Jump to content
TSM Forums
Sign in to follow this  
Damaramu

For everyone here that doesn't believe in Heaven..

Recommended Posts

Ok so I just found out there's a very good possibility my grandpa may die in the next couple of days. While this upset me a lot I had to sit back and think and I realized that I was kind of scared of death myself.

 

I mean I don't believe in God. I don't believe in Heaven and Hell. And I realize that one day I'm going to die and I have no clue what's going to happen to me after that. And that's kind of scary. Because you never know when your number is up. It could happen at anytime.

 

So for the people here that don't believe in Heaven and Hell....what do you think will happen to us when it all ends?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

No he won't.

He's got an aneurysm that's about 7.5 centimeters long. It hasn't burst yet but if he does anything stressful it will and it'll kill him.

But he's going to the hospital to get surgery to remove it. The problem is they don't usually operate on anything over 5 centimeters.

They could either kill him, give him a stroke, damage his brain, paralyze him, or fix him completely. But there's a very small chance he'll be fixed completely.

 

The thing that upsets me the most is that my Grandpa is the toughest guy on know and the guy I respect the most. Since I hate my father and step-father I look up to my Grandpa.

The guy never complains, he always gets the job done and he's always been responsible.

I've never seen him get scared of anything and for once he's scared of what's going to happen. And that scares me.

I mean this is the guy that had a heart attack on the side of the road while driving a stick shift and drove himself to the hospital for treatment.

I figured nothing would ever kill him.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

See I just can't fathom nothing! I just can't fathom the end of concious thought. That's what I don't like about the never ending blackness theory. Then again I don't think any human brain can actually fathom nothing completely.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Guest The Winter Of My Discontent

I feel bad for Damaramu, but not because his Grandpa is dying.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

If it helps, Dam, I've asked myself the same questions over and over again. Hell, I asked many adults those questions back when I was a kid, and never got an answer that satisfied me. So while I can't offer you the meaning of life, I can at least tell you that you're not alone in not knowing it.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Guest Vitamin X

Supposedly for all those who say there's no soul, as anyone who's seen trailers for 21 Grams knows, the human body loses exactly 21 grams when it dies, and where the weight is has yet to be found out.

 

I like to think there's a possibility of a soul existing, despite the fact that I'm pretty non-religious. Can't say I'd care if I rotted away in the ground without conscious thought, however. It's similar to posting here at times.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I hope the more liberal Christians are right, and we all go to heaven. But I fear that the atheists are right, and we all vanish into the void. That's my thoughts on the universe in a nutshell.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

It shouldn't matter if we all vanish into the void; we wouldn't be around to perceive that we've died.

 

Also, the whole "21 grams" thing comes from some fairly imprecise (and often inconsistent) measurements taken back in 1907. Not exactly scientifically loaded stuff.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I didn't find any clinical studies or anything, but I don't think many people have bothered since the doctor's methodology was so flawed and his results so varied. Basically, he concluded that it seems that the body loses some weight upon death--his results varied from the original 21 grams of the first trial to several ounces, to none at all. To take that as proof or even a suggestion that the weight is attributable to a human soul is tantamount to dropping some pudding on the floor and shouting "magic!" as far as I'm concerned.

 

Decent general summary of it all at Snopes.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Believe whatever makes you happy. Valhalla. That's where I wanna go.

How many people do you have to kill to get there? Have you started yet?

I think you just have to be a great Viking.

 

After IDRM pulled his ship up to my house, burnt my yard, destroyed my house, pillaged all of the loot inside, and raped my mom......I believed he was going.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

People have really made heaven sound boring with nothing but people sitting around singing "Jesus loves me" while eating Oscar Meyer hot dogs.

 

I personally think when you die you get put into a giant Texas Hold em tournament where if you lose you get sent back to Earth as whatever you hated most.

 

So I'll lose and be sent back to become quarterback of Michigan. Damn my soul.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Guest Sturgis

If it helps any...

 

When my stepmom was on her deathbed she would fall in and out consinous, when she came back she kept saying "It's so beautiful" and saying she saw her mother and father. So SOMETHING has to be there.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
People have really made heaven sound boring with nothing but people sitting around singing "Jesus loves me" while eating Oscar Meyer hot dogs.

 

I personally think when you die you get put into a giant Texas Hold em tournament where if you lose you get sent back to Earth as whatever you hated most.

 

So I'll lose and be sent back to become quarterback of Michigan. Damn my soul.

I'd be a rich person that didn't do anything to get rich and says everyone else is poor because they don't work hard.

 

 

So....i might throw that game on purpose.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
See I just can't fathom nothing! I just can't fathom the end of concious thought. That's what I don't like about the never ending blackness theory. Then again I don't think any human brain can actually fathom nothing completely.

It's like before you were born.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
Sign in to follow this  

×