SuperJerk Posted April 24, 2005 Report Posted April 24, 2005 If someone shouted "Allah Ackbar!" before blowing up a restaurant, there would be a whole additional set of laws, punishments, investigational tools, etc that open up thanks to anti-terrorism law. "It's a trap!"
Edwin MacPhisto Posted April 25, 2005 Report Posted April 25, 2005 That should really be in capital letters for maximum effect, I think.
lomasmoney Posted April 25, 2005 Report Posted April 25, 2005 Black-on-white crime, in spite of the total lack of "hate crime" prosecutions, is not exactly a RARE occurence. -=Mike yeah, but it damn sure doesnt happen anywhere near as often as white on black crimes have happened throughout the history of our nation
Guest MikeSC Posted April 25, 2005 Report Posted April 25, 2005 "Throughout the history of our nation" doesn't mean shit today. TODAY, it tends to be dramatically occurring in one direction and far less often occurring in the other. -=Mike
Ripper Posted April 25, 2005 Report Posted April 25, 2005 "Throughout the history of our nation" doesn't mean shit today. TODAY, it tends to be dramatically occurring in one direction and far less often occurring in the other. -=Mike Thats bullshit too. Most crimes are committed against peoples own race. Don't pretend that its poor innocent white people being assaulted by the blacks all the time now and it hardly happens the other way. In racially motivated crimes, whites still hold a considerable advantage, but for the most part, crime doesn't cross the color lines. You rob who you are around. you kill who you are around. Black on black and white on white crimes are by far the dominant occurance.
Guest MikeSC Posted April 25, 2005 Report Posted April 25, 2005 "Throughout the history of our nation" doesn't mean shit today. TODAY, it tends to be dramatically occurring in one direction and far less often occurring in the other. -=Mike Thats bullshit too. Most crimes are committed against peoples own race. Don't pretend that its poor innocent white people being assaulted by the blacks all the time now and it hardly happens the other way. Yes, they are. Correct. In the terms of interracial crimes, it tends to be overwhelmingly in one direction, yet hate crime prosecution belies a TOTALLY opposite view. In racially motivated crimes, whites still hold a considerable advantage, but for the most part, crime doesn't cross the color lines. That is complete and utter bullshit and you are well aware of that. You rob who you are around. you kill who you are around. Black on black and white on white crimes are by far the dominant occurance. Yes, they are. But to pretend that interracial crimes occurs AGAINST blacks far more often than it occurs against whites goes against every possible standard of evidence. The only reason it doesn't get mentioned is because people are petrified of being referred to as racist. I, personally, have no problem being slandered if what I'm saying actually happens to be factually accurate. -=Mike
Ripper Posted April 25, 2005 Report Posted April 25, 2005 In racially motivated crimes, whites still hold a considerable advantage, but for the most part, crime doesn't cross the color lines. That is complete and utter bullshit and you are well aware of that. While i will admit that I mistated the "crime doesn't cross the racial lines" thing, what I meant is that it is more likely for people to commit crime against their own. The other part, racially motivated crimes are commited by whites FAR more often than blacks is absolute truth.
EricMM Posted April 25, 2005 Report Posted April 25, 2005 one of you please drop some proof. I mean I believe Ripper offhand, cuz I mean come on, but if either one of you wants to be RIGHT, give some proof.
Big Ol' Smitty Posted April 25, 2005 Report Posted April 25, 2005 Ripper, the asses in your sig are going to get me fired one of these days.
Ripper Posted April 25, 2005 Report Posted April 25, 2005 http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/hatecm.htm I couldnt find anything after the 95 stats, mostly because I am a lazy fuck and don't feel like looking. But there are twice as many reported anti black crime as their are anti white crimes. Mike will argue interracial crime overall, because somehow robbing and hitting someone of a different race is the same thing as beating someone while yelling racial insults. We were discussing hate crime and whites committ more HATE CRIMES.
lomasmoney Posted April 25, 2005 Report Posted April 25, 2005 http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/hatecm.htm I couldnt find anything after the 95 stats, mostly because I am a lazy fuck and don't feel like looking. But there are twice as many reported anti black crime as their are anti white crimes. Mike will argue interracial crime overall, because somehow robbing and hitting someone of a different race is the same thing as beating someone while yelling racial insults. We were discussing hate crime and whites committ more HATE CRIMES. And the winner is.....Ripper
LessonInMachismo Posted April 25, 2005 Report Posted April 25, 2005 We were discussing hate crime and whites committ more HATE CRIMES. There are more whites in the USA.
EricMM Posted April 25, 2005 Report Posted April 25, 2005 So? Percentages were never ever at question.
LessonInMachismo Posted April 25, 2005 Report Posted April 25, 2005 So? Percentages were never ever at question. But if whites commit more actual hate crimes, there are more whites, so it makes sense. It's not like whitey is more racist or anything. Unless Ripper was talking in terms of percentages...
lomasmoney Posted April 25, 2005 Report Posted April 25, 2005 So? Percentages were never ever at question. But if whites commit more actual hate crimes, there are more whites, so it makes sense. It's not like whitey is more racist or anything. Whitey is more racist
Ripper Posted April 25, 2005 Report Posted April 25, 2005 I am not saying whites are even more racist. I am saying that whites are more likely to act out on their racism than blacks which might be more of a product of the racist blacks also calling the justice system racist and think the book will be thrown at them if they act. Whites just act out violently, and destructively their racist views than blacks.
Ripper Posted April 25, 2005 Report Posted April 25, 2005 We were discussing hate crime and whites committ more HATE CRIMES. There are more whites in the USA. Exactly. There are also areas where there are no blacks, so you can argue that the reason that these whites aren't committing hate crimes is because there aren't any blacks to act it out on. ... HA!!
Guest Brian Posted April 25, 2005 Report Posted April 25, 2005 What about white on Asian crimes? We always get the shaft.
kkktookmybabyaway Posted April 25, 2005 Report Posted April 25, 2005 Tell me about it. Have any idea how many Asian on Hispanic hate crimes there were in 2003? If you do, then let me know, will ya?...
Slayer Posted April 25, 2005 Report Posted April 25, 2005 Let's not forget our good friends the Native Americans!
kkktookmybabyaway Posted April 25, 2005 Report Posted April 25, 2005 They're not my friends. Damn hippie Indians should have wiped us out when they had the chance. Now we get fed this guilt trip of "Oh woe is us, the white man ruined everything. Wah wah wah." Fuck that...
The Czech Republic Posted April 25, 2005 Report Posted April 25, 2005 Let's not forget our good friends the Native Americans! Hi boys and girls I'm Jimmy Carl Black and I'm the Indian of the group. Don't hurt me.
Black Lushus Posted April 25, 2005 Report Posted April 25, 2005 I almost got jumped by a bunch of Asians at Worlds Of Fun back when i was 14, they really need to work on that Asian On Black crime dammit...I mean it's not like I robbed their liquor store or anything or shot up their dry cleaning service or nail joint...
Justice Posted April 25, 2005 Report Posted April 25, 2005 I am not saying whites are even more racist. I am saying that whites are more likely to act out on their racism than blacks which might be more of a product of the racist blacks also calling the justice system racist and think the book will be thrown at them if they act. Whites just act out violently, and destructively their racist views than blacks. Uh, looking purely statistically, you're wrong. There are way more than twice as many whites in the US than blacks, so technically a higher number of the black population commit. When you are saying stuff like this, percentages do matter. Especially when you are talking behavior within a certain population. Plus, the actual numbers are: Anti-white crimes: 2,032 Anti-black crimes: 3,099 A lot closer than ya think.
nl5xsk1 Posted April 25, 2005 Report Posted April 25, 2005 I think what would make it news is that they were kids and female, and it was black kids supposedly whaling on white girls. If that happened, it would be news. If a bunch of black kids beat the shit out of another black kid, that's never news. I actually broke up a "fight" that consisted of a handful of black and Latina girls beating up on a white girl. I was sitting on my steps, drinking a beer and talking on the phone, when this young (maybe 14-year-old) Blondie power-walks arond the corner. Just as she was about to pass me, a group of about 5 or 6 girls, maybe a year or so older, came sprinting around the corner and quickly moved in on the girl. They pretty much cornered her between two parked cars and started wailing on her, screaming all sorts of crazy threats and whatnot. I didn't really want to get involved, but felt it was too fucked up not to. So, I went over and basically pulled the "I'm not letting this shit happen right here/right now" card, and told them to break it up. The attackers pretty much ran away, figuring that I was authoritative (e.g. old) enough that it didn't make much sense in sticking around. The girl that was getting attacked thanked me and hurried off. A few hours later a few older black kids swung by on their bikes, and just did circles in the street in front of my house. I went out to see what was up (fully anticipating a "WTF is your problem?!?" scene from them, but they just thanked me for stopping the beatdown, that it was bullshit, etc etc. Oh, how I miss living in the city.
Black Lushus Posted April 25, 2005 Report Posted April 25, 2005 Last time I physically involved myself in a fight involving black chicks, I as well as 2 other people, got maced in the eyes...thanks but no thanks, have at it, bitches...
nl5xsk1 Posted April 25, 2005 Report Posted April 25, 2005 I'm normally with you on that, Lushus ... if this was a one-one fight, regardless of the gender or race, I'd have let it go. If people want to have a go, who am I to stop them. But if it's just a full-on beatdown (which it was) then I really feel that getting involved is the right thing to do. Although, getting maced by a group of mid-teenaged girls out wildin' would have been a cool way for that situation to end.
Modern Man's Hustle Posted April 25, 2005 Report Posted April 25, 2005 http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/hatecm.htm I couldnt find anything after the 95 stats, mostly because I am a lazy fuck and don't feel like looking. But there are twice as many reported anti black crime as their are anti white crimes. Mike will argue interracial crime overall, because somehow robbing and hitting someone of a different race is the same thing as beating someone while yelling racial insults. We were discussing hate crime and whites committ more HATE CRIMES. And the winner is.....Ripper Well, that's fucking bullshit. Nobody is going to report a black man committing a "hate" crime, because that black man will just turn around and say that he's being prosecuted by the white man. And Ripper will agree with him, call the white man a racist, and then come to the aid of the entire African-American race whenever they are clearly in the wrong, just because they're black and white people were involved. Reverse racism doesn't count as actual racism, I suppose.
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