the further he drifts into the distance. In five seasons, Williams was named to the Pro Bowl once. That was his banner 2002 campaign, when he ran for 1,853 yards and scored 17 total touchdowns. The other four seasons, he never averaged more than four yards per rushing attempt. He never ran for double-digit touchdowns in any other season. His final year, he grinded through 3.5 yards per carry, and in the lone playoff game of his career, he carried the ball six times for 14 yards. Now mix those rewards with all the weirdness, aloof nature and occasional fumbling problems. It's not like this was Jim Brown-cutting-short-something epic. Of course, none of the numbers or strange disposition can fully reflect what is in Williams' heart. Only he can do that. And why wouldn't we believe him when he says the game isn't held within? Maybe it's because the drumbeat persists from Cornwall and Steinberg. But even if that duo can convince Williams to re-enter the league, what then? Miami's estranged locker room may be the only place that can harbor him. Unless the Dolphins are willing to part ways with Williams for a pittance (or put performance-laden clauses into a trade that would yield a higher pick), it's doubtful many teams would be interested in acquiring him. Even then, a team would be taking a massive risk. Not only is Williams less than three years from the dreaded age of 30 – when most running backs begin their decline – his sudden retirement always will undermine his reliability. How can you build around a player who walked out on a previous team and has repeatedly admitted marijuana is a larger part of his personal agenda than the NFL? Yes, people can change. Mindsets and decisions can be altered. But for now, just realize that people like Cornwall and Steinberg have MILLION$ of reasons why their client should get back into the NFL. But for all the talk, Ricky Williams' own lips can't seem to give even one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MikeJordan23 0 Report post Posted December 2, 2004 nevermind Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kkktookmybabyaway 0 Report post Posted December 2, 2004 Bastard. I thought there was an update. Thanks for ruining everything... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MikeJordan23 0 Report post Posted December 2, 2004 Bastard. I thought there was an update. Thanks for ruining everything... AP NewsBreak: Williams rejects deal that would have allowed him back in 2005 By TIM REYNOLDS, AP Sports Writer December 2, 2004 MIAMI (AP) -- Ricky Williams rejected a deal that would have allowed him to serve a four-game drug suspension this season and return to the NFL next year. ``Ricky indicated to me that he is no longer interested in resuming his career at this time,'' Williams' lawyer, David Cornwell, said in a statement e-mailed to The Associated Press on Thursday. The 1998 Heisman Trophy winner needed to let the league know by Thursday so he could be moved from the retired list to the suspended list by the deadline. He would have served the suspension for the Miami Dolphins' final four games, starting Dec. 12 at Denver. ``David Cornwell informed our office that Ricky Williams has declined to accept the terms of his reinstatement,'' NFL spokesman Greg Aiello said. Dolphins spokesman Harvey Greene wouldn't comment, saying the matter is between Williams and the NFL. Williams, 27, stunned his team by retiring shortly before Miami opened training camp in July. The Dolphins filed a lawsuit in federal court against the running back, seeking the $8.6 million an arbitrator ruled he owes the team for breaching his contract. Williams is fighting the decision. He is now enrolled in a 17-month course at the California College of Ayurveda in Grass Valley, Calif., studying holistic medicine. The talks to allow Williams back into the league involved a promise to return to the field next season and to re-enter the NFL drug program immediately, including being tested on a regular basis. ``The NFL sought assurances that Ricky is indeed committed to playing,'' Cornwell said. Williams gave up the $5 million he would have earned this season, which would have been his sixth in the NFL, amid reports he faced suspension for substance abuse. He rushed for 3,225 yards in two seasons with the Dolphins, including a league-leading 1,853 yards in 2002. Miami acquired him from New Orleans after the 2001 season. But without Williams, the Dolphins have gone into a tailspin. They're 2-9 and will finish with a losing record for the first time since 1988. Williams has social-anxiety disorder and was a spokesman for an anti-depressant. He said marijuana helped him after he stopped using the anti-depressant. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kkktookmybabyaway 0 Report post Posted December 2, 2004 Why any team would take him now is beyond me... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dr. Tom 0 Report post Posted December 2, 2004 He'd better hope holisitc medicine pays *really* well... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
teke184 0 Report post Posted December 3, 2004 Yet another reason why I love the Saints GM who traded Ricky's dumb ass. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Mosaicv2 Report post Posted December 3, 2004 Ricky Williams should stay retired... by the way, I'M BACK! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
