Damaramu Posted January 19, 2005 Report Posted January 19, 2005 Ok so I just found out there's a very good possibility my grandpa may die in the next couple of days. While this upset me a lot I had to sit back and think and I realized that I was kind of scared of death myself. I mean I don't believe in God. I don't believe in Heaven and Hell. And I realize that one day I'm going to die and I have no clue what's going to happen to me after that. And that's kind of scary. Because you never know when your number is up. It could happen at anytime. So for the people here that don't believe in Heaven and Hell....what do you think will happen to us when it all ends?
kkktookmybabyaway Posted January 19, 2005 Report Posted January 19, 2005 The maggots in the ground will consume you. Sorry to hear about your grandfather. Here's hoping he passes peacefully in his sleep...
Damaramu Posted January 19, 2005 Author Report Posted January 19, 2005 No he won't. He's got an aneurysm that's about 7.5 centimeters long. It hasn't burst yet but if he does anything stressful it will and it'll kill him. But he's going to the hospital to get surgery to remove it. The problem is they don't usually operate on anything over 5 centimeters. They could either kill him, give him a stroke, damage his brain, paralyze him, or fix him completely. But there's a very small chance he'll be fixed completely. The thing that upsets me the most is that my Grandpa is the toughest guy on know and the guy I respect the most. Since I hate my father and step-father I look up to my Grandpa. The guy never complains, he always gets the job done and he's always been responsible. I've never seen him get scared of anything and for once he's scared of what's going to happen. And that scares me. I mean this is the guy that had a heart attack on the side of the road while driving a stick shift and drove himself to the hospital for treatment. I figured nothing would ever kill him.
HarleyQuinn Posted January 19, 2005 Report Posted January 19, 2005 Sorry to hear that news. As for an answer, I like to think that we'd be re-incarnated but I figure it'll be more like we just float in a space of never ending darkness.
Damaramu Posted January 19, 2005 Author Report Posted January 19, 2005 See I just can't fathom nothing! I just can't fathom the end of concious thought. That's what I don't like about the never ending blackness theory. Then again I don't think any human brain can actually fathom nothing completely.
Guest The Winter Of My Discontent Posted January 19, 2005 Report Posted January 19, 2005 I feel bad for Damaramu, but not because his Grandpa is dying.
Jingus Posted January 19, 2005 Report Posted January 19, 2005 If it helps, Dam, I've asked myself the same questions over and over again. Hell, I asked many adults those questions back when I was a kid, and never got an answer that satisfied me. So while I can't offer you the meaning of life, I can at least tell you that you're not alone in not knowing it.
Guest Vitamin X Posted January 19, 2005 Report Posted January 19, 2005 Supposedly for all those who say there's no soul, as anyone who's seen trailers for 21 Grams knows, the human body loses exactly 21 grams when it dies, and where the weight is has yet to be found out. I like to think there's a possibility of a soul existing, despite the fact that I'm pretty non-religious. Can't say I'd care if I rotted away in the ground without conscious thought, however. It's similar to posting here at times.
Jingus Posted January 19, 2005 Report Posted January 19, 2005 I hope the more liberal Christians are right, and we all go to heaven. But I fear that the atheists are right, and we all vanish into the void. That's my thoughts on the universe in a nutshell.
Vigo Posted January 20, 2005 Report Posted January 20, 2005 I believe nothing happens, we just cease to be and that's it.
Edwin MacPhisto Posted January 20, 2005 Report Posted January 20, 2005 It shouldn't matter if we all vanish into the void; we wouldn't be around to perceive that we've died. Also, the whole "21 grams" thing comes from some fairly imprecise (and often inconsistent) measurements taken back in 1907. Not exactly scientifically loaded stuff.
Guest Vitamin X Posted January 20, 2005 Report Posted January 20, 2005 Surely they've at least checked up on it since then, though?
Edwin MacPhisto Posted January 20, 2005 Report Posted January 20, 2005 I didn't find any clinical studies or anything, but I don't think many people have bothered since the doctor's methodology was so flawed and his results so varied. Basically, he concluded that it seems that the body loses some weight upon death--his results varied from the original 21 grams of the first trial to several ounces, to none at all. To take that as proof or even a suggestion that the weight is attributable to a human soul is tantamount to dropping some pudding on the floor and shouting "magic!" as far as I'm concerned. Decent general summary of it all at Snopes.
Twisted Intestine Posted January 20, 2005 Report Posted January 20, 2005 "barring a local outbreak of distemper, one is forced to conjecture that the good doctor calmly poisoned fifteen healthy canines for his little exercise in biological theology." Bastard!
Twisted Intestine Posted January 20, 2005 Report Posted January 20, 2005 Back to the topic at hand.. The universe just replays itself over and over... It implodes after a certain amount of time, Big Bang happens again, and it's like a broken record. Hence deja vu~!
Your Paragon of Virtue Posted January 20, 2005 Report Posted January 20, 2005 Don't believe in God? Well only God can judge the human heart and-- aww never mind, you're probably going to Hell.
Nighthawk Posted January 20, 2005 Report Posted January 20, 2005 Believe whatever makes you happy. Valhalla. That's where I wanna go.
Your Paragon of Virtue Posted January 20, 2005 Report Posted January 20, 2005 Believe whatever makes you happy. Valhalla. That's where I wanna go. How many people do you have to kill to get there? Have you started yet?
Damaramu Posted January 20, 2005 Author Report Posted January 20, 2005 Believe whatever makes you happy. Valhalla. That's where I wanna go. How many people do you have to kill to get there? Have you started yet? I think you just have to be a great Viking. After IDRM pulled his ship up to my house, burnt my yard, destroyed my house, pillaged all of the loot inside, and raped my mom......I believed he was going.
Vern Gagne Posted January 20, 2005 Report Posted January 20, 2005 My grandpa has a copy of Mein Kampf? Wonder where he ended up?
GreatWhiteNope Posted January 20, 2005 Report Posted January 20, 2005 My grandpa has a copy of Mein Kampf? Wonder where he ended up? Long Island
2GOLD Posted January 20, 2005 Report Posted January 20, 2005 People have really made heaven sound boring with nothing but people sitting around singing "Jesus loves me" while eating Oscar Meyer hot dogs. I personally think when you die you get put into a giant Texas Hold em tournament where if you lose you get sent back to Earth as whatever you hated most. So I'll lose and be sent back to become quarterback of Michigan. Damn my soul.
Guest Sturgis Posted January 20, 2005 Report Posted January 20, 2005 If it helps any... When my stepmom was on her deathbed she would fall in and out consinous, when she came back she kept saying "It's so beautiful" and saying she saw her mother and father. So SOMETHING has to be there.
Ripper Posted January 20, 2005 Report Posted January 20, 2005 People have really made heaven sound boring with nothing but people sitting around singing "Jesus loves me" while eating Oscar Meyer hot dogs. I personally think when you die you get put into a giant Texas Hold em tournament where if you lose you get sent back to Earth as whatever you hated most. So I'll lose and be sent back to become quarterback of Michigan. Damn my soul. I'd be a rich person that didn't do anything to get rich and says everyone else is poor because they don't work hard. So....i might throw that game on purpose.
Jingus Posted January 20, 2005 Report Posted January 20, 2005 So, I'll probably come back as that godhatesfags guy... or a tarantula... or Vince Russo. Arrgh.
Mole Posted January 20, 2005 Report Posted January 20, 2005 Valhalla Great song by Strangefolk. Sorry to hear about your Grandpa Dam.
BHK Posted January 21, 2005 Report Posted January 21, 2005 See I just can't fathom nothing! I just can't fathom the end of concious thought. That's what I don't like about the never ending blackness theory. Then again I don't think any human brain can actually fathom nothing completely. It's like before you were born.
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