Forgotten Moves

[Special K 0]

Bryan Danielson uses lots of old moves that you don't see too often.

 

I miss the hammerlock powerslam and suplex.

 

You don't see many spinning neckbreakers, expecially since you used to see like two a match back in the day.

 

biels seem uncommon

 

Fujiwara armbar

 

don't see too many second-rope elbow/knee/leg/fist drops anymore, outside of Hardy's legdrop, and he's hurt. Hurricane used to use the fistdrop.

[Guest netslob]

why doesn't anyone use the Space Flying Tiger Drop anymore? it can't be that hard.

[alfdogg 0]

Because it's not part of the WWE style, duh.

[Guest Trivia247]

Last person that did the Space Flying Tiger Drop in the WWF was The Great Sasuke Himself. Back when the WWF style wasn't as important than what it is now.

 

How about a Bridging back suplex?

 

Saito or Teardrop Suplex, in recent memory I think Shawn did that move one time for old time sake probably a year ago.

 

A Regular ol Non Finishing Powerbomb....

 

a Haku Locomotive Side Backbreaker and cover

[Guest netslob]

Because it's not part of the WWE style, duh.

D'oh, that's right. stupid me.

[DangerousDamon 0]

When Victoria first started wrestling in WWE, she used this move on Trish: standing outside the ring,  she'd somersault over the ropes and drop her leg right on Trish's neck.  It looked vicious.  I think she only did it the one time, but it was nasty enough to be a convincing finisher.

Sounds like a Slingshot Somersault Leg Drop.

 

 

 

 

where's Dace when you need him?

 

That guy is an expert on wrestling moves.

[BHK 0]

Has anyone really used a bearhug recently?

I'm thinking Mizark Henry was the last to do so.

Where is Henry, anyway? Becasue i know he's under contract until 2006.

[clean rob 0]

Sounds like a Slingshot Somersault Leg Drop.

It was. In fact, Victoria did it quite a lot, not just on one occassion. She did it on a virtually weekly basis during matches where she'd interfere for Stevie for a few months.

 

I think Shawn did that Teardrop Suplex against Benoit last year. I'm not 100% though.

[Dimensions 0]

What is a teardrop suplex exactly?

[Nighthawk 0]

They suplex you and then sleep with your girlfriend.

[cameron chaos 0]

Suplex, Salto

Used by : Mr. Saito, Shawn Michaels

AKA : Tear Drop Suplex(Michaels)

Description : Attacker stands behind and to the side of the victim. The attacker waistlocks the victim with one arm and hooks one of their legs with the other. The attacker lifts the opponent up onto their shoulder and then falls backwards.

[Hunter's Torn Quad 0]

The Saito Suplex and Shawn's old back suplex were executed differently.

[cameron chaos 0]

I swiped it from the Death Valley Driver move list because the guy asked what it was, if you want to get into the semantics of executing the move Shawn Michaels style ccompared to Saito's, go ahead.

[Hunter's Torn Quad 0]

I swiped it from the Death Valley Driver move list because the guy asked what it was, if you want to get into the semantics of executing the move Shawn Michaels style ccompared to Saito's, go ahead.

What's to argue ? They are both executed differently. End of story.

[cameron chaos 0]

Who is arguing?

 

I was trying to help Dimensions out, if you can offer a better and more accurate description, please do so. Proclaiming they are different but not explaining why doesn't help.

[Hunter's Torn Quad 0]

The Saito Suplex sees the guy performing the move grab his opponent in a waistlock, while standing to the side, like the set up to the backdrop driver. However, unlike the backdrop driver, when the move is executed, the victim isn't dropped on their head, but rather taken down like a regular back suplex, except with the guy performing the move turning a little so the impact looks more unique.

 

Shawn's back suplex finisher saw him go to the side with a set up like a backdrop driver, but he hooked his arms through his opponent's legs, so it looked like his opponent was straddling his arms, and took them over suplex style, and it looked more like a variation on an amateur wrestling throw.

 

They are two totally different moves, so I don't know how anyone with eyes can call them the same move.

[Gary Floyd 0]

Haven't seen a stump puller in ages

[haws bah gawd 0]

Noone has or uses a good old Full Nelson Slam anymore. I remember in the dying days of WCW, Brian Adams of Kronik used one. It was one of his signature moves, and always popped the crowd. He was never a GREAT (or very good, for that matter) wrestler, but he had a picture perfect Full Nelson Slam.

[JST 0]

Test used one regularly.

[haws bah gawd 0]

Yea I didnt think about him. Then again, he hasnt been an active wrestler for what seems like close to a year, now, so thats probably why.

[cameron chaos 0]

The Saito Suplex sees the guy performing the move grab his opponent in a waistlock, while standing to the side, like the set up to the backdrop driver. However, unlike the backdrop driver, when the move is executed, the victim isn't dropped on their head, but rather taken down like a regular back suplex, except with the guy performing the move turning a little so the impact looks more unique.

 

Shawn's back suplex finisher saw him go to the side with a set up like a backdrop driver, but he hooked his arms through his opponent's legs, so it looked like his opponent was straddling his arms, and took them over suplex style, and it looked more like a variation on an amateur wrestling throw.

 

They are two totally different moves, so I don't know how anyone with eyes can call them the same move.

Alright, cheers for clearing that up. I haven't seen it used that often so just google'd to try find an answer. It sounds like an Angle Slam without the arm around the neck (which could be something interesting to play off when HBK and Angle clash). Perhaps you should contact the DVDR guys and point out their error.

 

You never see sugarholds (full nelson while sitting on opponent's back a la the camel clutch) or Indian deathlocks. Last time I saw one HHH used it a few years back, I think in a match against X-Pac.

 

The abdominal stretch with the hands locked together around the neck is rarely used either, I think it's because it is easier to escape with a hiptoss or reverse without that grip on and pulling the rope makes for a better spot.

 

I always liked the lucha style bow and arrow with the leg grapevines and grabbing the wrists.

 

Test used to use the full nelson slam. I think Snitsky has used it more recently. I think I saw Maven use it on Heat before also.

[Guest Fook_Theta]

You know what I want to see more of? Fucking SUPLEX.

 

HHH is the only one to pull of the stalling suplex in a while. I know Eddie does his three amigos, but he and HHH are just about the only ones to do one. I think Benoit pulled off a snap suplex a few weeks back, but it was of such poor quality to not even qualify.

 

Power-anything. Proper DDT(Batista took that spike DDT like shit.) Nice elbow or splash off the top from someone other than Val Venis or HBK; Let Flair hit the double-arm axhandle for extra credit.

 

Basicly anything you'd see in a match in 1980s/1990s WWF, other than a few moves like the piledriver, tombstone, and certain other moves. More submission based wins for everyone on the roster in an attempt to make them believable once again.

 

I always liked the lucha style bow and arrow with the leg grapevines and grabbing the wrists.

Oh yes I forgot this one: Motherfucking Tilt-a-world backbreaker. I used to love seeing about five of those in every WCW Saturday Morning/night match.

[cameron chaos 0]

You know what I want to see more of? Fucking SUPLEX.

 

HHH is the only one to pull of the stalling suplex in a while. I know Eddie does his three amigos, but he and HHH are just about the only ones to do one. I think Benoit pulled off a snap suplex a few weeks back, but it was of such poor quality to not even qualify.

 

Power-anything. Proper DDT(Batista took that spike DDT like shit.) Nice elbow or splash off the top from someone other than Val Venis or HBK; Let Flair hit the double-arm axhandle for extra credit.

 

Basicly anything you'd see in a match in 1980s/1990s WWF, other than a few moves like the piledriver, tombstone, and certain other moves. More submission based wins for everyone on the roster in an attempt to make them believable once again.

 

I always liked the lucha style bow and arrow with the leg grapevines and grabbing the wrists.

Oh yes I forgot this one: Motherfucking Tilt-a-world backbreaker. I used to love seeing about five of those in every WCW Saturday Morning/night match.

I'll agree you don't see well executed suplexes much anymore. Davey Boy Smith used to keep them in the air for ages. Billy Gunn actually had a good stalling suplex. On TV now more people execute German suplexes than regular suplexes. No wonder everyone's getting broken necks.

 

Akio and Val Venis sell DDTs well. You won't see many top rope splashes or elbow drops now because they are respectively part of Val and Shawn's series of spots. Flair is now a parody of himself, so he will never hit the double ax handle.

 

Benoit won with the crossface just last week. Angle is always slapping on the anklelock and won last week with it. If you mean submissions that when locked on aren't countered out of a dozen times before they get the win, then I'd definitely be behind that.I don't think anyone expects Jericho to win if he goes for the Walls of Jericho because he always gets kicked away or there is a rope break. Plus it makes no sense to keep going for the same hold if it doesn't consistently work.

 

Eddy Guerrero busts out tilt-a-whirls still. He executed two sequentially at the Rumble if I remember correctly. These days the tilt-a-whirl is used to set up the huracanrana counter more often than it is set up to be executed these days.

[eiker_ir 0]

i liked that stalling suplex from Billy Gunn, it was actually more like a stalling jackhammer but without the pin.

[Guest Trivia247]

The Saito Suplex sees the guy performing the move grab his opponent in a waistlock, while standing to the side, like the set up to the backdrop driver. However, unlike the backdrop driver, when the move is executed, the victim isn't dropped on their head, but rather taken down like a regular back suplex, except with the guy performing the move turning a little so the impact looks more unique.

 

Shawn's back suplex finisher saw him go to the side with a set up like a backdrop driver, but he hooked his arms through his opponent's legs, so it looked like his opponent was straddling his arms, and took them over suplex style, and it looked more like a variation on an amateur wrestling throw.

 

They are two totally different moves, so I don't know how anyone with eyes can call them the same move.

Not to add to this , when HBK wrestled Tito Santana at wm 8 he went for his Suplex, From the Side not the back.

[Guest BDC]

Okay, y'know, people have gotten so tied up on grabbing their movesets and screaming "MINE" to prevent any crossover that you end up with the most vanilla movesets I've ever seen.

 

If I can do a top rope elbow, a senton, so on, why shouldn't I add some drama into a match?

 

I swear, someone needs a swift kick in the genitals for this "WWE Style" crap.

[cameron chaos 0]

But it makes it easier for the videogame programmers and the crowd knows when to pop for what. They can't ruin it for all those people...