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I think they should do two venues next year, one for RAW and one for Smackdown.

 

But I doubt they would do that..

 

My guesses:

 

Large Venues (I doubt they'll do a large one for a while though)

 

Superdome - New Orleans

Georgia Dome - Atlanta

Tropicana Field - Tampa

*Bank One Ballpark - Phoenix*

 

Regular Arenas

Charlotte

Denver

Chicago

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Guest The Shadow Behind You

Tropicana Field was supposed to host WMX8 but it was too large of a walkway.

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I can see it taking place in Florida in a normal arena.

 

Not every exciting, but probably nearer to the truth. Or maybe Chicago. When business is bad, they tend to stick to the main markets and the starved ones. Florida and Chicago are sure bets for them.

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... and no crowd that could legitimately beat 93.173.

I don't understand that. Wouldn't that be a good thing to draw more than 93,000?

Yes it would be, but the 93,173 number has such a mystique to it that Vince doesn't want to destroy it.

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... and no crowd that could legitimately beat 93.173.

I don't understand that. Wouldn't that be a good thing to draw more than 93,000?

Yes it would be, but the 93,173 number has such a mystique to it that Vince doesn't want to destroy it.

Would that be another case of putting ego in front of box office? Or is he right to want to protect it, in your opinion, VTQ/HTQ?

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... and no crowd that could legitimately beat 93.173.

I don't understand that. Wouldn't that be a good thing to draw more than 93,000?

You know, if they knew ahead of time they could get 100,000 people, I guarantee I know the Main Event..

 

HHH vs "Hollywood" Hogan.

 

Hollywood Hogan: "..and as I picked up the 400 lb monster of a man HHH, the entire (insert name of arena) was litterally shaking from the 100,000 Hollywood-a-maniacs having an episode of Deja Vu back to the Silverdome where I picked up Andre and slammed him to the canvas in front of 93,000 screaming Hollywood-a-maniacs and won the WWE title, but this was in front of 100.000 screaming Hollywood-a-maniacs. I could feel the energy from all the Hollywood-a-maniacs running through my body, and then brother, would you belive my right knee blew out..20 years is a really long time dude.."

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Fucking shit, Wrestlemania needs to come back to Detroit, I don't care about how many people it will draw, because it will draw and damnit I want to see a Wrestlemania come to my hometown again, since I physically can't remember the first one that did

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... and no crowd that could legitimately beat 93.173.

I don't understand that. Wouldn't that be a good thing to draw more than 93,000?

Yes it would be, but the 93,173 number has such a mystique to it that Vince doesn't want to destroy it.

Would that be another case of putting ego in front of box office? Or is he right to want to protect it, in your opinion, VTQ/HTQ?

It's not a right thing or a wrong thing. It's where he wants to protect a memory, even though, in his heart, he knows it's false. It's like when Crusher and The Baron, I think, did that angle with Lawler at one of the PPV's a few years back; the fans knew they weren't the tough guys they were back in the day, but they didn't want to have to see it in front of them.

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I don't think Vince will ever run a WM, or any major event, at the Silverdome ever again. Vince is very protective of the image of the mythical 93,173 number now; on the few times in recent years they could have legitimately drawn a crowd bigger than that, WM X-7 for example, he’s opted not to, simply because he wants the magic number of 93,173 to stand forever. By that same token, he’s also not going to want any potential crowd they could draw there, which would never be announced as bigger than 93,173 even if it was, to be compared to it. Vince wants the myth and lore surrounding WM III to live forever, and he won’t do anything that, in his eyes, could damage it. That means no WM in the Silverdome, and no crowd that could legitimately beat 93.173.

1) Where else could he have run WMX7?

2) I think if he can match WM3 20 years later it would mean just as much, if not more.

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He's saying the business was @ it's peak for WMX7 with the greatest card ever and the biggest Main event since WM3 meaning the company could have actually legit drawn 93+ in a larger venue like the Superdome or TWADome(St. Louis). Instead opted for the 70+ @ Astrodome.

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2) I think if he can match WM3 20 years later it would mean just as much, if not more.

1) It would take a turnaround the likes of which we’ve never seen before for WWE to have something that could even come close to legitimately drawing over 100,000 by WM XXIII

 

2) It would take such a turnaround, plus the convergence of all nine planets in the solar system into perfect alignment, for them to have something that could approach the level of fervor that Hulk v Andre had. Unless a time machine is invented and they get Austin in his prime v Hogan in his prime, it just isn’t going to happen, and if the match isn’t suitably historic then it won’t be allowed to overtake the WM III legacy.

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Actually; if vince was so concerned about maintaining the aura of WMIII, why did he originally book WMVII in the LA Memorial Where they actually promoted they would have over 100K there.

 

Obviously it never happened due to slow ticket sales and they did the "bomb" threat excuse to move it to the smaller sports arena.

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Who knows, if business is back and booming in 5-10 years, we might see it happen.

I highly doubt it, at least not for a very long time. I think the Austin v Rock WM X-7 was the peak, and we won't see something even approaching that for years, if at any time in the next 20 or 30 years. The whole feeling and vibe of that match, which you need to draw something close to 100,000, was something very special, and it won't come around again any time soon.

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Actually; if vince was so concerned about maintaining the aura of WMIII, why did he originally book WMVII in the LA Memorial Where they actually promoted they would have over 100K there.

He wasn't so concerned with it then. I think over time, his attitude towards certain things has changed, and the WM III legacy is one of them. In fact, if they had done that WM 7 at the LA Memorial, and it had drawn 100,000, I actually think Vince would regret it right now.

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Who knows, if business is back and booming in 5-10 years, we might see it happen.

I highly doubt it, at least not for a very long time. I think the Austin v Rock WM X-7 was the peak, and we won't see something even approaching that for years, if at any time in the next 20 or 30 years. The whole feeling and vibe of that match, which you need to draw something close to 100,000, was something very special, and it won't come around again any time soon.

You really think THAT long? I mean I can understand for the next few years but 20-30? That's pretty bad.

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I bet Mania in Toronto could do over 100,000; but we dont have a stadium that big.

 

I'd like to see Montreal get it, just because its been such a good market for the WWE over the years, and they've never held a Mania there.

 

Chicago is always good, but I think they should hold of until the 25th anniversay or Mania. I think they see Chicago as their #2 major city (behind NYC obviously), so that would be a good fit.

 

I think cities should ahve to waitat least 10 years in beteen Manias. NYC will obviously get every 10th anniversary, so no othr city should host in a shorter interval. I know Anahiem did it, but that was really dumb, never understood why they went back there so qucikly. Especially considering how bad the crowd was/is.

 

Atlanta or Charlotte would be interesting picks. I kinda like the idea of Charlotte. I think they have a new arena coming there for the Bobcats, and maybe they could induct Flair in the HOF at that show.

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Who knows, if business is back and booming in 5-10 years, we might see it happen.

I highly doubt it, at least not for a very long time. I think the Austin v Rock WM X-7 was the peak, and we won't see something even approaching that for years, if at any time in the next 20 or 30 years. The whole feeling and vibe of that match, which you need to draw something close to 100,000, was something very special, and it won't come around again any time soon.

You really think THAT long? I mean I can understand for the next few years but 20-30? That's pretty bad.

It's not a question of bad, it's just the whole vibe and feel of WM X-7 wasn't just special, but special. That kind of thing does not come along very often.

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Who knows, if business is back and booming in 5-10 years, we might see it happen.

I highly doubt it, at least not for a very long time. I think the Austin v Rock WM X-7 was the peak, and we won't see something even approaching that for years, if at any time in the next 20 or 30 years. The whole feeling and vibe of that match, which you need to draw something close to 100,000, was something very special, and it won't come around again any time soon.

You really think THAT long? I mean I can understand for the next few years but 20-30? That's pretty bad.

It's not a question of bad, it's just the whole vibe and feel of WM X-7 wasn't just special, but special. That kind of thing does not come along very often.

I definately know what your saying...but are you talking about business as a whole or the feeling of the match?

 

I'd say Hogan/Andre from Mania 3 is very comparable to Rock/Austin at Mania 17, and that's 15 years so I see your point regarding the "speciality" feel of a match.

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Who knows, if business is back and booming in 5-10 years, we might see it happen.

I highly doubt it, at least not for a very long time. I think the Austin v Rock WM X-7 was the peak, and we won't see something even approaching that for years, if at any time in the next 20 or 30 years. The whole feeling and vibe of that match, which you need to draw something close to 100,000, was something very special, and it won't come around again any time soon.

You really think THAT long? I mean I can understand for the next few years but 20-30? That's pretty bad.

It's not a question of bad, it's just the whole vibe and feel of WM X-7 wasn't just special, but special. That kind of thing does not come along very often.

I definately know what your saying...but are you talking about business as a whole or the feeling of the match?

 

I'd say Hogan/Andre from Mania 3 is very comparable to Rock/Austin at Mania 17, and that's 15 years so I see your point regarding the "speciality" feel of a match.

It's the whole ball of wax, both the business as a whole and the match. It'll take business being super hot and a match that has that feel of being special to approach the possibility of drawing 100,000. It's all got to come together in a manner that doesn't happen very often.

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Who knows, if business is back and booming in 5-10 years, we might see it happen.

I highly doubt it, at least not for a very long time. I think the Austin v Rock WM X-7 was the peak, and we won't see something even approaching that for years, if at any time in the next 20 or 30 years. The whole feeling and vibe of that match, which you need to draw something close to 100,000, was something very special, and it won't come around again any time soon.

Wrestling would be dead if it takes a 20 years for another boom. I predict another boom happining in 2011.

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Who knows, if business is back and booming in 5-10 years, we might see it happen.

I highly doubt it, at least not for a very long time. I think the Austin v Rock WM X-7 was the peak, and we won't see something even approaching that for years, if at any time in the next 20 or 30 years. The whole feeling and vibe of that match, which you need to draw something close to 100,000, was something very special, and it won't come around again any time soon.

Wrestling would be dead if it takes a 20 years for another boom. I predict another boom happining in 2011.

A boom on it's own won't create something that could draw 100,000. It takes something very special, the kind of thing that just does not happen very often. While a boom almost certainly will happen again in the next 5-10 years, the circumstances required for that elusive 100,000 crowd almost certainly won't.

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I should remind everyone that WM3 drew 78,000 people, not 93,173. That number is a work.

 

(Someone always has to remember to point that out.)

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Isn't Boston cold in March? Would it be a good idea to hold WM at Fenway?

It's hit or miss, really. It'll feel like summer on St. Patrick's Day, then three days later it'll be snowing. It seems to be different every year.

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I should remind everyone that WM3 drew 78,000 people, not 93,173. That number is a work.

 

(Someone always has to remember to point that out.)

Let's not start a war over this shit again. It was a good show and there was alot of fucking people there, END IT.

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WM III is of mythic proportions for many reasons(Piper's real last "special match", the culmination of the Hart Foundation/Bulldogs feud*Savage/Steamboat). Even the debate about the crowd number is now folklore. Hogan and Andre was just the icing on the cake. In actual truth the biggest match since Hogan/Andre was the rematch on NBC. Rock/Austin was the closest thing since then and didn't Vince have promos about records being broken for WM 17 at the WM 16 ppv? Maybe it's true that Vince doesn't want to break the myth because that was the best time probably to do it. Actually, I think WM 15 was the REAL peak where Rock and Austin really had a divided audience and it was the "raging climax" of the biggest feud of the attitude era(Vince vs. Austin). Doesn't that ppv also have the record buy-rate?

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Actually, I think WM 15 was the REAL peak where Rock and Austin really had a divided audience and it was the "raging climax" of the biggest feud of the attitude era(Vince vs. Austin). Doesn't that ppv also have the record buy-rate?

WM X-7 was the peak. It was the all-time record for total show revenue, with the live gate, merchandise, and PPV buys grossing $42.59 million dollars. It had the biggest gate in US history, at $3,530,904. And, depending on the number of buys WM XX got, it was either the largest or second largest amount of buys in WWF/E history.

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