The Mandarin 0 Report post Posted November 27, 2004 Who do you think ment the most to ECW? Not based on workrate or favoritism. 1) Raven 2) Tommy Dreamer 3) Shane Douglas 4) Cactus Jack 5) Taz 6) Rob Van Dam 7) Sabu 8) The Sandman 9) Mikey Whipwreck 10) Mike Awesome 11) Terry Funk 12) Buh Buh Ray Dudley 13) D-Von Dudley 14) Jerry Lynn 15) Bam Bam Bigelow 16) Rhino 17) Steve Corino 18) Chris Candido 19) 911 20) Lance Storm Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hunter's Torn Quad 0 Report post Posted November 27, 2004 Where are Public Enemy ? They are Top 5 material, at least. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
natey2k4 0 Report post Posted November 27, 2004 Chris Chetti and Nova would of made my list. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nightfall 0 Report post Posted November 27, 2004 Where's Stevie Richards? And even though he wasn't a major player, there was something about Super Crazy that I always loved. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MikeJordan23 0 Report post Posted November 27, 2004 Not work-rate wise? 1) Tommy Dreamer 2) Sabu 3) Raven 4) Al Snow 5)Shane Douglas 6) RVD 7) TAZ 8) The Sandman 9) The Dudley's 10) Public Enemy 11) Mick Foley 12) The Eliminators 13) New Jack 14) Francine/Beulah 15) Stevie Richards 16) Eddy Guerrero 17) Jerry Lynn 18) Terry Funk 19) Mickey Whipreck 20) Dean Malenko Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EVIL~! alkeiper 0 Report post Posted November 27, 2004 Let's see... 1. Raven ECW's top heel for a long period of time. Generally the greatest and most enduring character ECW produced. 2. Sabu People forget that back in 1994, Sabu was the biggest name in indy wrestling history, and could almost match any wrestler in the big 2 in terms of name value. His frequent trips to ECW contributed greatly to their popularity, and one could argue that his style set the tone for ECW's in ring product. 3. Terry Funk Added a great deal of prestige to ECW. 4. Rob Van Dam Probably the most popular wrestler in ECW history. Still popular today despite not being given much of a chance post-ECW. 5. Tommy Dreamer The face of ECW. 6. The Dudley Boys 7. Taz 8. Shane Douglas 9. Cactus Jack 10. The Sandman 11. The Public Enemy 12. Mikey Whipwreck 13. Eddie Guerrero/Dean Malenko (Dual entry. Their matches added more to ECW beyond simply a blood and guts promotion. Their names are forever linked as rivals because of their series in 1995.) 14. Al Snow 15. Rhino 16. 911 17. Steve Corino 18. Jerry Lynn 19. Rey Misterio Jr. 20. The Eliminators Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Dynamite Kido Report post Posted November 28, 2004 1. Raven -No doubt about it.....ECW's greatest character ever. He was involved in more major angles that were "first's" in professional wrestling than any other ECW wrestler EVER. 2. Terry Funk -Terry Funk gave ECW a special feeling like no other wrestler could. Added legitimacy to ECW as well. 3. Tommy Dreamer -Tommy Dreamer became the face of ECW after Raven and Funk were both gone. He personified everything that ECW was SUPPOST to be and WON the respect of the ECW crowds in a way that nobody expected. 4. Sabu -Sabu was a BIG reason why the ECW grew the way it did. He was the guy that everyone heard of through magazines and word of mouth and EVERYONE wanted to see him if they already hadn't. 5. Rob Van Dam -His popularity still lasts today even though he's been pretty much buried by the WWE simply because of the time he had spent in ECW. He was the guy that made the ECW TV title mean more than the ECW World Title during his 23 month reign that was broken when he had to forfiet the title due to injury. He was the ultimate ECW babyface and was the most popular wrestler they had in their last 2/3 years in existance. 6. Public Enemy -This is the tag team that basically showed the world what a ECW tag team SHOULD look like. Rock was always a underrated worker and with partner Johnny Grunde took ECW by storm. They are hands down the best ECW tag team of all time as far as influence goes. People would never have gone through table on the consistant basis that they did if the Public Enemy were never on the scene. 7. Shane Douglas -"The Franchise" was one of the most entertaining people in wrestling during his stay in ECW. He was the most open on the mic's and basically would always have something to say that at least was worth listening to. Without his throwing down of the NWA title and claiming himself the ECW champion............there would NEVER have been an ECW. 8. The Dudley Boyz -These guys personified everything a heel should be like no other team I've ever seen before or after. They could get the "smart" fans going against them before they even realized they were "marking out". 9. The Sandman -The guy was ECW's ICON. He WAS ECW before people even knew what that meant. Plus original gimmick was a great idea, especially because they knew there was no other wrestling company that would have the balls to recreate this gimmick. 10. Cactus Jack -Recently on the Rise and Fall of ECW DVD, Paul Heyman mentioned that Jack's "Anti-hardcore" promos were the best promos EVER in pro wrestling. I would say they are close and left a lasting impression enough to put him in my top 10 regardless. 11. Mikey Whipwreak 12. Taz 13. Eddie Guerrero/Dean Malenko 14. Stevie Richards 15. Women of ECW 16. New Jack 17. Bam Bam Bigelow 18. Jerry Lynn 19. The Eliminators 20. Tanaka/Awesome Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
geniusMoment 0 Report post Posted November 28, 2004 I think everyone is overrating the Dudley's importance to ECW. They were viewed as nothing goofs until mid 97. They were squashed by the Eliminators at the first ppv for a reason. The Public Enemy, Gangstas, Eliminators and the Impact Players were all viewed as higher on the food chain by the company and fans. The only time the Dudley's were considered a main event act was during the bad times of 98 and 99. Even then, they were not viewed as the big acts. The Public Enemy, Gangstas and Eliminators were much more important in building ECW, and the Impact Players were the team that then ran with it. Paul did not even really want the Dudleys anymore, they would have stayed for much less money. They were a tired act, and were clogging up the card. To rate the Dudleys ahead of people like The Sandman, Taz and Shane Douglas in terms of importance is just ludicrous. If some of you are getting your info from the ECW dvd, trust me, the Dudleys are way too hyped in that production. They were viewed by most fans going to the shows as Balls and Axl. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest bort Report post Posted November 28, 2004 1.Terry Funk 2.Raven 3.Sabu 4.Taz 5.Dreamer 6.Sandman 7.Public Enemy 8.Shane Douglas 9.Cactus Jack 10. Dudleys 11.RVD 12. Beulah 13. Bill Alshponso (spelling?) 14. New Jack 15. BWO 16. Jerry Lynn 17. Super Crazy 18. Rhino 19. Jerry Lynn 20. The Rottens Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest KINGOFTHEWORLD Report post Posted November 28, 2004 Why isn't the late, great "HotStuff" Eddie Gilbert on that list??? He along w/ Tod Gordon are the ones who truely started ECW, in early 1993. If it wasn't for Eddie Gilbert, Paul Heyman wouldn't even have a job in wrestling! From time Paul Heyman started in Memphis all the way to ECW is thanks to Gilbert's influence! To bad Eddie Gilbert will never get the true credit for helping put ECW on the map! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EVIL~! alkeiper 0 Report post Posted November 28, 2004 I considered Gilbert, but I have limited knowledge of the origins, and I wasn't sure how much of a hand he had, or if he was just a popular star brought to main event cards. ECW had a TON of guys like that in the early days, when cards featured stars such as Abdullah the Butcher, Stan Hansen, Kevin Sullivan, the Original Sheik, and King Kong Bundy. Ultimately, I simple felt he wasn't around long enough. I think everyone is overrating the Dudley's importance to ECW. They were viewed as nothing goofs until mid 97. They were squashed by the Eliminators at the first ppv for a reason. The Public Enemy, Gangstas, Eliminators and the Impact Players were all viewed as higher on the food chain by the company and fans. The only time the Dudley's were considered a main event act was during the bad times of 98 and 99. Even then, they were not viewed as the big acts. The Public Enemy, Gangstas and Eliminators were much more important in building ECW, and the Impact Players were the team that then ran with it. Paul did not even really want the Dudleys anymore, they would have stayed for much less money. They were a tired act, and were clogging up the card. To rate the Dudleys ahead of people like The Sandman, Taz and Shane Douglas in terms of importance is just ludicrous. If some of you are getting your info from the ECW dvd, trust me, the Dudleys are way too hyped in that production. They were viewed by most fans going to the shows as Balls and Axl. Probably because like Raven, the Dudley Boys have displayed staying power that lasts beyond ECW. The Public Enemy were useless away from ECW. Just my opinion, and that comes without having seen the dvd. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest dreamer420 Report post Posted November 28, 2004 1. Tommy Dreamer 2. Raven 3. Sandman 4. Sabu 5. Cactus Jack 6. Mikey Whipwreck 7. Rob Van Dam 8. Taz 9. Shane Douglas 10. Jerry Lynn 11. Little Guido 12. Lance Storm 13. Bam Bam Bigelow 14. Masato Tanaka 15. Mike Awesome 16. Yoshihiro Tajiri 17. Rhino 18. Steve Corino 19 D-Von Dudley 20. Buh Buh Ray Dudley Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Rrrsh Report post Posted November 28, 2004 Raven Sabu Funk RVD Dreamer Cactus Taz P.E. Sandman Shane Douglas 911 PitBulls Mikey Whipreck Elimiantors Dudleyz Stevie Richards Benoit/Jericho Rey/Juvi/Phycosis Impact Players Tanaka/Awesome Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Elbarto997 0 Report post Posted November 28, 2004 What about New Jack, this guy is extreme, and he should be on the list, no? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MikeJordan23 0 Report post Posted November 28, 2004 I don't see how Al Snow isn't high on everybody's list. He was at one time BY FAR the most popular wrestler in ECW history. I mean he had entire arenas going crazy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Rrrsh Report post Posted November 28, 2004 I don't see how Al Snow isn't high on everybody's list. He was at one time BY FAR the most popular wrestler in ECW history. I mean he had entire arenas going crazy. I considered him, but I dont remember any of his angles or matches, I just rememebr him over. Like Roadkill. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Rrrsh Report post Posted November 28, 2004 What about New Jack, this guy is extreme, and he should be on the list, no? To me, he represents everything wrong with ECW. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Dynamite Kido Report post Posted November 29, 2004 I don't see how Al Snow isn't high on everybody's list. He was at one time BY FAR the most popular wrestler in ECW history. I mean he had entire arenas going crazy. I would say I considered Snow as well. I only remember his two stints with the company though as being fairly short. His first stint was a "The Snowman" Al Snow where the only thing I really remember him doing is having a great match with Chris Benoit. His second stint was with the "Head" gimmick, and it wasn't for very long as well. If this was a top 40 list...........he probably would make it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
geniusMoment 0 Report post Posted November 29, 2004 I considered Gilbert, but I have limited knowledge of the origins, and I wasn't sure how much of a hand he had, or if he was just a popular star brought to main event cards. ECW had a TON of guys like that in the early days, when cards featured stars such as Abdullah the Butcher, Stan Hansen, Kevin Sullivan, the Original Sheik, and King Kong Bundy. Ultimately, I simple felt he wasn't around long enough. I think everyone is overrating the Dudley's importance to ECW. They were viewed as nothing goofs until mid 97. They were squashed by the Eliminators at the first ppv for a reason. The Public Enemy, Gangstas, Eliminators and the Impact Players were all viewed as higher on the food chain by the company and fans. The only time the Dudley's were considered a main event act was during the bad times of 98 and 99. Even then, they were not viewed as the big acts. The Public Enemy, Gangstas and Eliminators were much more important in building ECW, and the Impact Players were the team that then ran with it. Paul did not even really want the Dudleys anymore, they would have stayed for much less money. They were a tired act, and were clogging up the card. To rate the Dudleys ahead of people like The Sandman, Taz and Shane Douglas in terms of importance is just ludicrous. If some of you are getting your info from the ECW dvd, trust me, the Dudleys are way too hyped in that production. They were viewed by most fans going to the shows as Balls and Axl. Probably because like Raven, the Dudley Boys have displayed staying power that lasts beyond ECW. The Public Enemy were useless away from ECW. Just my opinion, and that comes without having seen the dvd. Then people are not answering the question properly. The question was not, which wrestlers went on to succeed after leaving ECW. Just in terms of drawing fans, and how they were viewed, no way were the Dudleys ahead of many of the people that are listed below them on most of the lists. In terms of importance to ECW, not anywhere else, to rate PE below the Dudleys is insane. I remember watching PE at 3 in morning on Friday night here in Cincy, my parents should be shot for letting an eleven year old watch ECW. But, 10 years later I have not killed anyone so I guess it all worked out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
King Cucaracha 0 Report post Posted November 29, 2004 If you're ranking the Dudleys, then put in the entire clan. As for importance, they deserve ranking. Towards the latter days of ECW The Dudleys were making big stories. The 3-D became the number on tag finisher in the world. They were involved in the first flaming tables incidents (or, at least I think the first)...broke Beulah's neck. Won the Tag Titles a large number of times. They were credited with breaking up the Gangstas, The Eliminators and driving off The PE. So they deserve a ranking. Hell, if you ask me then Bubba's plancha warrants ranking on it's own. Kido- Snow's run with the Head was gimmick was short, but he was UBER over...to the point that he got boosted to the main event within a couple of months on crowd reactions alone. Not sure how 'influencial' to ECW he was, but the run was awesome. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites