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Deaths of Wrestling << or something along those lines.. highlighting the careers in the WWF of Hawk, Mr. Perfect, Owen Hart, Big Bossman, British Bulldog, Crash Holly, Big John Studd, Rick Rude.. among others. Give each person one to three matches.. and you'd have a beautiful little collection.

 

My idea for the DVD would be a 3 disc set.. with about 3 people per DVD.

 

say the first DVD would have..

 

Mr. Perfect, Rick Rude, and Hawk

Owen Hart, Big Bossman, and Crash Holly

and continue on from there..

 

Anyways.. the idea would be to give each wrestler,

*a 3-5 minute "tribute video"...

*highlight their career.. and in some cases like Mr. Perfect their returns.

*followed by commments of people who were around in those days (Flair, Austin, Vince, Shane, Stepahanie, Brisco.. so on)..

*then comments on what some of the wrestlers thought were their greatest matches and stuff.. wrestlers from today like Hurricane, Triple H, Randy Orton, Batista.. and so on.

*Toss in some random clips and interviews throughout each stage and break in the DVD of each superstar... some of their best interviews and stuff.

*then to end.. add in the part with the McMahon voiceover.. that probably happened on the following RAW or Smackdown after the death.. if one wasn't done.. make one.

 

Do that for each of the 3 superstars per disc.. don't make it too long.. because if it does well.. they could release dvd sets of each of the wrestlers in the set. Add 2 bonus matches per wrestler for the extra disc.

 

 

I think that would sell awesome.. and I think it would be a great DVD if done that way.. what are your thoughts?

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It's a good idea but would Vince like to point out to everyone out there that these people are gone. Some of these guys died of drug/steroid abuse and Owen died in the ring and that is NOT an image a publically trade company would like to portray.

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This will never happen; Unlike Andre who was vince's "guy" and died of somewhat natural and more forgivable causes. Owen, Rude, Perfect, Holly, Hawk, Davey and Many others died of "bad" reasons that poorly reflect upon the business.

 

I love the idea of these people getting proper due but let's ask this; how far back can we go here? Theorectially if it's a "Remembering the one's we lost" dvd set; we could concieveably go back to Thesz here.

 

It's a nice concept but I'd perfer Owen Hart, Mr. Perfect, Davey Boy Smith, Brian Pillman, Rick Rude and all the others get their own special edition dvd.

 

Crash Holly shouldn't have one at all because he wasn't a name nor did he do anything meaningful in the ring or in his tenure. He can't get a DVD treatment simply because he died. Alot of people in this business have died; should they ALL get treatment?

 

Owen Hart had an amazing carrer with alot of incredible matches not just in WWF but in Stampede and Japan. You could easily make a 2 disc dvd collection out of his career. Esp if you consider you can fill up 3 hours easily on Owen stories.

 

Curt Hening had a long and traveled career and would be deserving of one, as would Pillman and Davey.

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Did you not read anything I wrote? First of all, I said WWF comp.. which Theisz it was WWWF.. so there goes that. Crash Holly didnt have a great career no.. but he was geniune nice guy to the business and the hardcore title stuff, while not the greatest thing of all time.. still has history. And as far as I'm corcerned, Crash Holly was one of the most enertaining people when he first came.

 

I also said.. only add 1 or 2 matches of each guy.. so that if the DVD does well.. it would be open to make future DVD Set's of each guy. And methinks thats a perfect idea.

 

Also.. it doesnt have to directly state how each man died.. when I said have the Vince voice over.. I simply meant the picture with the date of birth and date of death with a comment like.. "Mr. Perfect was a great man both inside and outside of the ring. He was truly one of wrestling's greats. And for this.. he will never be forgotten."

 

Or something along those lines.. The DVD would rock, the memories would rock, the nostaglia would rock.. hell the whole thing would rock.

 

oh and Yes.. Pillman would be one of the other ones involved in the set, probably to go along with Andre and Studd on the final disc.

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Vince owns all of that. If you are going to use Hening; you have to include his AWA and WCW stuff.

 

Conceiveably if you have the libaray, you should use it. Like vince did with Guerrero, Benoit, Foley and all the other recent ones.

 

It wouldn't be a WWE work exclusive dvd. He spent money for the ECW, AWA, NWA/WCW stuff and he'll use it.

 

If you make a dvd full of dead wrestlers where most of them died because of steroid abuse; it once again opens that can of worms again for vince and the business as a whole. It'd praticually be an open invitation for people vigorously dicuss how evil Vince McMahon is and all that stupid bullshit. It's a black mark of many black marks for Wrestling; how so many of it's workers have died because of using a substance that ethically is wrong and in some cases, Illegal.

 

It's better that we avoid doing something like this as much as they deserve it. Eventually in time, nearly every wrestler to ever perform will have thier own dvd collection by 2010.

 

except Bret Hart. he'll never have one. Only because it's been teased since 2001 and it's 2005 and it still hasn't arrived.

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When was the last HHH DVD?

I believe that would be the small "That Damn Good" dvd in early 2001 which actually was a collector's item as it was exclusive to one store (I want to say Best Buy or Suncoast, but im not certain) and there wasn't even a promotion for it.

 

I say by 2006, We'll have a real comprehensive "The Ultimate Collection of "The Game" Triple H" 3 disc set.

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Every Wrestler to ever perform will have a Set by 2010? hahaha I highly doubt that. We've got about 15 or so. Theres at least 300 wrestlers probably that he could still make discs for..

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That's called hyperbole. Considering the incredible pace and decreasing cost of dvd production these days. It's completely logical to assume the amount of wrestler bio/collection will only increase dramatically espicially considering it's one of the very few things bringing a profit to WWE today.

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I bet you could fill up a disc on HHH's DVD with the amount of times he's slapped around Rob Van Dam.

You know, actually they really haven't interacted too much after their feud in '02.

 

Poor Rob still hasn't recovered. I guess Trips was really offended by that water spit mock. :P

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I want a Bret Hart DVD. Very very badly.

 

Of course, realistically, I can't see it happening anytime soon.

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I guess Trips was really offended by that water spit mock. :P

That was priceless.

"You spit water better than anybody else!"

"Grr, I'm mean mr. Muscle!"

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I'm surprised there's no 2-disc Chris Jericho DVD out there yet.

 

After all, he's one of the few wrestlers they have that was in WWE, WCW, ECW and SMW, so they can include matches from each of those to make up for the blurred matches they likely won't put in from 1999-2002.

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I'm not trying to disparage the memory of any wrestler, but Big Boss Man, Crash Holly, and Hawk don't deservet to be a DVD just because they died. Know, a Road Warriors DVD set, would be a nice idea.

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Is there any chance in hell we will ever see a Randy Savage set similiar to Ric Flair's?

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I'm surprised there's no 2-disc Chris Jericho DVD out there yet.

 

After all, he's one of the few wrestlers they have that was in WWE, WCW, ECW and SMW, so they can include matches from each of those to make up for the blurred matches they likely won't put in from 1999-2002.

I'm sure Jericho is on the list. The sets they've put out are for the 'workrate' guys like Benoit, Eddie, Rey who like you said have footage from other companies but have also had a decent amount of top quality matches. Plus, at least Jericho might have an interesting back-story in his DVD...more so than RVD.

 

A HHH 2 disk would be nice. But I can't see him agreeing to any of his WCW run getting on the DVD and that leaves the scratch logo years. Ditto on the last point for Angle.

 

Whatever happened to the Horseman DVD. They could find TONS of interesting matches and in theory, they'd be from different eras. Maybe add some WWF Brainbuster matches.

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Worthy of 2-discs:

- Hall Of Fame 2005

- Triple H (just about all the matches from Triple H: The Game would be of good use)

- The Rock (his full-time career is well over; might as well release a 2-disc set covering his whole career)

- Steve Austin (see The Rock. Austin needs something better than the half-assed Stone Cold Truth release)

- Chris Jericho

- Kurt Angle

- Undertaker (but maybe wait until he does truly retire)

 

The obvious choices, actually.

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Kurt Angle did have a dvd produced but it was pulled for reasons Im still not certain about.

 

The biggest issue with Angle; His WHOLE career basically spanned during the blurred Logo years. While the blurry doesnt bother me; some people straight down hate it. However; a 60 minute bio similar to his book with the additional stuff about his surgery with about 5-8 matches could easily occur.

 

Would Triple H allow Terra Ryzing on his hypothetical DVD? Of course he would. He's a historian and it's another chance for him to say "No one gave me a real shot, so i did it on my own". You could easily slap a Saturday Night match or even the ppv match where he put over Alex Wright which would fit with the aforementioned "they didn't give me a shot" line.

 

The Horseman dvd is still down the line; I believe this summer.

 

Jericho is interesting; Rob Van Dam historically has been one of Triple H's arch nemesis but he got a DVD treatment. Jericho with a richer career hasn't. There's an amazing catalouge to choose from for Jericho. From SMW, ECW, WCW, Japan and WWE. 1998 Jericho alone deserves a DVD release. Ralphus has to be on the cover.

 

Undertaker is a no brainer but he's not going to have a career retrospective awhile he's still around.

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The biggest issue with Angle; His WHOLE career basically spanned during the blurred Logo years. While the blurry doesnt bother me; some people straight down hate it. However; a 60 minute bio similar to his book with the additional stuff about his surgery with about 5-8 matches could easily occur.

Blurriness of the old logo is not a big issue. I wish they would just find a way to blacken the turnbuckles completely, but editing visuals is not the issue. The tough part is: How many of the matches you want to produce mention "WWF" by the commentators? I watched Austin-Rock from WrestleMania X-Seven not too long ago, and completely lost count how many times JR and Heyman said "WWF Champion" or "WWF Championship" or any other mention of "WWF".

 

But blurring out logos is the least of their worries. If it was that big of a deal, Cactus-HHH (Royal Rumble 2000), Rock-Mankind (Raw), Mankind-Taker (HIAC 98), RVD-J.Hardy (Invasion), Austin-Dude Love (OTE 98) wouldn't have been reproduced by them.

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Since a lot of people have listed or will list the obviou choices, I'll use this opportunity to state that I'd love to see a "Best of Edge and Christian" DVD or even a set profiling E & C, The Hardy Boyz, and The Dudley Boyz, and their feuds.

 

I doubt that an E&C set or one profiling the 3 team feud will ever be released, but we may see a Dudleyz DVD. Sadly, they're my least favorite team of the three.

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Table, Ladders, Chairs......Oh My:

 

HBK vs Bret Hart from CHV

HBK vs Razor Ramon Summerslam 95

Rock vs HHH Summerslam 98

Hardys vs Dudleys in the Tables match

Hardy vs E&C in the tag team ladder match

TLC 1,2,3

Jeff Hardy vs Undertaker in the "HEY HEY HEY MY CAREER IS NOT OVER YET" ladder match from Raw

RVD vs Guerrero from Raw

Jericho vs Benoit in the IC ladder match

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Regardless of their history with or without Vince, doing a Dead Wrestlers DVD with only wrestlers who made their name in WWE is insensitive and short-sighted. We're in a monopoly now, and Vince is responsible for paying respects to ALL of the wrestlers of yesteryear who pass away, not just the ones that worked for him and that he liked. He's said as much.

 

So, if a disk like that is truly to be made, not including guys like Wahoo McDaniel or Lou Thesz would be offensive. If Sting dropped dead tomorrow, I'd expect the same respect for him, wouldn't you?

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I wasnt saying DVD couldn't be released of those guys.. I was just piping out an idea.. I wasnt necessarily saying guys couldnt be one it.. i was just giving out an idea of a DVD that would sell good.

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I'd like to see a DVD on...

 

The Dudleyz (ONLY if they don't put everything that's already on their ECW DVD on there)

 

A Table Match DVD

 

A Ladder Match DVD

 

Best of Al Snow

 

Ultimate Ric Flair Collection Vol. 2

 

And IF DONE RIGHT...

 

Best of the Big Shooww

 

Best of Kurt Angle

 

Best of the Undertaker

 

Best of the Rock...

 

Duh!

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Deaths of Wrestling << or something along those lines.. highlighting the careers in the WWF of Hawk, Mr. Perfect, Owen Hart, Big Bossman, British Bulldog, Crash Holly, Big John Studd, Rick Rude.. among others. Give each person one to three matches.. and you'd have a beautiful little collection.

 

Do that for each of the 3 superstars per disc.. don't make it too long.. because if it does well.. they could release dvd sets of each of the wrestlers in the set. Add 2 bonus matches per wrestler for the extra disc.

 

I think that would sell awesome.. and I think it would be a great DVD if done that way.. what are your thoughts?

Noone else mentioned this yet, but "Deaths of Wrestling" is easily the worst name for a DVD I can imagine. At the very least, the title would need to be something less morbid like "The 'WWE Remembers' Collection", or some such.

 

Either way, I think the whole concept is a tad irrelevant since, if you don't know, they did a similiar tribute to wrestlers on the Hall of Fame 04 DVD. Soon enough, guys like Rick Rude and Curt Hennig would be put into the HOF anyway, and would be given their tribute including matches at that point.

 

But for releasing individual DVDs of lifelong midcarders like Crash Holly just because he died? Theres no way it's gonna sell enough copies to justify the time and cost of compiling and releasing it (or, at least, it would sell extremely poorly compared with a smarter choice of DVD). Besides, the WWE 24-7 thing is a far preferable outlet on which to squeeze 1-hour segments on past wrestlers.

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