Who should of won the WWE world title...

[tbondrage99 0]

We all know there are a few deserving guys who never got the chance. I always think of MR. Wonderful Paul Orndorff & The Million Dollar Man Ted DiBiase.

 

Sad thing about it is if the title changed hands back in the 80s as it does now then it could almost be garenteed that both men would of had the honor.

[Prophet of Mike Zagurski 0]

What about Jake 'The Snake" Roberts?

[Guest The Mandingo Warrior]

Bastian Booger.

[Enigma 0]

I think Razor Ramon should have had at least one run as WWF Champion.

[Guest Ice Classic V.2]

I would have enjoy a Mr. Perfect reign.

[tbondrage99 0]

I think Razor Ramon should have had at least one run as WWF Champion.

think it would of been a sure thing had he not jumped ship to WCW.

[Guest The Mandingo Warrior]

Believe it or not, but I think either Bad News Brown or Big Bossman would have made great heel champs during their heydays (1988 or so). Both were arguably the top heels at one time or another, having both feuded with the top face, Hulk Hogan. And I would have loved to see Slick rant and rave about managing a champion.

[JN News 0]

Owen Hart

[Kahran Ramsus 0]

Dibiase deserved one, but in retrospect it worked better with Savage's year long reign and Dibiase was never at the same level afterwards.

 

I'll go with Mr. Perfect who was easily over enough to be WWF Champion in 1993. Certainly would have been better than Hogan's reign.

 

If you include the WCW Title, then Rick Rude definitely should have won that one.

[UseTheSledgehammerUh 0]

RVD. Fall. 2001. Most over guy in the company. Good enough-very good matches all summer.

 

By December = Taker's bitch.

 

By February = Goldust feud.

 

By April-May = Eddie's bitch.

 

By June = Brock's bitch.

 

By Sept. = Trip's bitch.

 

Notice a trend here? I wonder WHY he's so complacent.

[Some Guy 0]

Rude did get the INternational World title/Big Gold Belt/the title formerly known as the NWA title. I;m dure he would haev gotten the WCW title in 92 had he not gotten injured and probably in 94 had he not gotten injured and Hogan not come in.

 

Dibiase deserved the belt but there wasn't really space for his reign because of the Mega Powers angle that drew a ton on money.

 

Perfect would have most likely gotten Bret Hart's spot had he not been injured in 92, he thought so anyway according Tributes II. He should have had Yoko's spot at WM 9 IMO. In 96 when Vince thought Bret was going to WCW they were going to buy out his insurance policy (again) so he come back as a main eventer, but they didn't tell him first and he got pissed that they went to the insurance company behind his back and defected to WCW.

 

Bad News was in the same position as DiBiase, he feuded with Savage over the belt in 88 and Hogan in 89. In both cases the belt was reserved for the next guy (Hogan and Warrior). He claims that Vince promised him the belt though.

 

Orndorf and Piper both deserved a run in the mid 80s.

 

Booker T and RVD both should have won the title from HHH and were over enough to run with it for a bit.

 

Razor should have had Nash's spot in 95.

 

Vader should have beaten Shawn at Summerslam 96 and it was really stupid that he didn't.

 

Off topic but related:

Guys who had the belt but shouldn't have:

Slaughter

Sid

Nash

Kane

Big Show

JBL

Orton (too soon for him)

Vince

[strummer 0]

Well Dibiase was going to get a run as champion in 88. He was going to win the tournament at WM 4 and then job the title to Savage at the first Summerslam. It would have been interesting to see how well he would have drawn in those 5 months.

 

 

I'm probably saying this because it was my favorite period in wrestling ever, but Piper and Orndorff deserved reigns in the mid-late 80s. I believe they both could have done good business, but it would have been too much of a risk to take the title of Hogan

[Guest Trivia247]

For some reason I still can't equate WWE with historical WWF ...

[Guest The Mandingo Warrior]

Looking back on it, The Warrior got the belt, but when you look at how his reign did, he probably shouldn't have. However, he was the hottest thing in the WWF up until The Ultimate Challenge, so I guess there was no real indication at the time that his reign would bomb. I think most would argue that the right person won the Ultimate Challenge, since the Warrior had a great run as IC champ, and was arguably more over than Hogan at the time. But its too bad his World title reign sucked in comparison..but as we have discussed in another thread, Vince had no really good opponents lined up for him, hell, he had to resort to "recycling" an old opponent for fucks sake!!

 

I think Warrior would have benefitted immensely by having than more than one match with Hogan..Perhaps a summerslam rematch could habe been done..in a 15 foot high flaming barbed wire steel cage match!!!

[Guest Trivia247]

there were red hot Heels and Faces who came down the pike that never got the big one in the WWF of the 80's 90's.

 

Roddy Piper was one of the best Heels there was in the early 80's in the WWF.

 

Jimmy Snuka who was insanely popular also but never won any title.

 

same goes for JYD, but the Dog I think could fit better either as a tag champ or IC perhaps.

 

Had he not been under so much pain at the time, I think Andre could have made a Dominating Champion.

 

Ted Dibiasi of course would have been a decent world champion.

 

He got the tools but I could never see Hennig as a World Champion.

 

Paul Orindorf was another World title calibur wrestler but his personality and other draw backs were lacking, or at the very least Underdeveloped by the WWF at the time.

 

Now might get flamed, but I could have saw Earthquake as a Decent World Champion, especially during his feud with Hogan.

 

See alot of those heels especially that could have been decent champs had the bad luck of being, Hogan Opponents during his streak.

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Slaughter:

Honestly, this is a toss up.

 

Sid

One of those cases where everyone loves the guy, but once he got the title no one gave a crap.

 

Kevin Nash:

Had his reign lasted a lot shorter than a year, it would've been alright, but NOOOO.

 

Kane:

1 Day Reign, 1 of the more over heel WRESTLERS (McMahon doesnt count) at the time, plus the main event vs. Austin the night after KOTR was one of the highest rated matches in RAW at the time. If anything, WWE had a good thing there, but just put the title back on Austin the next night.

 

Big Show:

Again, I don't know. Booked too strangely. One week he's an unstopable monster, the next he's jobbing to cruiserweights and curtain jerkers.

 

JBL:

JBL rules and you know it... except when it comes to actually wrestling.

 

Orton (too soon for him):

Agreed

 

Vince McMahon:

If anyone argues this was a good idea, they need a swift kick in the dick with a steel toed boot.

[Some Guy 0]

Slaughter:

Honestly, this is a toss up.

 

I don't see where the toss up is. Warrior/Hogan II would have actually drawn, been a better match, and not offended the more sensitive of the fanbase by exploiting war. Slaughter was years passed his prime, out of shape, and had a completely cheap heat based mid card character (like Iron Shiek who I left on my list because they needed a transitional champion to Hogan and he was a good as any), people wanted to kill him, not see him beaten in a worked match.

 

Sid

One of those cases where everyone loves the guy, but once he got the title no one gave a crap.

 

But he didn't draw despite everbody loving him. He got big pops, he didn't draw big houses and he couldn't work. Should have been Vader but politics got in the way.

 

Kevin Nash:

Had his reign lasted a lot shorter than a year, it would've been alright, but NOOOO.

 

If it had been shorter and started after he'd been built up, rather than out of nowhere I'd agree. He was feuding with a midcarder (Shawn) and then won the belt and they cut his character's balls off.

 

Kane:

1 Day Reign, 1 of the more over heel WRESTLERS (McMahon doesnt count) at the time, plus the main event vs. Austin the night after KOTR was one of the highest rated matches in RAW at the time. If anything, WWE had a good thing there, but just put the title back on Austin the next night.

 

Hot shot bullshit that was designed to nothign but draw a big rating and hurt Kane's career (that combined with myriad of other dumbshit they've done with him has killed any drawing power he ever had and prevented him from ever regaining it). It drew a big rating but so would have any title change or title match involving Austin.

 

Big Show:

Again, I don't know. Booked too strangely. One week he's an unstopable monster, the next he's jobbing to cruiserweights and curtain jerkers.

 

I think you're confusing title reigns. He pinned HHH with a chokeslam in a 3 way with Rock at Survivor Series 99. He was a replacement for Austin who had been hit by a car in storyline terms. They had him built up as a sympathetic babyface in a mid card feud with Bossman over the death of his father and only gave him teh belt because Austin was injured so they couldn't deliver the promised match and gave the fans something instead. He bombed to the point that Vince put the strap back on HHH within a month.

 

As far as him beating Brock, that was a huge mistake. I know they wanted to have Brock beat Angle for the belt at WM but Brock was just starting to get over and they hurt him by having him lose. They should have just run with Lensnar being an unstoppable monster and put him over Angle to retain at WM.

 

JBL:

JBL rules and you know it... except when it comes to actually wrestling.

 

What does he rule? The guy sucks and isn't over despite having a big stable of lackeys and a huge push.

 

Vince McMahon:

If anyone argues this was a good idea, they need a swift kick in the dick with a steel toed boot.

 

Agreed

[Guest FromBeyondTheGrave]

Vader.

Raven.

[Precious Roy 0]

JBL rules and you know it...

 

[Fökai 0]

Not to say that Piper had a problem with jobbing, but I'm pretty sure that Vince was convinced otherwise of putting the belt on him for that very reason.

 

Piper was pinned cleanly ONCE from his run in 1984 to 1992 (the one being Bret).

[Nighthawk 0]

Lex Luger.

[Jingus 0]

I think Warrior would have benefitted immensely by having than more than one match with Hogan..

Ah, so you've never seen THE HORROR that was Halloween Havoc 98?

 

Warrior/Hogan II would have actually drawn, been a better match,

I don't know if it would've been a better match per se. Hogan has a long history of being able to put on miracles in a big-match environment, but when it comes to the rematches they're never nearly as good as the first one. Plus, I don't think there was really anything wrong with the Hogan/Slaughter match, for what it was.

 

Raven.

Huh? He was a curtain-jerking jobber in the WWE.

 

Lex Luger.

I know what you're thinking: Summerslam '93. However, I don't know if they should've put the belt on him. Luger has been a pretty consistent anti-draw throughout his career, and I think fans would've seen thru all the Lex Express bullshit eventually and realized that he was nothing more than a Hogan wannabe in that role.

[Guest FromBeyondTheGrave]

Raven.

Huh? He was a curtain-jerking jobber in the WWE.

Never the less, if they didn't book him as a jobber, and gave him a better push, he could have been a good champion.

[Guest jm29195]

British Bulldog should have beaten Diesel to solidify his heel push at IYH 4, he could have dropped it back to Bret at IYH 5 the next month, I'd have just liked to see Davey Boy with the the belt at least once.....

[Guest The Mandingo Warrior]

Ah, so you've never seen THE HORROR that was Halloween Havoc 98?

 

Yes, but I was talking about in 1990, not 1998 (when both men were past their primes).

[Guest Frank_Nabbit]

Not to say that Piper had a problem with jobbing, but I'm pretty sure that Vince was convinced otherwise of putting the belt on him for that very reason.

 

Piper was pinned cleanly ONCE from his run in 1984 to 1992 (the one being Bret).

Snuka pinned him several times,once on a CHV even

[res37618 0]

Rude did get the INternational World title/Big Gold Belt/the title formerly known as the NWA title. I;m dure he would haev gotten the WCW title in 92 had he not gotten injured and probably in 94 had he not gotten injured and Hogan not come in.

I agree - Rude was originally scheduled to wrestle Ron Simmons at Starrcade '92 for the WCW World title, and I'm quite sure he would have won it, but injury forced him out of the match.

 

Simmons lost it a couple of days later at a house show to Vader, so I'm sure that was to make up for the Rude situation - they had planned on taking the belt off of him anyway before he tanked the entire company as champ, so Vader was the next logical choice. Vader couldn't wrestle Simmons at Starrcade, he was already booked with Sting as well as being in the BattleBowl, IIRC. Starrcade '92 wouldn't have sucked nearly as bad had the show gone off with the original matches, and not such tripe as Simmons vs. Steve Williams in a thrown-together match that NO ONE cared much about.

 

As for someone who deserved it but never won it, I'd have to go with Orndorff on the WWF side, and maybe Barry Windham or Tully Blanchard in WCW/NWA. I think Nikita Koloff would've made a good champ in '86/'87 for at least a couple of months.

[Hunter's Torn Quad 0]

Rude wasn't going to beat Simmons at Starrcade. The title was always going to go to Vader. It was actually meant to happen the day before it did, but Simmons was a no-show at the house show event in question, which didn't please Bill Watts.

[ChrisMWaters 0]

Barry Horowitz.

 

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OK, on a serious note now...Owen Hart would have made a good WWF Champ in my eyes.

 

He should have beaten Bret at Survivor Series 94, not Backlund.

 

But that's just my opinion.

[Black Lushus 0]

If only he could have stayed healthy, Ahmed Johnson...though I have a feeling it woulda been similar to Sid's reigns (over guy but sudden crap with the belt)...

 

One guy who SHOULD someday get it is Shelton Benjamin, but the fucking guy wasn't even on Raw in Japan, for whatever reason...freaking IC champ is on Raw once in 3 weeks? he'll never get over so i'll let that dream go...