What was the feud going into these matches?

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What was the feud/storyline/angle going into these matches?

 

-Hogan/T vs. Piper/Orndorff, Wrestlemania 1-

-Hogan vs. Bundy, Wrestlemania 2

-Funks vs. Santana/JYD, Wrestlemania 2

-Hogan vs. Andre, Wrestlemania 3

-Hart Foundation and Danny Davis vs. British Bulldogs and Tito Santana, Wrestlemania 3

-Ricky Steamboat vs. Rick Rude, Royal Rumble 88 (is this match any good?)

-Jake Roberts vs. Hercules, Summerslam 88

-Jake Roberts vs. Andre, Wrestlemania 5

-Rick Rude vs. Ultimate Warrior, Wrestlemania 5

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-Hogan vs. Andre, Wrestlemania 3: Andre gets jealous of Hogan's success, turns on him by hiring manager Bobby Heenan and challenges Hogan for the biggest money match in recorded history.

 

-Hart Foundation and Danny Davis vs. British Bulldogs and Tito Santana, Wrestlemania 3: Danny Davis screwed the faces out of titles, and so they want sweet sweet revenge.

 

-Jake Roberts vs. Andre, Wrestlemania 5: Andre was afraid of snakes.

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Was there an actual moment where Andre turned on Hogan, or did it happen slowly? How did the setup for that main event go down?

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The Andre moment was on one of the talk show segments...I think The Body Shop, not sure. Andre pretty much announces he's with Heenan then, rips off Hogan's chain and walks off laughing. Or something...I haven't watched that show in ages.

 

 

-Hogan vs. Bundy, Wrestlemania 2: Hogan got attacked by Bundy prior to Mania, held in the corner by two of Heenan's other Family members while Bundy avalanched Hogan in the corner, screwing up his ribs.

 

-Rick Rude vs. Ultimate Warrior, Wrestlemania 5: This had been going for a while. They had the Posedown Challenge at the Royal Rumble, where Rude attacked Warrior. Not sure if the feud started over who had the best body or not though.

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To elaborate on the Hogan/Andre feud . . . Hogan gets a big ol trophy for his 3rd Anniversary as WWF Champion on Piper's Pit. Andre comes out as gives him a firm handshake and says "3 Years to be a champion is a long time" and walks off. Piper sells it like a shoot but plays it off and asks to be cut off the air while murmuring w/ Hogan about what happened.

 

Next week on PP, Andre gets a smaller trophy and Hogan barges in just as Andre is about to speak and starts rambling about Andre's virtues. Andre walks off much to the confusement of Piper/Hogan.

 

Next week, Ventura compares the size of the 2 trophies and challenges Piper to bring Hogan the next week if Ventura can bring Andre. Challenge accepted.

 

Next week, Andre comes out w/ Heenan, challenges him to a WM3 title match, and rips off Hogan's shirt/cross. Andre leaves and Hogan accepts.

 

On the 3/1987 SNME, they are in a battle royal together when w/ the help of the distraction of Paul Orndorff, Andre sneaks up behind Hogan, headbutts him, and chucks him out. Moments later, everyone in the ring roll Andre over the top rope and Hercules would eventually win the BR.

 

If you find it on ebay for a reasonable price, Coliseum's Brains Behind the Brawn has an excellent 15 minute-ish synposis on the Hogan/Andre feud as does Hulkamania 3.

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No feud for Jake/Hercules SS88 other than Herc being a Heenan family member since Jake was having his heated feud w/ Rick Rude at the time that was going around the horn.

 

As for Funks vs. Santana/JYD at Wrestlemania 2, JYD had a match w/ Terry Funk. When Funk was in trouble, Hoss debuted (actually acknowledged as Dory by Vince) and double teamed JYD. During the SNME rematch, Jimmy Hart interfered and Funk picked up a pinfall victory. Hart was then branded by JYD. Both of these matches are on CV's Grudge Matches. I believe at this time, JYD/Santana were on-and-off tag partners so they teamed up at WM2 to even the odds against the dastardly Funks . . . JYD was pinned again.

 

As for Hogan vs. Bundy at Wrestlemania 2, Bundy challenged Hogan to a title match on the 3/1986 SNME and then squashed Steve Gatorwolf. Fuji came down w/ "Asian Flu" and could not accomany Muraco for his title match w/ Hogan so Heenan was allowed to take his place. W/ Muraco in trouble, Bundy ran in and proceeded to give Hogan several Avalances and big splashes. This sent Hogan to the hospital in kayfabe terms but obviously recovered in plenty of time to beat Bundy at WM2.

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Was there an actual moment where Andre turned on Hogan, or did it happen slowly? How did the setup for that main event go down?

There's an old WWF video called Hulkamania 3 that showed all the angles that led up to it.

 

In January of '87 Hogan goes on Piper's pit (Hogan was a face by this time), gets honered by Jack Tunney for being Champion for 3 years, and has a big trophy presented to him. Andre shows up since he's Hogan's friend and when Piper asks him for comment he just says "three years to be a champion is a long time."

 

The next week Jack Tunney honers Andre for going undefeated for 15 years (that was a load of crap, but it's how Vince wanted it) and gives him a trophy that's noticably smaller than the one Hogan got the week before. As Andre starts his comments Hogan shows up and goes on about how it's about time Andre got honered and keeps on going on for a minute basically hogging Andre's spotlight. When Hogan finishes talking he notices that Andre has walked out.

 

Then on Piper's pit they have a face off where Andre show's up with Heenen. Bobby says Hogan has been ducking Andre and laughing at him behind his back for years. Andre then challenges him for the title at Wrestlemania. Hogan stars blubbering about how they're friends and it's not happening, so Andre rips the shirt and crusifix off of Hogan to prove he's serious.

 

Jake the Snake vs Hercules from Summerslam '88 had no feud. Jake was feuding with Rude and they just needed an excuse for Jake to be there so hje could brawl with Rude.

 

Rude vs Steamboat had no fued, it was just a match put on the show.

 

 

Edit: While I was writing this, MillenniumMan beat me to the punch

Edited December 11, 2004 by MDH257

[Guest natholy]

To elaborate on the Hogan/Andre feud . . . Hogan gets a big ol trophy for his 3rd Anniversary as WWF Champion on Piper's Pit. Andre comes out as gives him a firm handshake and says "3 Years to be a champion is a long time" and walks off. Piper sells it like a shoot but plays it off and asks to be cut off the air while murmuring w/ Hogan about what happened.

 

Next week on PP, Andre gets a smaller trophy and Hogan barges in just as Andre is about to speak and starts rambling about Andre's virtues. Andre walks off much to the confusement of Piper/Hogan.

 

Next week, Ventura compares the size of the 2 trophies and challenges Piper to bring Hogan the next week if Ventura can bring Andre. Challenge accepted.

 

Next week, Andre comes out w/ Heenan, challenges him to a WM3 title match, and rips off Hogan's shirt/cross. Andre leaves and Hogan accepts.

 

On the 3/1987 SNME, they are in a battle royal together when w/ the help of the distraction of Paul Orndorff, Andre sneaks up behind Hogan, headbutts him, and chucks him out. Moments later, everyone in the ring roll Andre over the top rope and Hercules would eventually win the BR.

 

If you find it on ebay for a reasonable price, Coliseum's Brains Behind the Brawn has an excellent 15 minute-ish synposis on the Hogan/Andre feud as does Hulkamania 3.

Damn you got a great memory, mate I started recalling all that TV after reading that.

The best part was Heenan was talking all the time for Andre as well during interviews on TV even Gene had a go at it and got quickly shut down by the Brain..

 

 

Nate Holynski

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^^^ Well, I cheated. I got all that from the CVs I have as I didn't get into wrestling until late 1988-early 1989. Heenan was indeed perfect for Andre as he did all the talking also for the Hogan/Andre contract signing and brought forth Hogan's best acting (snicker snicker)

 

"Sign it if you're gonna sign it! Grrrrrr!"

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How about when after Andre signs it. He starts talking to Hogan in french and Hogan yells:

"SPEAK ENGLISH WHEN YOU TALK TO ME MAN!"

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Jake Roberts vs. Andre --- Wrestlemania 5

 

During the 10/88 SNME, Roberts had Rude obliterated when Heenan called for backup and it was Andre the Giant. In desperation, Roberts grabbed the snake and Andre froze like a deer in the headlights. He was screaming "I DON'T LIKE THAT BOBBY! BOBBY!!!" He eventually had some sort of "heart failure" and collapsed on the mat while Jake and the fans celebrated.

 

The Snake would help to cost Andre the WWF Title the next month on SNME. At SurSer 88, Andre was DQed for strangling Roberts past the 5 count. Jake was then quickly pinned by Hennig. At RR89, Andre chucked Jake out a little over 2 minutes after making his entrance. Roberts returned w/ Damien and caused Andre to eliminate himself.

 

The whole feud was based on Andre being physically superior to Roberts w/ The Snake having no prayer . . . unless he got a hold of Damien . . . much like the WMV match played out.

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Hart Foundation and Danny Davis vs. British Bulldogs and Tito Santana --- Wrestlemania 3

 

On 2/86, Danny Davis was the referee when Savage clonked Santana w/ brass knucks and won the IC Title in Boston. Later in the year, Davis was reffing in a very shady manner. Faces would walk out of Danny Davis matches to protest his horrendous officiating. The climax of this is when he blatantly cost the British Bulldogs the Tag Titles against the Hart Foundation on SuperStars on 1/87 by not even being in the ring when DBS would have his opponent pinned.

 

Davis was in cahoots w/ the Harts and would be suspended for life from refereeing by Jack Tunney on a later ep of SuperStars. He'd later officially join the Hart Foundation as the 6-Man tag match for WMIII was all set.

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How about when after Andre signs it. He starts talking to Hogan in french and Hogan yells:

"SPEAK ENGLISH WHEN YOU TALK TO ME MAN!"

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Great stuff guys...here are a few more:

 

-Savage vs. Warrior, Summerslam 92. I know the stuff with Flair going in, where they teased he was on one guy's team. How exactly did they do that? How did the angle start? How was it that Warrior got the title shot?

 

-Hogan/Taker, Survivor Series 91. How was this set up? Was it a huge shock to people at the time when Taker actually won?

 

-Jake Roberts vs. Ted Dibiase, Wrestlemania 6

 

-Bad News Brown vs. Roddy Piper, Wrestlemania 6

 

-Hogan vs. Earthquake, Summerslam 90

 

-Perfect vs. Bret, Summerslam 91

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-Jake Roberts vs. Ted Dibiase, Wrestlemania 6

 

-Hogan vs. Earthquake, Summerslam 90

about a month after WM5, there was a scheduled bout with Jake & DiBiase, but DiBiase said he had the flu, and let Virgil take his place. After the bout I believe Jake was attacked by DiBiase who clearly didn't have flu. This was the alleged reason for Jake's absence (he was still on TV about a month after this, they decided to use this as why he was off TV as I think he was arrested for attacking a fan or something?) DiBiase would then on TV always brag about putting Jake out of action and they would even do a Get Well soon address for Jake.

I'm not exactly sure what happened for the rest of the feud as I haven't seen it but I believe it was also aprt of the reason the Big Boss Man turned face...

 

For Quake/Hogan, Earthquake attacked Hogan on Brother Love with several of those sit down splashes. Hogan was then off TV about 3 months and they did the same type fo deal with Get Well soon addresses etc. I believe actually during this time Hogan was filming Surburban Commando. (or another move maybe?)

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-Savage vs. Warrior, Summerslam 92. I know the stuff with Flair going in, where they teased he was on one guy's team. How exactly did they do that? How did the angle start? How was it that Warrior got the title shot?

They said on TV that they would announce the SS main event on tv the next week. Heenen on commentary went about assuming that Flair was getting the shot since his fued with Randy was still going on. The next week they announce that the Ultimate Warrior is the #1 contender and is getting the shot.

 

It starts off with it being billed a face vs. face match.

 

Then few weeks later Savage is getting interviewed on tv, Flair comes out and tells him that The Warrior has asked Mr. Pefect (Flair's manager) to be in his corner at SummerSlam.

Warrior is interviewed the next week, Mean Gene ask him if it's true. Before Warrior can answer, Perfect shows up and tells him that Savage has now made him a counter offer to be in his corner and it's now a bidding war.

 

So until Summerslam Savage and Warrior both deny that Perfect will be with them. Flair, Perfect, and Bobby all insist secret negotiations are taking place and the whole run up to the match is built around "Who's corner will Mr. Perfect be in?".

 

Of coruse it was all a plot to screw both Savage and Warrior over and get them all angry, paranoid, and to mess with their minds.

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-Bad News Brown vs. Roddy Piper, Wrestlemania 6

 

-Perfect vs. Bret, Summerslam 91

Piper eliminated Bad News from the Royal Rumble, and an angry Bad News eliminated Piper illegally. They brawled to the back. A few weeks later on Wrestling Challenge, Brown made a rude comment about Piper's kilt, getting as far as "Maybe if you shaved those bony legs of yours" before Piper jumped off the stage, leading to another brawl.

 

I don't remember any hype for Perfect-Bret at all aside from Coach John Tolos doing some scouting during Hart's matches.

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Great stuff guys...here are a few more:

 

-Savage vs. Warrior, Summerslam 92. I know the stuff with Flair going in, where they teased he was on one guy's team. How exactly did they do that? How did the angle start? How was it that Warrior got the title shot?

 

-Hogan/Taker, Survivor Series 91. How was this set up? Was it a huge shock to people at the time when Taker actually won?

 

-Jake Roberts vs. Ted Dibiase, Wrestlemania 6

 

-Bad News Brown vs. Roddy Piper, Wrestlemania 6

 

-Hogan vs. Earthquake, Summerslam 90

 

-Perfect vs. Bret, Summerslam 91

Taker was just announced one week on superstars as the #1 contender for hogan. no real buildup prior. but on the funeral parlor, ric flair and hogan had a confrontation and taker attacked hogan (jumping out from a coffin) ripping off his cross (yes that seemed to happen alot- what was hogan? a vampire slayer or somethin?)

 

Don't know if his win was a shock but it was kinda to me at the time as a little kid (though I was afraid that Taker could beat hogan since he was all invinceable)

 

 

Roberts was out of action most of 89 with a neck injury I think.

 

Bossman turned face during this feud. Wrestleline had a series of columns on bossmans career when he died and from this I found out On tv, Bossman ran out and attacked jake, stealing the million dollar belt back. when he went back to the locker room. he gave it to Dibiase who then tried to hand Bossman some cash for a dead well down, Bossman freaked out saying "he doesnt take bribes" (but apprantly he does beat up people for free?) and basically turned f ace just like that. He was to face akeem at wm 6 but Dibiase hid under the ring after his match with jake and attacked bossman. Bossman went on to win the match. But he never did feud with Ted(who himself went on to feud with Dusty Rhodes and "buy" Saphhire)

 

Hogan vs Quake.

 

After wm 6, on the brother love show, Quake sneak attacked Hogan and gave him his quake BUTT frop splash severely injuring him (this was done to give Hogan time off to film Suburban Commando I believe) They had a whole get well hulk campaign on tv with an address to send cards and junk. soon they announced hogans return and the match at SS Quake later attacked Hogans friend Tugboat who was supposed to be in his corner for slam. so hogan chose Bossman to replace him instead. The match came, and Hogan won by countout surprisngly (quake himself his admitted this was because hogan wanted to continue the feud for awhile)

 

Bad news vs Piper. They eliminated each other from the royal rumble and brawled to the back so bad blood was between them. It didnt help when Piper painted half his body black for the wm 6 match Nothing like a little racism to spice up a feud

 

Perfect Vs Bret had no real buildup as I recall. Bret was getting a signles push after the dissolving of the hart foundation. Perfect had been defending aganisnt random challengers and alot against the Bulldog. so when Bret got the title match it was a big surprise to alot (unless you were reading the observer back then I dont know)

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-Hogan/Taker, Survivor Series 91. How was this set up? Was it a huge shock to people at the time when Taker actually won?

The Undertaker had been undefeated on TV since his debut (since he lost to the Ultimate Warrior and Sid Justice at house shows), but the one man he hadn't beaten was the WWF champion, "the immortal" Hulk Hogan. Taker was announced as the #1 contender to the title and the match was billed as Hogan's "gravest challenge." The only build up I can remember w/ any interaction between the two was on the Funeral Parlor where Hogan was a guest, Flair confronted him and Taker attacked him from behind. I was actually pretty shocked at the time that Taker won cause I was an 8 year old mark and I didn't think Taker would get the title that quickly into his career, although I was wondering in the time leading up to the event how Hogan could actually put Taker down.

 

 

-Bad News Brown vs. Roddy Piper, Wrestlemania 6

Piper eliminated Bad News from the Royal Rumble in '90. Bad News pulled Piper out from behind and they fought all the way to the back. For the next few months leading up to WM, they insulted each other back and forth on interview segments, even crashing each other's interviews and continuing their RR brawl. The match at WM was a train wreck that ended in a double countout. Piper had his body painted half black.

 

-Perfect vs. Bret, Summerslam 91

This was Hart's, fresh off the Hart Foundation break up, first big singles feud. He was named the #1 contender to the IC title and it was billed as the excellence of execution versus perfection. The build up was basically the same as the usual early 90s feuds with simple interview segments. Heenan would step down as Perfect's manager just after WM7 and The Coach (I can't remember his real name, not Jonathan Coachman) would take over.

[Guest HTQ's Personal Bitch]

-Bad News Brown vs. Roddy Piper, Wrestlemania 6

 

-Perfect vs. Bret, Summerslam 91

Piper eliminated Bad News from the Royal Rumble, and an angry Bad News eliminated Piper illegally. They brawled to the back. A few weeks later on Wrestling Challenge, Brown made a rude comment about Piper's kilt, getting as far as "Maybe if you shaved those bony legs of yours" before Piper jumped off the stage, leading to another brawl.

Reminds me how Piper had three consecutive PPV appearences where he brawled all the way to the back: Survivor Series 89 (with Rude), Royal Rumble 90 (w/ Brown), and WM6 (again w/ Brown).

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The Coach's real name was John Tolos.

[Guest natholy]

The Coach's real name was John Tolos.

The Golden Greek John Tolos

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Was there anything to Taker/Snuka at WM7? Was there any real feud to Bret Hart vs. Diesel at RR95? The 2/3 falls match at Rumble 89?

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Was there anything to Taker/Snuka at WM7?

There was no feud for Undertaker-Snuka. They just wanted Undertaker to squash someone and they fed Snuka to him.

 

Was there any real feud to Bret Hart vs. Diesel at RR95?

After he beat Backlund for the title, Diesel said Bret could have a title shot as soon as he (Bret) was healthy. Bret wanted his title shot right away (Bret had been injured by being in Backlund's chicken wing for half an hour at Survivor Series '94).

 

The 2/3 falls match at Rumble 89?

Duggan was feuding with Bravo for reasons I don't remember, I guess he didn't like Frenchy Martin's "USA is not OK" sign.

The Harts were feuding with the Rougues. The Harts fired Jimmy Hart and turned face. Jimmy went on tv and said that he still had Bret and Neidhart under contract and got a cut of their paycheck no matter what. Jimmy then introduced the Fabulous Rougues as his new team and announced that he was giving his cut of Bret and Neidhart's money to the Rougues.

 

They just made the match at Royal Rumble by booking the faces vs. the heels.

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-Perfect vs. Bret, Summerslam 91

This was Hart's, fresh off the Hart Foundation break up, first big singles feud. He was named the #1 contender to the IC title and it was billed as the excellence of execution versus perfection. The build up was basically the same as the usual early 90s feuds with simple interview segments. Heenan would step down as Perfect's manager just after WM7 and The Coach (I can't remember his real name, not Jonathan Coachman) would take over.

Bret also involved himself in a Perfect / Bulldog IC title match, which I believed aired on Prime Time. Bret got Davey Boy DQed for interfering ... the referee was knocked out moments earlier when Coach interfered on behalf of his man.

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Bumping an old thread that I liked...

 

What was the buildup to Savage/Steamboat at WM3? I know the stuff with the ring bell, which happened on a SNME (or not?). Was there anything else to the feud leading into Mania?

 

Was there any story behind the Hogan/Terry Funk match from SNME #4 in December of 1985?

 

How about the Hogan/Orndorff SNME cage match in December of 1986?

 

How about Hogan vs. Savage in February of 1990 with Buster Douglas as ref?

[Guest TheDon]

I could have sworn that Mike Tyson was supposed to be the ref at Hogan vrs Savage but since he lost they replaced him with Buster Douglas.

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What led to Warrior vs Hogan at WM6? The first WWF show I ever watched was WM6, so I would like to know how the match came about, and if there were any segments, matches, that built it up?

[Guest MikeSC]

To elaborate on the Hogan/Andre feud . . . Hogan gets a big ol trophy for his 3rd Anniversary as WWF Champion on Piper's Pit. Andre comes out as gives him a firm handshake and says "3 Years to be a champion is a long time" and walks off. Piper sells it like a shoot but plays it off and asks to be cut off the air while murmuring w/ Hogan about what happened.

 

Next week on PP, Andre gets a smaller trophy and Hogan barges in just as Andre is about to speak and starts rambling about Andre's virtues. Andre walks off much to the confusement of Piper/Hogan.

 

Next week, Ventura compares the size of the 2 trophies and challenges Piper to bring Hogan the next week if Ventura can bring Andre. Challenge accepted.

 

Next week, Andre comes out w/ Heenan, challenges him to a WM3 title match, and rips off Hogan's shirt/cross. Andre leaves and Hogan accepts.

 

On the 3/1987 SNME, they are in a battle royal together when w/ the help of the distraction of Paul Orndorff, Andre sneaks up behind Hogan, headbutts him, and chucks him out. Moments later, everyone in the ring roll Andre over the top rope and Hercules would eventually win the BR.

 

If you find it on ebay for a reasonable price, Coliseum's Brains Behind the Brawn has an excellent 15 minute-ish synposis on the Hogan/Andre feud as does Hulkamania 3.

Isn't it astonishing how many feuds had Hogan as the face in spite of him acting like a total prick?

-=Mike

[Guest MikeSC]

Bumping an old thread that I liked...

 

What was the buildup to Savage/Steamboat at WM3? I know the stuff with the ring bell, which happened on a SNME (or not?). Was there anything else to the feud leading into Mania?

 

Was there any story behind the Hogan/Terry Funk match from SNME #4 in December of 1985?

 

How about the Hogan/Orndorff SNME cage match in December of 1986?

 

How about Hogan vs. Savage in February of 1990 with Buster Douglas as ref?

Well, after Savage "crushed" Steamboat's larynx on one of their syndicated shows (and, Jesus, did Steamboat sell that like a mutha), he started going through rehab (which led to the worst acting I've ever seen). Savage then segued into a mini-program with George Steele and Steamboat always tried to help Steele to get revenge on Savage for what he did to him.

 

And I think Terry Funk hit Hulk Hogan with a branding iron which led to their SNME match. I know they showed a video of some Terry Funk assault, but I think I sold my copy of that show years back.

-=Mike