Mexico finally speaks out on illegal immigration

[kkktookmybabyaway 0]

How about trying to improve your shithole of a country so your citizens don't have to risk life and limb to come over to the U.S. to make a living? Asshole...

 

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U.S. needs to watch extremists, Fox says

 

Chris Hawley

Republic Mexico City Bureau

Mar. 17, 2005 12:00 AM

 

MEXICO CITY - Anti-immigrant sentiment appears to be growing in the United States, Mexican President Vicente Fox said Wednesday, and he urged U.S. officials to act quickly to control movements such as the 950-member-strong Minuteman Project on the Mexico-Arizona border.

 

Fox said he plans to push for U.S. immigration reform during a meeting with President Bush in Texas next week. He also said the two leaders, along with Canadian Prime Minister Paul Martin, likely will announce a plan to expand the scope of the North American Free Trade Agreement.

 

Mexico's National Human Rights Commission recently issued a warning about several new grass-roots movements inspired by Arizona's Proposition 200. Other Mexican officials have cited the Minuteman Project, a plan by activists to patrol the border during April, as a sign of rising extremism.

 

"There are signs of these kinds of problems present today, and (they are) progressing," Fox said during a news conference for foreign reporters. "We have to act quickly and on time to prevent these kinds of actions."

 

He said Mexico is watching the Minuteman Project carefully and will take action in U.S. courts or international tribunals if any of the activists break the law.

 

Patrols start in April

 

"We totally reject the idea of these migrant-hunting groups," Fox said. "We will use the law, international law and even U.S. law to make sure that these types of groups, which are a minority . . . will not have any opportunity to progress."

 

Organizers of the Minuteman Project say they have signed up more than 950 volunteers, including 30 pilots with aircraft, to patrol the border for 30 days beginning April 1. The activists say they will notify the Border Patrol if they see border crossers and will not confront them directly.

 

Minuteman co-organizer Chris Simcox said participants are exercising their constitutional rights.

 

"Vicente Fox can rant and rave all he wants, but he obviously doesn't understand what a democracy means," Simcox said. "We have been working within the law."

 

'Walls don't work'

 

Fox also harshly criticized the construction of walls along the border, including a new "triple fence" planned for the San Diego area.

 

"We are convinced that walls don't work. They should be torn down," he said. "No country that is proud of itself should build walls. No one can isolate himself these days."

 

Fox said he understood Americans' concern about protecting their southern border. But he dismissed fears that terrorists have sneaked into the United States through Mexico. "We have absolutely no evidence of that," he said.

 

Fox will meet with Bush and Martin next Wednesday at Baylor University in Waco, Texas, and at Bush's ranch in nearby Crawford. It's an effort to get North American cooperation back on track after the Iraq and Afghanistan wars.

 

Plan on Social Security

 

Fox said he will push for action on a "guest worker" program in the United States. He said that the U.S. population is aging and will need Mexican labor in the future and that turning millions of undocumented Mexicans into legal, taxpaying workers could help keep the Social Security system afloat.

 

The three leaders likely will announce a plan aimed at further integrating their countries' economies to compete against other trade blocs, Fox said. He called it a "new vision" that will not change the existing treaty.

 

It will include new border-security measures, ways to share customs duties, and a continentwide energy policy, he said. Other sections will focus on education, technology and the financial sectors, he said.

 

NAFTA's critics say the 1994 trade pact has cost American manufacturing jobs while hurting Mexican farmers. But Fox said the average Mexican income has more than doubled, to $6,505 a year.

 

Fox said the boom of assembly plants along the border has actually helped stop illegal border crossing by providing jobs for people who would have gone to the United States.

 

"That's also part of security on the border, to have this cushion where people can find a job on the Mexican side," he said.

[Guest CronoT]

Yet more evidence that Vicente Fox is on crack.

[CheesalaIsGood 0]

So IS there any evidence of terrorists coming over the border through mexico?

[Guest CronoT]

So IS there any evidence of terrorists coming over the border through mexico?

There is proof that some of them tried to come into the US through Florida. I don't think Fox cares if the US dies or not. Whether you want to believe it or not, in less than 20 years, the controlling majority of the US public will be either Hispanics, illegal aliens, or illegally residing Mexican Nationals.

[Vyce 0]

So IS there any evidence of terrorists coming over the border through mexico?

There's evidence, yes. I think one of the groups who's responsible for helping terrorists into the country is MaraSalvatrucha, aka MS-13, one of the more violent and notorious Latin gangs in the country. I live in Northern VA, and those fuckers are EVERYWHERE around here.

 

Whether you want to believe it or not, in less than 20 years, the controlling majority of the US public will be either Hispanics, illegal aliens, or illegally residing Mexican Nationals.

 

I believe the estimates are realistically more of that happening around 2050 or so.

 

Hopefully, forty-five years from now, when I'm pushing 70, I'll have made my fortunes and shall be able to peacefully relocate somewhere else.

[Guest MikeSC]

So IS there any evidence of terrorists coming over the border through mexico?

It's absolutely irrelevant --- since they shouldn't be coming over REGARDLESS.

 

I'd rather not take the chance on Paco BorderJumper.

-=Mike

[kkktookmybabyaway 0]

I believe the estimates are realistically more of that happening around 2050 or so.

That's what I've traditionally heard, too, but figures can change -- look at the original predicted costs of Medicare for 1990+ and look at how much it costs now (and don't get me started on W's added programs for this program)...

[Big Ol' Smitty 0]

I believe the estimates are realistically more of that happening around 2050 or so.

That's what I've traditionally heard, too, but figures can change -- look at the original predicted costs of Medicare for 1990+ and look at how much it costs now (and don't get me started on W's added programs for this program)...

Are a bunch of elderly Mexicans crossing the border?

[Ripper 0]

Blah blah blah blah blah.

 

 

blah blah.

 

 

blah.

 

 

Ripper - Supports mexicans making it across the border.

[Jobber of the Week 0]

Hopefully, forty-five years from now, when I'm pushing 70, I'll have made my fortunes and shall be able to peacefully relocate somewhere else.

Boy, that doesn't sound prejudiced.

 

"All these damn Latinos just won't go away! I guess I better get the hell outta Dodge before they get all uppity or something."

[Ripper 0]

Its not like he is going to be able to run because pretty soon all these Latinos are going to KILL america, according to Chrono T.

[kkktookmybabyaway 0]

Hopefully, forty-five years from now, when I'm pushing 70, I'll have made my fortunes and shall be able to peacefully relocate somewhere else.

Boy, that doesn't sound prejudiced.

I thought he was talking about moving to another country -- then that would make him un-American...

[Dr. Tom 0]

So IS there any evidence of terrorists coming over the border through mexico?

There doesn't need to be. The fact is that it would be absurdly easy for terrorists to get into the US from Mexico. That alone is enough reason to seriously upgrade border security and crack down on illegals coming across.

[The Czech Republic 0]

So IS there any evidence of terrorists coming over the border through mexico?

There is proof that some of them tried to come into the US through Florida. I don't think Fox cares if the US dies or not. Whether you want to believe it or not, in less than 20 years, the controlling majority of the US public will be either Hispanics, illegal aliens, or illegally residing Mexican Nationals.

Well then let's start a campaign to get middle-class white couples to start having kids again. Fuck your careers, and fuck > your careers.

[Ripper 0]

I wonder why economist don't love the idea of illegal mexicans in the US anyway. You know, they way they love outsourcing and convince everyone its great for this country.

 

Isn't giving the lower range jobs to people in other countries so that we can concentrate on creating new industry supposed to be a good thing. Well, with illegals, we are doing the same thing only we are putting the money back into our own economy. Its like outsourcing with all the economical perks of keeping the jobs at home. Its win win people!!!

[The Czech Republic 0]

yah but they dont speak american

[The Czech Republic 0]

By the way I don't really care if they come in if they contribute to the economy and society and so on. Land of opportunity, right?

[Slayer 0]

Ripper's been hanging around Popick apparently

[The Czech Republic 0]

Ripper - mentioning that he's an economist at every given moment since 2005

[Vyce 0]

Hopefully, forty-five years from now, when I'm pushing 70, I'll have made my fortunes and shall be able to peacefully relocate somewhere else.

Boy, that doesn't sound prejudiced.

 

"All these damn Latinos just won't go away! I guess I better get the hell outta Dodge before they get all uppity or something."

Oh, you know me well enough to know when I'm joking.

 

Although truthfully I'm going to be mighty pissed if I turn 70 and have to relearn Spanish just to converse in the public discourse.

[NoCalMike 0]

The problem with immigration policies is that neither side is really interested in doing anything about it, because they both benefit greatly from illegal immigration, whether you will ever get them to admit it, is another story, but it is true. The political parties may pay some minor lip service to interested people, but other then that, nothing changes.

[Vyce 0]

The problem with immigration policies is that neither side is really interested in doing anything about it, because they both benefit greatly from illegal immigration, whether you will ever get them to admit it, is another story, but it is true. The political parties may pay some minor lip service to interested people, but other then that, nothing changes.

That is EXACTLY the problem. I'm surprised that, of all the issues that people get riled up about these days, that this isn't the one that outrages people the most.

 

If anyone is interested in this topic, please watch Lou Dobbs every weeknight. He's good for covering this issue for at least half of his program.

[SuperJerk 0]

So...let me get this straight...

 

The President of Mexico WANTS people to leave his country for the United States?

 

I'm having trouble wrapping my head around just how fucked up that is.

[kkktookmybabyaway 0]

Oh hell yeah. It's been established a long time ago that the Mexican government encourage their people to leave and head for the slaughterhouses and lettuce fields of America...

[SuperJerk 0]

Ah, yes, I believe its because they want that steady stream of U.S. dollars mailed back to Mexican relatives.

 

Makes sense now.

[Guest MikeSC]

I wonder why economist don't love the idea of illegal mexicans in the US anyway. You know, they way they love outsourcing and convince everyone its great for this country.

 

Isn't giving the lower range jobs to people in other countries so that we can concentrate on creating new industry supposed to be a good thing. Well, with illegals, we are doing the same thing only we are putting the money back into our own economy. Its like outsourcing with all the economical perks of keeping the jobs at home. Its win win people!!!

Who said they love it?

 

You can recognize something as important and not love it.

 

I don't love prostate exams. Doesn't make them less needed.

-=Mike

[Dr. Tom 0]

I don't love prostate exams.

Lies.

 

[Shooting Star 0]

Damn mexicans should just stay in their damn country and that goes for everyone except Cubans and Puerto Ricans. They make us the ones who stay look like we are also dirt poor.

[Jobber of the Week 0]

They make us the ones who stay look like we are also dirt poor.

Well, I don't think you can blame immigrants for making you look like you're uneducated with a sentence like that.

 

Too bad you didn't criticise them for not speaking Enligsh. The irony would have been thicker than a McDonalds milkshake.