Ripper 0 Report post Posted March 28, 2005 So yeah, I saw the Village yesterday, and I have to say this movie kicked alot of ass, but I remember it taking a shit kicking from the critics and everyone for it being "stupid" or "not scary". Then I remembered the same shit storm over Unbreakable(which I also thought kicked ass) and Signs (which, once again, I think kicked ass only to a lesser degree). Basically I have liked/loved every film he has made since 1999 yet it seems everyone keeps waiting for that Sixth Sense ending or something. When I heard people say that the "suprise TWIST" at the end of Unbreakable was lame, I was a little puzzled by the end. There wasn't anything twisty about that ending. it was a climax to a movie. Then they talked about the TWIST ending in Signs, and once again...that wasn't a twist. It was a fucking ending. The Village, yeah, you can say that the ending was twisty, but it was a kick ass twist. I think his movies are judged off of what people think they should be (a Sixth Sense) clone instead of what they are. The Village was a romantic period piece that was pulled off very well in my eyes, and is very underrated. People fault it for not being a SUPER SCARY HORROR movie, and well to that I say...So what it wasn't scary. it was damn good movie. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Black Lushus 0 Report post Posted March 28, 2005 I liked Unbreakable...to me it was great to see what a "real life" superhero would do and how he would adjust to the powers and the responsibility...Bruce didn't wear flashy tights or come up with some silly name, he just went out and did good deeds... i haven't seen Signs or The Village yet... Sixth Sense is overrated, but good... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Coffey Report post Posted March 28, 2005 I have to disagree. I've hated all of his movies except for Unbreakable. Hell, I thought Stir of Echoes was better than Sixth Sense. The Village? Oh man, I'll never even think about watching that piece of shit again...let alone recommend it for others to view. My brother bought Signs on DVD. I slapped him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Golgo 13 0 Report post Posted March 28, 2005 Unbreakable is great. I didn't see The Village and didn't care much for Signs and the vastly overrated Sixth Sense. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kkktookmybabyaway 0 Report post Posted March 28, 2005 Interesting. I'll have to watch the Village now. Don't let me down, Ripper... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jingus 0 Report post Posted March 28, 2005 Shyamalan's work seems to affect evreybody differently. I loved Sixth Sense and Unbreakable, thought Signs was okay but flawed, and still aren't sure exactly how I feel about The Village. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Matt Young 0 Report post Posted March 28, 2005 I like Shyamalan's movies. Unbreakable is my favorite since I mark for Bruce Willis and superheroes. The Village, however, was the absolute worst movie I have ever seen in my life... and I've seen almost every Hulk Hogan movie. It came out on my birthday last year and I went to see it the following day, expecting greatness judging by the commercials. Instead, themovie was 2 hours of the most boring, uneventful bullshit of all time followed by the worst, most nonsensical, purely for "shock" value ending ever conceived. The Village= -7/10 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jingus 0 Report post Posted March 28, 2005 I think a lot of people were pissed off because the twist ending was such a massive twist. It changed the entire story of the movie much, much more than even the one in Sixth Sense and made the real plot into something that was completely, 180 different from what we thought it was. The movie was marketed as a historical horror flick about villagers in a siege against monsters from the woods, and the ending kinda pulled the rug out from under that whole premise. Also, some people, like me, were probably just mad cuz the monsters turned out to not be real. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Agent of Oblivion Report post Posted March 28, 2005 I haven't watched the villiage because I know I'd hate it, but probably not as much as I hated Signs. These goddamn aliens came all the way across GALAXIES to conquer our planet, lined up in very specific attack formations and shit prepping for an invasion.. Yet they can't get through a locked wooden door, and their weakness is water. Yeah, those are spoliers, but the movie fuckin' sucked. You're better off just reading my post, because it'll be quicker. WATER. I yelled aloud in the theater "They're afraid of fucking WATER? That's just like his other shitty movie with the dork who can't swim! Christ, this planet's COVERED in the shit.." Not to mention the fact that the martians are out running around in cornfields and country backyards at night. Now, being a hillbilly, I can attest that those places at that time of year, at that time of day, in that part of the country, get slick with fucking dew, meaning Clateau and Marvin are going to be sizzling like breakfast meats trying to get into some kid's window. (gosh, but what if it's LOCKED?) Shitty shitty horrible movie, and anyone who likes it is a retard. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ripper 0 Report post Posted March 28, 2005 I haven't watched the villiage because I know I'd hate it, but probably not as much as I hated Signs. These goddamn aliens came all the way across GALAXIES to conquer our planet, lined up in very specific attack formations and shit prepping for an invasion.. Yet they can't get through a locked wooden door, and their weakness is water. Yeah, those are spoliers, but the movie fuckin' sucked. You're better off just reading my post, because it'll be quicker. WATER. I yelled aloud in the theater "They're afraid of fucking WATER? That's just like his other shitty movie with the dork who can't swim! Christ, this planet's COVERED in the shit.." Not to mention the fact that the martians are out running around in cornfields and country backyards at night. Now, being a hillbilly, I can attest that those places at that time of year, at that time of day, in that part of the country, get slick with fucking dew, meaning Clateau and Marvin are going to be sizzling like breakfast meats trying to get into some kid's window. (gosh, but what if it's LOCKED?) Shitty shitty horrible movie, and anyone who likes it is a retard. Well EXCUSE me for not having hillbilly knowledge that would debunk so much of the film. I liked the movie. I think you didn't like the movie because the little girl kept insulting water...thus Nature. It was just the hippie coming out of you. .. hippie. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2GOLD 0 Report post Posted March 28, 2005 The aliens really needed a better recon team. Unless they weren't aware water could hurt them cause they had never seen the stuff before, which is entirely possible. M. Night should consider doing a prequel where he explains how the aliens could miss the fact water hurts them. Unbreakable wasn't bad, Sixth Sense is overrated predictable crap, and The Village is just there. He has his moments but overall, M. Night is just an average filmmaker. Not bad, not great but he has enough good in his work to say he should keep working. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Edwin MacPhisto 0 Report post Posted March 28, 2005 The Village was one of the cheapest, most abysmal excuses for a film I've seen. Awful script that relies on gimmickry, designed solely to deceive the audience in ways that don't even make sense. My big gripe, copied from what I said about it back in August was always the retarded insistence that it’s 1897. Why would any of this matter? The “elders” have created a society that’s entirely separated from the rest of the world. There is no comparison point; unless we’re intended to extrapolate that all the elders are some dorky LARP fans, there’s no reason for them to effect that formal, stiff, self-consciously ancient style of speaking, nor is there any reason for them to arbitrarily decide that their little village will occur in the 19th century. Call it 1897 or call it the year 8000; how will time period or an era mean anything to a generation of children without a frame of reference? It's trickery aimed at no one but the audience, and it is neither clever nor ultimately honest enough to be seen as anything but lazy filmmaking. It's also really dumb. I kinda liked Signs for being so weird; not as a serious movie, but Joaquin Phoenix in the foil hat and the similarly retarded weakness of the aliens just made it this bizarre exercise in incredibly low-impact terror. Can't say the same about The Village. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
notJames 0 Report post Posted March 28, 2005 Count me in the "completely underwhelmed by the 'works' of M. Night Shyamalan" category. Boring, boring, boring, with Signs being the worst offender. I won't even consider watching the Village unless I get the Clockwork Orange treatment. And even then I'll try to poke my eyes out with my tongue. Feh. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AmericanDragon 0 Report post Posted March 28, 2005 But Unbreakable still owned. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kkktookmybabyaway 0 Report post Posted March 28, 2005 Oh, and regarding what I think of M.'s previous work -- I liked Signs (B/B+), but I enjoyed the whole "coincidence or God's plan" storyline more than the aliens attacking. Sixth Sense ©was there (I knew the ending 15 minutes in), and I never saw Unbreakable... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest CronoT Report post Posted March 28, 2005 Signs is an insult to legitimate Sci-Fi everywhere. Shyamalan's movie-making and directing style has been exposed, so unless he makes a radical shift in his style, his movies are just going to lose money, like a hemorrhaging blood vessel. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kkktookmybabyaway 0 Report post Posted March 28, 2005 Was Signs supposed to be Sci-Fi? I didn't consider it to be as such (hits refresh button 500 times)... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Precious Roy 0 Report post Posted March 28, 2005 bizarre exercise in incredibly low-impact terror Haahahaha, that's spot on Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Metal Maniac 0 Report post Posted March 28, 2005 Signs is technically Science Fiction, but it's not very GOOD science fiction. Because while there is no guarantee that an alien would have any idea how to operate a locked door (I mean, they come from a planet which may not even HAVE doors; no matter how smart they are, they're not gonna just assume that this big brown thing is a way to get somewhere else if they've never encountered anything else like it before) you can't escape the fact that, with a weakness to water, the aliens would have been dead long before they ever got to do ANYTHING. I mean, there's water in the AIR, people. And while the aliens may not have realized that water would harm them before landing on the planet, you'd think they'd try to figure out just what that stuff that covers 2/3's of the planet they're trying to invade is. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ripper 0 Report post Posted March 28, 2005 See, i think alot of people are kinda saying what I mean in here. People are calling movies like Signs bad because it was bad horror. Well...MAYBE because it wasn't a horror movie. and edwin, since I don't know how to do spoiler tags I will just talk in a way that only those that saw the film will get. The elders never insisted on that. It was never mentioned in word, only with a little overlay at the start of the film. The reason for the actions you mentioned in the film had to do with the head guys occupation. Geez...someone show me how to do spoiler tags...this is hard. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pochorenella 0 Report post Posted March 28, 2005 I didn't like The Village, and I can understand all the negative sentiments towards it. How the movie was marketed when it came out has very much to do with the abismal reactions it had/has, even though it made over $100 at the BO so it's not really a bomb. Trying to pass it as a horror period piece was totally wrong. Sorry, Ripper. The only good thing I got watching that movie was my lady friend huggin' me all the while 'cause she was so scared. Sings seems to get the most mixed reactions. It's second only to Sixth Sense at the Box Office, but still gets panned a lot. Me? I liked it, I own it on DVD, and I like the WarOfTheWorlds-esque solution at the end. I see it more as a movie about a man trying to find back his way, to regain his faith. I guess others see it as a bad sci-fi/suspense movie. Sixth Sense I liked, the twist ending caught me totally off-guard in a good way. Haley Joel Osment is a terrific actor, no question. And all those details about the color red in the movie really makes you figure out a lot of things on second viewing. Unbreakable is no doubt my favorite of the bunch. I also own it on DVD, and maybe is my love of comic-books talking but I think the movie works on so many levels. Take a closer look at the color representations, too, and you'll see the attention for detail on this one. The so-called twist ending is anything but that, it's just an ending, period. A terrific ending, mind you. That's my two cents. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Beingz0wningj00 Report post Posted March 28, 2005 Unbreakable was enjoyable. Sixth Sense did catch me... Signs was rather meh. As for the village... most of the comments here echo a lot of my sentiments towards it... but I will say this. If it was supposed to be a horror movie, why was it marketed as such, heck... even the atmosphere in the movie screamed it out loud. I kept waiting for some creepy thing to fuck everything up, and they teased that...oh did they ever tease that. They teased it so much, that by after the first hour I got fed up... fell asleep and woke up to see this Park ranger talking to the blind chick. Fucking Dumb. The end. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mystery Eskimo 0 Report post Posted March 28, 2005 Also, some people, like me, were probably just mad cuz the monsters turned out to not be real. Totally. The second that was revealed, I just sighed. A twist is supposed to add interest to a movie, not remove it. Not to mention the sheer stupidity of the crazy guy just happening to find a spare monster costume to provide cheap "oh, maybe they are real after all" nonsense in a vague attempt to bring back some of the blown tension Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ripper 0 Report post Posted March 28, 2005 for the love of shit, I go through all of that to find spoiler tags and you could have at least used them. and the ones I got aren't working. And the director of "The Jacket" is pissed off right now about his movie being presented as a horror. Mismarketing is a very common problem, but honestly, what do you think would sell more from the studio standpoint....a romantic period piece or a M. Night Shyamalan HORROR movie. Studios are in it to make money, and but I think if people went in thinking it was a romance, then they would have possibly appreciated it more. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Metal Maniac 0 Report post Posted March 28, 2005 Doing spoilers is exactly like doing quotes, only you put the word "spoiler" in the brackets, instead of quote. See? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ted the Poster 0 Report post Posted March 28, 2005 I thought The Village was just abysmal. I mean, when WILLIAM HURT sucks in a movie, you should know there's a problem. I guessed the twists from the trailer alone. How you didn't see those coming, Ripper, I can't understand. Adrien Brody's retard character was the only decent acting in that movie. The fact that Jaoquin "I whisper in a convuluted attempt to display emotion" Phoenix is going to play the role of Johnny Cash truly frightens me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Special K 0 Report post Posted March 28, 2005 I'll chime in. Sixth sense's twist got too much attention, (and was obvious in my mind) if you take it as a somewhat scary, moody movie, with good acting from Willis and Osmont, it's just fine. Unbreakable owned. Good acting, slow-build story that made you care about the characters, and the 'twist' is completely logical and satisfying. Didn't see Signs or The VIllage, from what I've heard about the Village though, it sounds terrible. Of course, I can't judge since i haven't seen it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Edwin MacPhisto 0 Report post Posted March 28, 2005 The elders never insisted on that. It was never mentioned in word, only with a little overlay at the start of the film. The reason for the actions you mentioned in the film had to do with the head guys occupation. For me, the fact that the tombstone (of Brendan Gleeson's son, the very first few shots of the film) said "1890-1897" was a surefire, factual representation of when the time was, and had no reason to use those false dates otherwise. I guess as a "psychological experiment" the adopting stuffy puritan ways makes sense, but there's still no explanation for the need to pretend to be in the 19th century unless William Hurt and company really needed that to remind them that, yeah, you're not supposed to be in 1970 and beyond. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Arnold_OldSchool Report post Posted March 28, 2005 I haven't watched the villiage because I know I'd hate it, but probably not as much as I hated Signs. These goddamn aliens came all the way across GALAXIES to conquer our planet, lined up in very specific attack formations and shit prepping for an invasion.. Yet they can't get through a locked wooden door, and their weakness is water. Yeah, those are spoliers, but the movie fuckin' sucked. You're better off just reading my post, because it'll be quicker. WATER. I yelled aloud in the theater "They're afraid of fucking WATER? That's just like his other shitty movie with the dork who can't swim! Christ, this planet's COVERED in the shit.." Not to mention the fact that the martians are out running around in cornfields and country backyards at night. Now, being a hillbilly, I can attest that those places at that time of year, at that time of day, in that part of the country, get slick with fucking dew, meaning Clateau and Marvin are going to be sizzling like breakfast meats trying to get into some kid's window. (gosh, but what if it's LOCKED?) Shitty shitty horrible movie, and anyone who likes it is a retard. The water was a symbol for holy water (Note the glasses being left in 3's for the 3 person's in one god) and the aliens were symbols for Demons Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Art Sandusky 0 Report post Posted March 28, 2005 I haven't watched the villiage because I know I'd hate it, but probably not as much as I hated Signs. These goddamn aliens came all the way across GALAXIES to conquer our planet, lined up in very specific attack formations and shit prepping for an invasion.. Yet they can't get through a locked wooden door, and their weakness is water. Yeah, those are spoliers, but the movie fuckin' sucked. You're better off just reading my post, because it'll be quicker. WATER. I yelled aloud in the theater "They're afraid of fucking WATER? That's just like his other shitty movie with the dork who can't swim! Christ, this planet's COVERED in the shit.." Not to mention the fact that the martians are out running around in cornfields and country backyards at night. Now, being a hillbilly, I can attest that those places at that time of year, at that time of day, in that part of the country, get slick with fucking dew, meaning Clateau and Marvin are going to be sizzling like breakfast meats trying to get into some kid's window. (gosh, but what if it's LOCKED?) Shitty shitty horrible movie, and anyone who likes it is a retard. The water was a symbol for holy water (Note the glasses being left in 3's for the 3 person's in one god) and the aliens were symbols for Demons I'm tempted to ban you for trying to defend that piece of shit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
