Be Glad You Don't Go to This College...

[Big Ol' Smitty 0]

"Members of the First Satanic Church DO NOT sacrifice animals, worship the devil, participate in orgies, molest children or infringe on the rights of others!

 

Boooo! You mean I don't get to do any of the fun stuff, and to top it all off I have to study. F that in the A.

 

And Jingus, WTF is this talk about people who can do magic?

[Jingus 0]

It's very rare, but it can really happen. People of other belief systems might call it psychic abilities, or miracles, or whatever. Basically it's any strange occurance that can't be explained by contemporary science. I've met a few individuals who could project their thoughts like telepathy, light fires with their bare hands, stuff like that. But like I said, it's damn rare, and for every person who can really do it there's about a thousand imposters and wannabes who just claim they can.

[Nighthawk 0]

Jingus is what we in the trade call gullible. Things of that sort can be done by perfectly natural means, and just because you can't explain it doesn't mean there's no explanation.

I don't claim to know everything, but I know that I've done things which made people swear I had magical powers, when in reality I was just fucking with them.

[Big Ol' Smitty 0]

It's very rare, but it can really happen. People of other belief systems might call it psychic abilities, or miracles, or whatever. Basically it's any strange occurance that can't be explained by contemporary science. I've met a few individuals who could project their thoughts like telepathy, light fires with their bare hands, stuff like that. But like I said, it's damn rare, and for every person who can really do it there's about a thousand imposters and wannabes who just claim they can.

Okaaaaaay...

[Nighthawk 0]

Don't look down on him too much. All it takes sometimes is once instance of seeing something you really, really can't explain to convince you it's real.

It's sometimes easier to fool smarter people because they're used to logic working for them. When it fails, they jump to the opposite conclusion.

 

They should know better, though. Talk to people who go to psychics. Tell them it's fake, and 90% of the time they'll say "Yes, most of them are, but the one I go to is real."

[Giuseppe Zangara 0]

This thread just tore my mind a new asshole.

[Jingus 0]

Thing is, I know how the fakes do it. I've done it myself on occasion, like IDRM said, just to fuck with people. (I do it professionally, sorta: as a wrestling announcer, your entire job is to get the audience to ignore the shoot and believe the work.) I'm the kind of guy that magicians hate cuz I sit there in the audience pointing out exactly how half the tricks are performed. And I know exactly how gullible most people who believe in real magic really are. They either want to believe so badly that they can't be talked out of it, or they're former skeptics who ran into some trickster who was really damn good at faking it. But trust me, the two or three people I'm talking about here (I say "or" cuz I'm still not sure about one of them) couldn't have possibly been faking their shit in any way.

[Your Paragon of Virtue 0]

You can't compare working an audience in wrestling when they all know it's fake and they don't actually think it's real to you seeing a guy with fire in his hands and thinking it's REAL.

[Jingus 0]

1: you'd be amazed at the number of people around here who still believe wrestling is real.

 

2: I was just talking about creating illusions in general, and how I'm not an easy guy to fool with such.

[Guest cosbywasmurdered]

You can't compare working an audience in wrestling when they all know it's fake and they don't actually think it's real to you seeing a guy with fire in his hands and thinking it's REAL.

 

Yes because no one's ever thought wrestling was real.

[Your Paragon of Virtue 0]

You can't compare working an audience in wrestling when they all know it's fake and they don't actually think it's real to you seeing a guy with fire in his hands and thinking it's REAL.

 

Yes because no one's ever thought wrestling was real.

There's a huge difference between creating an illusion like fire or whatever in your hands and putting on a show, especially one that has been proven to be fake countless times on national television, et al. I don't think there's much of a comparison is all.

[iggymcfly 0]

Just the idea of going to that college is so depressing that I honestly think I might have nightmares about it. If I was going there, I'd have to drop out imediately before I fucking killed myself.

 

Two more things that I noticed from their site:

 

"All lights must be out by midnight."

"Freshmen and sophomores may not use their vehicles to go to and from work."

 

OK, for the first one, I can see why they're not accredited. This is supposed to be college right. That would mean that sometimes you would have to study or do homework, and having someone make sure you're in bed by midnight wouldn't really be feasible.

 

And the second one's just ridiculous. They're so into controlling people's lives that they can't even let you have the possibility that you might have a little bit of freedom somewhere. How do they expect these people to function in society?

 

Oh, and when George W. visited there on the campaign trail, he must have wondered what he'd done to himself to share any commonality with these people. I mean when he was in college, he was driving drunk and doing lines of coke. Now, he's the hero for thousands of people who aren't allowed to watch a PG movie.

[kkktookmybabyaway 0]

Bob Jones U is just another stop on a Republican presidental candidate's campagin trail...

[geniusMoment 0]

"All young ladies are required to wear thong, or g-string, undergarments. Jesus and God are kinky, they just like it on the down low."

 

--------------------------------------I am surprised no one pulled this nugget of knowledge out of their student dress code.

[Guest cosbywasmurdered]

You can't compare working an audience in wrestling when they all know it's fake and they don't actually think it's real to you seeing a guy with fire in his hands and thinking it's REAL.

 

Yes because no one's ever thought wrestling was real.

There's a huge difference between creating an illusion like fire or whatever in your hands and putting on a show, especially one that has been proven to be fake countless times on national television, et al. I don't think there's much of a comparison is all.

Thus fooling people is even HARDER in wrestling because they know it's fake.

[Your Paragon of Virtue 0]

You can't compare working an audience in wrestling when they all know it's fake and they don't actually think it's real to you seeing a guy with fire in his hands and thinking it's REAL.

 

Yes because no one's ever thought wrestling was real.

There's a huge difference between creating an illusion like fire or whatever in your hands and putting on a show, especially one that has been proven to be fake countless times on national television, et al. I don't think there's much of a comparison is all.

Thus fooling people is even HARDER in wrestling because they know it's fake.

Any person that thinks wrestling isnot scripted is a moron.

 

Jingus by his own admission is an intelligent guy, so fooling him with the fire in the hand trick would be seemingly harder.

 

Your logic is self-refuting by the way. How can they know it's fake, yet believe it? Unless you mean suspension of belief, like one would have for a movie. We all know the point of a movie is not to fool people but to tell a story. That's what wrestling was last time I checked too.

 

I'll say that it's not so hard to believe wrestling is real, since if you check a simple resource you'd find the proof that it isn't. In regards to those parlour tricks, a lot of times logic doesn't seem to work in your favour and you'd have a much harder time refuting this.

 

I'm just surprised that someone like Jingus who had such a hard time believing claims of God or religion or whatever is convinced that people who perform magic tricks have powers of some sort.

[Guest cosbywasmurdered]

JIngus's goal in wrestling is to make people forget wrestling is fake and make them think it's real. So you can make a comparison with magic and wrestling because many people go into magic expecting it to be fake and the magician's goal is to make them believe as well.

[Slayer 0]

I think Paragon just likes arguing for the sake of arguing

 

Maybe he should get together with IDRM

[Guest cosbywasmurdered]

IDRM actually knows what he's talking about

[Your Paragon of Virtue 0]

When I said you can't compare I didn't mean it literally, sorry for not pointing that out. It's like saying "You can't compare Tom Brady's QB abilities with Danny McManus". Literally you could, but really, you shouldn't. That's just semantics, but anyway, there's a huge difference between suspending your belief for awhile and still thinking that there is something real about it when you leave. You have trouble understanding this no matter how much I try to point it out, so I'll just drop it, especially since you seem to be taking this a tad personally judging from the last post.

 

To Slayer: That's probably true about the arguing.

[Guest cosbywasmurdered]

And if the announcer and wrestlers do their jobs right people leave thinking that whatever aspect is real.

 

Alot of people think Bret Hart and Steve Austin despise each other in real life because of how well they worked the crowd. Of course they're actually friends. I know people to this day though who still think their hatred's real. and that's only one example.

 

Essentially, making someone believe in something they KNOW is fake is alot harder than making people believe something they already think is real.

[Your Paragon of Virtue 0]

You're right in a lot of ways, but really, people come to a wrestling show to believe. They want you to put on a good show and do a great job that would convince them that what they see is real, while people at a magic show are more skeptical since they believe it's fake and don't say otherwise until you convince them.

 

But good on Austin and Bret. I don't think their interviews in real life did any favours in convincing people about it, like when Bret did his worked shoot on the Nitro in Canada, or when Austin went on OTR and made some comments about Bret.

[Your Paragon of Virtue 0]

Slayer is right, I do arguing for the sake of arguing. Damn.

[Jingus 0]

...people are arguing over different interpretations of my words now?

 

Wow. Between this and my ability to cause death & destruction wherever I go, I'm like a Bible made into flesh.

[Dr. Tom 0]

No poker games or dancing?

Christ, I'd likely go mad.

w00t, poker. Do you play online at all, Popick? Maybe we'll have to find a game sometime...

 

Anyway, to the actual topic of the thread: I used to work with a fellow who was a Baptist preacher's kid. He had horrible social skills, and almost got his ass beaten on a few occasions. He was working because his parents were basically making him, IIRC. Anyway, he was definitely going to BJU; it was like his life's goal or something. I think he also wanted to be a preacher. So I suppose those are the people who go to BJU, or who send their kids there.