Kill Bill: The Whole Bloody Affair

[AndrewTS]

I just swiped this from RT, so I don't know how reliable it is, but I remember hearing some people mention they were iffy about getting V1 and V2 because they expected another release coming.

 

QT:

"Kill Bill: The Whole Bloody Affair is definitely getting a wide release," he said, "actually, that'll probably be the first movie that Miramax, under their new company, will be releasing theatrically. It's the Japanese version, that's why I call it that, you know, it should probably come out in the next few months. It's going to be NC-17 in America. We couldn't do that when Disney owned the place but now Disney's the f**k outta there we can do anything we want! It's gonna be off the hook!"

 

 

NC-17? In wide release?

 

Although it would virtually guarantee a DVD release, which I'd heard rumored for August.

[Mik]

That would be interesting.

[Guest El Satanico]

No NC-17 film can get a true wide release. By wide, I'm figuring they just mean it won't be a limited city tour and will be shown in every theatre that will show it. An Art House theatre wide release, if you weill.

 

I'd pay to see it theatrically again, but only if it's edited together as one film and not simply the two parts glued together.

[Exslade ZX]

I'm not up on the ratings system.

 

So is NC-17 lower, or higher or the ratings scale then R?

[Mik]

It doesn't say wide, just NC-17.

 

I'd pay to see it theatrically again, but only if it's edited together as one film and not simply the two parts glued together.

 

^^^^^

 

Agreed.

[spman]

I'm not up on the ratings system.

 

So is NC-17 lower, or higher or the ratings scale then R?

NC-17 is higher then R and usually signifies graphic sex, or Passion of the CHrist levels of Violence. As most national theater chains in this country have "Family Friendly" policies when it comes to which films they show, very few theaters are willing to commit to running an NC-17 films. As such, most films that actually DO get released with such a rating are low budget arthouse pics dircted by filmmakers not willing to comprimise their artistic vision for a lower rating and more money. Any time a major studio backed film receives a rating of NC-17, they force the film makers to tone it down to an R so as to at least try and recoup some of the films original budget.

[Guest El Satanico]

I'm not up on the ratings system.

 

So is NC-17 lower, or higher or the ratings scale then R?

Higher...No one 17 and under permitted.

[LivingLegendGaryColeman]

I'm not up on the ratings system.

 

So is NC-17 lower, or higher or the ratings scale then R?

NC-17 is higher than R. NC-17 is no children under 17 whatsoever.

 

For R, you need to be 17 to get in by yourself, but with an adult, you can still go in.

 

NC-17 movies that were famous somewhat recently were Showgirls back in the mid-90s and Orgazmo, made by the guys who make South Park. There were a few others, but it is harder to get them into mainstream theaters.

[Guest El Satanico]

I believe Showgirls was the last widely released NC-17

[MarvinisaLunatic]

I'm not up on the ratings system.

 

So is NC-17 lower, or higher or the ratings scale then R?

NC-17 is higher then R and usually signifies graphic sex, or Passion of the CHrist levels of Violence. As most national theater chains in this country have "Family Friendly" policies when it comes to which films they show, very few theaters are willing to commit to running an NC-17 films. As such, most films that actually DO get released with such a rating are low budget arthouse pics dircted by filmmakers not willing to comprimise their artistic vision for a lower rating and more money. Any time a major studio backed film receives a rating of NC-17, they force the film makers to tone it down to an R so as to at least try and recoup some of the films original budget.

Well Id say they made their money back on the first two releases, so I cant see why they wouldn't go ahead with an NC 17 release.

 

And Id say Kill Bill would have more of a chance to get in more theatres too even with an NC 17 rating.

[Guest Vitamin X]

I'm not up on the ratings system.

 

So is NC-17 lower, or higher or the ratings scale then R?

NC-17 is higher then R and usually signifies graphic sex, or Passion of the CHrist levels of Violence. As most national theater chains in this country have "Family Friendly" policies when it comes to which films they show, very few theaters are willing to commit to running an NC-17 films. As such, most films that actually DO get released with such a rating are low budget arthouse pics dircted by filmmakers not willing to comprimise their artistic vision for a lower rating and more money. Any time a major studio backed film receives a rating of NC-17, they force the film makers to tone it down to an R so as to at least try and recoup some of the films original budget.

Yeah like Martin Lawrence's You So Crazy and the recent Johnny Knoxville pic A Dirty Shame!

[Guest El Satanico]

and the recent Johnny Knoxville pic A Dirty Shame!

Correction

 

The recent John Water's film A Dirty Shame, which according to what I hear the NC-17 for it was bullshit.

[NoCalMike]

Well kudos to me for holding off on buying the DVDs.....

[Guest JMA]

Well kudos to me for holding off on buying the DVDs.....

I decided to wait as well.

[Mole]

I must have missed something.

 

When did Disney get rid of Miramax?

[Precious Roy]

I'd pay to see it theatrically again, but only if it's edited together as one film and not simply the two parts glued together.

 

If I remember correctly the Japanese release was Tarantino's original vision, before he was convinced/coerced into splitting it into two films. I believe that the sequencing is quite different, there may be some footage cut/added, and again IIRC, I don't believe it contains the Anime segment from Vol. I

[Kahran Ramsus]

I must have missed something.

 

When did Disney get rid of Miramax?

The Weinsteins got into a big fight with Eisner and left Disney a few months ago.

[Nevermortal]

I believe Showgirls was the last widely released NC-17

Don't forget Crash with Elias Koteas, one of the most bizarre movies ever.

[Guest jm29195]

I don't know why the NC17 thing is such a big deal in America. Over here in the UK we're always having 18 (no one under the age of 18 can see them) films released on a nationwide basis......

[kkktookmybabyaway]

You know, when I was watching Kill Bill the first thing I thought of was that there needed to be more blood...

[AndrewTS]

I don't know why the NC17 thing is such a big deal in America. Over here in the UK we're always having 18 (no one under the age of 18 can see them) films released on a nationwide basis......

I agree, but there's a stigma attached to it, and very few studios want to release a film that would effectively remove the demos of people under 17. It's all about the $, ya know.

 

If studios could get away with it, they'd make all films that weren't kiddie fare PG-13. Hell, they'll stick a "shit" in an otherwise PG film to get the PG-13.

 

And before anyone asks, no it doesn't contain the Gogo backstory. I believe it was written, but I know it wasn't filmed.

[pochorenella]

Henry and June also got an NC-17 rating, IIRC. It featured a steamy lesbian scene with Uma Thurman and this other girl.

 

I guess I'm fucked 'cause I couldn't wait and got both Kill Bill DVDs when they came out.

[Guest Loss]

I bought both when they came out. I'll be getting this one too. No sweat off my back.

[Guest El Satanico]

I don't know why the NC17 thing is such a big deal in America.

 

We were kicked out of England because we were too uptight for the English...it continues

[Ripper]

Henry and June also got an NC-17 rating, IIRC. It featured a steamy lesbian scene with Uma Thurman and this other girl.

 

I guess I'm fucked 'cause I couldn't wait and got both Kill Bill DVDs when they came out.

It got the NC-17 rating becaue of that shot when she looked at the postcard of the japanese woman and the squid. The rest of it would have gotten a R rating.

[razazteca]

The ratings go like this:

 

G

PG

PG-13

R

NC-17

XXX

 

IMO most people think NC-17 as porn because it usually depicts graphic sex scenes but lately The Man who runs the MPAA tends to give NC-17 for excessive language (Clerks) which was bullshit or violence.

[spman]

It's all politics really. Sometimes the MPAA will give a film of NC-17 rating just out of spite for the director. For example everyhting Trey Parker and Matt Stone have ever done has gotten an NC-17 rating on it's initial cut, even if you can cite specific examples of movies that are far worse then theirs. It's just that the MPAA don't particularly like Parker amd Stone, and thus are more then willing to impede their success.

[Nighthawk]

The ratings go like this:

 

G

PG

PG-13

R

NC-17

XXX

 

IMO most people think NC-17 as porn because it usually depicts graphic sex scenes but lately The Man who runs the MPAA tends to give NC-17 for excessive language (Clerks) which was bullshit or violence.

XXX is not a real rating, it was invented by the porn industry. The MPAA used X, but it's been discontinued in favor of NC-17. X was the only rating you could give yourself, so porn movies were self rated and not submitted to the MPAA obviously. The association of X with porn is what caused them to drop it.

[Ravenbomb]

I just rented the first ones and copied them, so getting this one's not a problem

[Matt Young]

I just saw Part 2 last night and I really liked it. It was a lot better than Part 1. I'll hold off until the DVD release of the full version before I purchase now that I've heard this news.