Gary Floyd 0 Report post Posted March 20, 2005 This kicks serious ass. That is all. Hopefully, he'll be able to do something in the WWE, mid-carder or not Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Youth N Asia 0 Report post Posted March 20, 2005 Good for Marty, he's had two tv matches in the last god knows how many years, and they were decient. The tag division is such crap right now that the Rockers might not be a bad idea Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spaceman Spiff 0 Report post Posted March 20, 2005 Ask them the same thing about Viscera. Jannetty is there probably to do one angle then fill up space on the B-Show. Vis is on a pay-per-apperance deal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest LooneyTune Report post Posted March 20, 2005 I know, but he's still taking up space on the WWE programs. He even wrestles tonight IIRC (vs. Simon Dean). I don't understand that pairing at all. Edit: As in Heel vs. Heel. I know he's really fat. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Coffey Report post Posted March 20, 2005 I don't know, I'm still not seeing this as a good thing. I mean, so far, Jannetty has come in and lost to Angle. Yeah, he won a tag match with HBK on Raw, but on his own, he hasn't done anything in years. That means he's going to have to be built up. Why? Well, because otherwise when someone beats him it isn't going to mean anything. So, if someone like Chris Masters or Muhammed Hussan were to go over Marty on Raw tomorrow, who would care? If Marty were any type of threat, it might matter. So, either he'll be a jobber, or we'll have to sit through Marty Jannetty going over wrestlers on WWE TV in 2005 so as to build him up for a fall. I guess I'm still middle of the road about how I feel about this. I can't think of anyone that Jannetty could go over where it wouldn't look bad to the loser. Then again, using my example of Hussan & Masters above, I don't really care if Jannetty is built up for them. He'll probably just eat boot from Snitsky then go 50/50 on Heat anyway. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Shadow Report post Posted March 20, 2005 I'm pretty sure he got the deal because he can still go and would be a decent place filler JTTS and likely shawn requested it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Styles 0 Report post Posted March 20, 2005 I don't know, I'm still not seeing this as a good thing. I mean, so far, Jannetty has come in and lost to Angle. Yeah, he won a tag match with HBK on Raw, but on his own, he hasn't done anything in years. Spoiler: WRESTLING IS FAKE!!!!!!! You're not actually counting wins and losses are you!?! He's gotten into excellent shape, and proved he can work circles around most of the untalented lugheads in the WWE midcard. The match with Angle was PPV quality, Marty hit the right notes in his comebacks, kickouts, even the way he delayed tapping out was excellent. He still "gets it". No one said they're going to build him for some huge push or something. He's just getting a steady job and money as a reward for his years of work and the way he's rebounded his life. He'll likely be used to put over some guys anyway... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Slickster 0 Report post Posted March 20, 2005 I'm going to predict that HBK will win at WM, then win the World Tags with Marty at Backlash. Then, they will split (probably with a 'Barber Shop 2005' angle) and they will face each other in a red-hot blowoff at either June's Vengeance PPV or SummerSlam, depending on how over the Rockers remain as a tag team. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Coffey Report post Posted March 20, 2005 Spoiler: WRESTLING IS FAKE! You're a fucking idiot. You know goddamn well what I mean. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Styles 0 Report post Posted March 20, 2005 Spoiler: WRESTLING IS FAKE! You're a fucking idiot. You know goddamn well what I mean. No, I don't. He doesnt' deserve a contract because he hasn't won any high profile matches is what you said. You're obviously missing the point entirely... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sass 0 Report post Posted March 20, 2005 I hope, for his own sake, that Marty stays clean this time around. Stick him and Michaels together and give them the RAW tag belts. Let the Rockers reunion roll on. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest LooneyTune Report post Posted March 20, 2005 I think putting Marty on RAW is the best idea. On RAW, he has Shawns support to help keep him clean (which has always been a lingering "demon" for him). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dark Age 0 Report post Posted March 20, 2005 The difference is, Marty is a better, more experienced worker, much more over, and a character people CARE about, unlike the Heat guys. No. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest LooneyTune Report post Posted March 20, 2005 The difference is, Marty is a better, more experienced worker, much more over, and a character people CARE about, unlike the Heat guys. No. I'd remove the last few, but he is a better WRESTLER than Shawn. Shawn has always been more about spots than actual wrestling. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Enigma 0 Report post Posted March 20, 2005 Marty should throw HBK head-first through the insanely, grotesquely expensive Jeritron 5000. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dark Age 0 Report post Posted March 20, 2005 The difference is, Marty is a better, more experienced worker, much more over, and a character people CARE about, unlike the Heat guys. No. I'd remove the last few, but he is a better WRESTLER than Shawn. Shawn has always been more about spots than actual wrestling. I'm not talking about Shawn. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Tino Standard 0 Report post Posted March 20, 2005 I don't know, I'm still not seeing this as a good thing. I mean, so far, Jannetty has come in and lost to Angle. Yeah, he won a tag match with HBK on Raw, but on his own, he hasn't done anything in years. That means he's going to have to be built up. Why? Well, because otherwise when someone beats him it isn't going to mean anything. So, if someone like Chris Masters or Muhammed Hussan were to go over Marty on Raw tomorrow, who would care? If Marty were any type of threat, it might matter. See, he's over like Rover because of name recognition, not a win-loss record. If people cared THAT much about who's going over who and wins/losses, then guys like Jericho wouldn't be over at all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Coffey Report post Posted March 20, 2005 I'm just saying that his novelty will wear off. I mean, when the biggest thing people remember about your career is when your teammate beat you up, that should mean something. Yes, I know wrestling is worked. Still, to say that wins and losses don't matter is silly. They don't matter when you're already at the top, like Steve Austin & The Rock were. They damn sure matter on the climb to the top though. Ask Booker T. Ask Rob Van Dam. Yeah, he was over on Raw. So was Jake. It was a "hey, I remember him. Neat surprise" over. It wasn't a "hey, I remember Jannetty. He's really credible in this day and age and I assume he's a threat" over. He didn't get the Goldberg debut pop or the Jericho debut pop. He got the "Hall of Fame inductee" pop. I don't know if I put into words exactly what I'm trying to say, but I think that should give you the gest of it. Jannetty's credibility is that people remember him. If he doesn't get some wins, no one will care about him. Him getting wins would upset me because I don't think he should just come in and go over the younger talent. Him not being built up, means that when he loses, he doesn't have credibility. It means he's also not giving anyone the rub. It'd be a throwaway match. Does that makes sense? Jannetty has to show that he still brings something to the table. From a marks perspective. Also, Slapnuts, I shouldn't have cussed you. I apologize. I guess I was mad because I typed that out trying to explain myself and the following reply ridiculed me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
natey2k4 0 Report post Posted March 20, 2005 It's quite funny how much of a Verbal Blow-Job Jannetty recieved all over this board and now that he's signed, it's almost 50/50... Does that mean if AJ or Daniels were to sign, all the hyping and loving you give them would turn the same way? Because in my books their the same as Jannetty.. Jannetty showed he still has it.. and he can bring the fans into a match unlike most wrestlers. He even sold the ankle, I mean that was awesome. No one else would of. The way he delayed the tap-out was great as well, the counters he used to get out, all great. He's creative. And its fun seeing him back.. and Yes I know AJ and Daniels are probably better wrestlers then Jannetty. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisMWaters 0 Report post Posted March 20, 2005 For those of you here who are wanting a Rockers Tag Team run... Would you want them to beat Regal and Tajiri in a face team vs. face team match...or have the belts hot shotted to La Res or Christian and Tomko (assuming Christian doesn't win the Ladder match thing) and have the Rockers beat one of those teams? EDIT: Oh, and I have a feeling they will go, at least for a little while, with The Rockers as a team. I mean hell, why else would they make such an expensive and elaborate Titantron video for THE ROCKERS when they were just scheduled to team for one night only? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
natey2k4 0 Report post Posted March 21, 2005 were the Rockers ever a heel tag team? EDIT: and with what Chris brings up.. I think they should move the Tag Division over to RAW.. and let the cruiserweights be focused more on SD. That way both divisions would mean something. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisMWaters 0 Report post Posted March 21, 2005 were the Rockers ever a heel tag team? EDIT: and with what Chris brings up.. I think they should move the Tag Division over to RAW.. and let the cruiserweights be focused more on SD. That way both divisions would mean something. Original...don't think so. The NEW Rockers, on the other hand... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
natey2k4 0 Report post Posted March 21, 2005 The New Rockers?... Please.. lets just forget about them... if they were faces they could of gotten over just fine.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisMWaters 0 Report post Posted March 21, 2005 The New Rockers?... Please.. lets just forget about them... if they were faces they could of gotten over just fine.. ...that makes me wanna go back in time and make a stable of Michaels, Jannetty and Snow (in Leif Cassady mode) In the fine tradition of Casey and the Sunshine Band, Jessie and the Rippers, Jem and the Holograms...it's MICHAELS AND THE NEW ROCKERS! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Styles 0 Report post Posted March 21, 2005 Also, Slapnuts, I shouldn't have cussed you. I apologize. I guess I was mad because I typed that out trying to explain myself and the following reply ridiculed me. Don't worry about it. Rewatch the Smackdown match with Angle if you can. Like I explained, yes, RAW was about the novelty pop, but it was on Smackdown where Jannety got a PPV quality match out of Angle for the best Smackdown match in a long time. His timing, comebacks, selling, kickouts everything had that aura of a wrestler that "gets" how to work and shows he'll be a valuable member of the roster as a veteran who can mentor and teach the young wrestlers at best and at least get some good matches out of them at the worst. Even beyond all that, the man turned his life around and has kept in tremendous shape, and for that deserves the reward of a WWE job... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
justcoz 0 Report post Posted March 21, 2005 I'd put Marty on Smackdown and have him get some wins on that show. Maybe team him with someone like Paul London and get a tag title reign. Then have Shawn Michaels get traded over to Smackdown and start running the show. Annoying Marty by giving him advice before matches and mentoring London, essentially stealing Marty's spot pretty much. This will cause him to flip out and turn on HBK leading to another feud between the two. Or maybe not. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dark Age 0 Report post Posted March 21, 2005 BTW people, Rey/Angle was far better than MJ/Angle. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest LooneyTune Report post Posted March 21, 2005 All a matter of opinion. I enjoyed both matches equally. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Tino Standard 0 Report post Posted March 21, 2005 I'm just saying that his novelty will wear off. I mean, when the biggest thing people remember about your career is when your teammate beat you up, that should mean something. Yes, I know wrestling is worked. Still, to say that wins and losses don't matter is silly. They don't matter when you're already at the top, like Steve Austin & The Rock were. They damn sure matter on the climb to the top though. Ask Booker T. Ask Rob Van Dam. Yeah, he was over on Raw. So was Jake. It was a "hey, I remember him. Neat surprise" over. It wasn't a "hey, I remember Jannetty. He's really credible in this day and age and I assume he's a threat" over. He didn't get the Goldberg debut pop or the Jericho debut pop. He got the "Hall of Fame inductee" pop. I don't know if I put into words exactly what I'm trying to say, but I think that should give you the gest of it. Jannetty's credibility is that people remember him. If he doesn't get some wins, no one will care about him. Him getting wins would upset me because I don't think he should just come in and go over the younger talent. Him not being built up, means that when he loses, he doesn't have credibility. It means he's also not giving anyone the rub. It'd be a throwaway match. Does that makes sense? Jannetty has to show that he still brings something to the table. From a marks perspective. Also, Slapnuts, I shouldn't have cussed you. I apologize. I guess I was mad because I typed that out trying to explain myself and the following reply ridiculed me. I see where you're coming from, and I don't think you have much to worry about. It's not like he's coming in to burn up the midcard and go over a bunch of guys. I mean, this is Marty Jannetty. Yeah, he knows how to work a quality match, and he's a fun novelty for longtime fans, but just a month or two ago, this guy was working matches at Laura's Roller Skating Emporium in Painesville, Ohio (and no, I'm not making that up). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Rrrsh Report post Posted March 21, 2005 BTW people, Rey/Angle was far better than MJ/Angle. Angle-Cena beats them both. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites