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wow it sounds like that I quit was way better than the lame wm match. Why couldn't they have had THIS match at Mania? (I know cuz HHH didn't want his spotlight taken right? :P )

 

 

So was that finish as weird as it sounds? I guess Bradshaw is afraid of smokestacks? :lol:

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I also can't believe someone wrote feedback to Meltzer commenting on the little girl's chances of growing up to be hot.

Huh?

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I also can't believe someone wrote feedback to Meltzer commenting on the little girl's chances of growing up to be hot.

Huh?

We live in a very disturbing time don't we?

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Did The Undertaker really get injured?

 

He hasn't been seen since Wrestlemania.

He is hurt a bit, but mainly he is gone cuz Sara had another baby.

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From the pics, I wouldn't say that was worse than Guerrero's. Then again, I didn't see it live, so I'm probably wrong

 

Also, Matt Morgan F-5ed the Big Show? Awesome. Here comes the P-p-p-p-p... P-p-p-p-p-p-p-p... P-p-p-p-p... AGONY!

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From the pics, I wouldn't say that was worse than Guerrero's. Then again, I didn't see it live, so I'm probably wrong

 

Also, Matt Morgan F-5ed the Big Show? Awesome. Here comes the P-p-p-p-p... P-p-p-p-p-p-p-p... P-p-p-p-p... AGONY!

I dont think hardly anyone could ever get as much color than Eddy's bladejob last Judgment Day. Blood was literally pouring out of his head from start of the gig to the finish of the match. I just saw that ppv over the weekend for the first time and that was one hell of a match.

 

So with that said, Cena was really bleeding good but not leaking like a half on faucet like Guererro was. But still he had awesome color.

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The right half of the arena was full (TV Side) while i was sitting in section 237 i was in the last row before the tarp started. Upper level was mostly tarped off but that is nothing new for a Smackdown Show/PPV.

 

I thought the finishes for the "big 3" matches were horrible. Booker T/Angle looked fucked, but oh well.

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Not sure why anyone would badmouth the Eddie/Rey finish. I know it was a DQ, but what made anyone think it wouldn't be? From SMDN recently did anyone think Eddie cared about merely getting a pin? I mean he brainbusted some jobber on a chair, suplexed Rey on steel steps....he was out to injure, not to win. This sets up a stip match where there must be a winner.

 

As far as the main goes, it was more my brother badmouthing Bradshaw and missed spots than me. He was being a bit too nitpicky mainly because he absolutely detests Bradshaw and wishes they'd just release him, haha.

 

Anyway I never said the main wasn't a good match, but here's my thoughts on massive blood in a match. Blood can make a bad match a good one, but blood alone can't make a match GREAT. Blood can be the icing on the cake for a great match (a la Hart/Austin). Bret and Austin were good enough to have a real match in the ring without the blood...as WM showed Cena and Bradshaw aren't.

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The DQ finish only means that the feud will culminate at the Next PPV (GAB) in a specialty match. :rolleyes:

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I actually really enjoyed last nights PPV.

 

MNM vs Holly/Haas was surprisingly decent. Haas' plancha was CRAZY and I did not see it coming at all. Aside from that, they wrestled a perfectly fine match with a clean finish. Good opener. 1 for 1.

 

Carlito vs Big Show was what you would expect it to be. Obviously not good on a whole, very short, and slow paced. But this got the obligatory ref bump of the night out of the way early in the show and had a neat finish. F-5, bitch. 2 for 2.

 

Chavo Guerrero vs Paul London wasn't as great as it had the potential to be, but it was far from terrible. London went down hard on that suicide flip to the outside, but I noticed that Chavo started selling the shoulder after that instead of the whole body, so really no harm no foul. Chavo hit a beautiful suicide tope afterwards, which was good. Surprisingly, neither man's dive was as good as Charlie Freaking Haas'. Crazy. Anyway, another clean finish and a solid match with some high spots. 3 for 3.

 

Kurt Angle vs Booker T was pretty lame. The finish seemed like at least one of the three (including ref) fucked up. Honestly, that is all I remember about the match. It was pretty pedestrian. Sharmell is a bitch who can't act, for the record. 3 for 4.

 

Orlando Jordan vs Heidenreich was weak, but really that was to be expected. Heidenreich's poem and friend stuff is surprisingly funny. Orlando Jordan is still a vanilla guy. He just doesn't do anything. Weak finish as well. It was short though. 3 for 5.

 

Eddie Guerrero vs Rey Misterio was good. There was something amiss, though. The story seemed to require a lot more hate on the part of Guerrero - instead, he spent the whole match with a blank stare. Still, some neat spots, especially the 619 on the outside over the ring post and the Liontamer into the STF. If this match had a lot more hate from Guerrero, I would have liked it more. It was a good match, though. 4 for 6.

 

John Cena vs JBL was match of the night. It was a crazy ass brawl. Cena bled a fucking gusher, and JBL's blood was up there as well. I loved how JBL had a game plan, that being to choke out Cena as he tried it to my count 4 times. I thought the ending was weak, as it came out of nowhere and as a smoke stack wasn't even the most dangerous weapon in the match. Maybe if they had had Cena beat on JBL with the door for a bit before picking up the smoke stack and THEN JBL quit, that ending would have worked better. Everything else was gold, especially when each guy would speak into the mic. 5 for 7.

 

Akio vs Nunzio on Heat was also really fun for a quick match, so 5.5 for 7 is my total count. Thumbs up for the PPV as a whole. Yeah, it could have been better, but it was (as usual with anything from Smackdown) worlds better than anything the incredibly overrated Raw has done in a long while.

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My favorite part of the night was Booker T's search for Kurt Ankle. The Kidman alone in the bathroom cameo was off the walls; Funaki with two strange men was good too. I almost thought that he was gonna beat The Prince of Punk Shannon Moore's ass when he came into that room. And who was the 4th guy in there with Bob, Haas and Shannon?

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I also can't believe someone wrote feedback to Meltzer commenting on the little girl's chances of growing up to be hot.

Huh?

The girl in the M-Azing commercials?

not to threadjack, but how young is that girl? I had a big-ass debate with a friend of mine about that girl being old enough to leer at ... he said yes, and I said no.

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I enjoyed the Cena/Bradshaw match tonight but let's be honest here.  It was a bloodbath because neither guy is really worth a shit.  The main event was a fun bloodbath but it wasn't especially well wrestled or anything, hell my brother and I noted 5 times or so where JBL missed a spot or looked awkward. It HAD to be a bloodbath, we know a regular match with these two would be death.

 

Eddie/Rey while a DQ finish was easily a much better wrestled match, while also having some amount of violent brawling.

Which is why wrestling fans pretty much suck now...Not exactly insulting you, or trying to say you suck, but a lot of people always talk about how 'the older days' were better and stuff like that, but then again, seriously, now people actually analyze a match to the extent you and yoru bro did? You actually pointed out missed spots, repetitively? Damn. Talk about taking the fun out of a match.

Oh blah blah blah "you nasty smark, stop analysing the match!" Do us all a favour and just be quiet.

 

Enjoyable show, btw. I'll comment more later, maybe.

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Not sure why anyone would badmouth the Eddie/Rey finish.

It was a PPV match. People don't buy PPV's to see DQ finishes.

Normally I would agree, but I think the fact that there was a non-decisive finish here serves the program better long term and ultimately didnt really ruin the entire match as a whole. The finish and post-match beatdown just served to put more heat on Eddy as a strong heel and the sympathy to Rey even more.

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But it's a PPV.

 

If you don't resolve something there, where the fuck do you do it?

 

Seems like a waste of money. Why bother getting one PPV when they will have another match on another PPV, this time with an actual finish?

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But it's a PPV.

 

If you don't resolve something there, where the fuck do you do it?

 

Seems like a waste of money.  Why bother getting one PPV when they will have another match on another PPV, this time with an actual finish?

That there lies the problem with doing ppvs every month for each brand and the difference sometimes between these midlevel shows and the "big 5". Good feuds like this can't really be blown off right away and I guess the company thought that a Guererro win this soon would cut the feud off at it's knees - I tend to agree with that thought as if Guererro finally got that win his whole supposed beef with Rey would be gone. Plus as part of the storyline, Eddy didnt even care about winning more than just hurting him. And most certainly Rey winning another match between the two would have been a bad move.

 

I guess I would have had more of an issue with the finish too if this was the main event and ended the show. Now to me they could possibly main event the next SD brand ppv with a strong blowoff match between the two from this.

 

This reminds me of the Eddy-JBL match from last Judgment Day and even that was a main event, yet I think it played just fine overall into the big picture. In very rare cases, DQ finishes can be acceptable I think but VERY rarely.

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To me, it's never acceptable. Either have the balls to do something, or don't book yourself into a corner in the first place. If I'm paying to see resolution to a storyline in a big match, and I don't get it, then I just wasted my time and money. What was the point of the build up for the match when it's just going to continue on?

 

I'm not angry or mad, cause I didn't buy the PPV or invest myself into the angle, but to say "why would you bad mouth that finish" (which you didn't say) is a bit of a headscratcher.

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But it's a PPV.

 

If you don't resolve something there, where the fuck do you do it?

 

Seems like a waste of money. Why bother getting one PPV when they will have another match on another PPV, this time with an actual finish?

At the next PPV? And to answer your last question, I guess because usually (although I know sometimes it's the case) you don't buy PPVs just for one match. With that thinking, it seems you're pretty much saying either keep storylines down to one month, or two depending or whether the other brand has ppv or not, or never have to guys face each other at a ppv, until they're going to finally end it.

 

Would you have preferred if Eddie and Rey just didn't have matches at all last night? Or at WM. Only because the actual 'blowoff' won't be until around Summerslam...If that's the case, many many more matches would have even more lackluster build up, and many ppvs would be lacking a lot of possibly good matches.

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At the next PPV?

 

Yes, all well and good, but what Rudo is saying (not to put words in his mouth) is that, if they're going to blow it off at the next PPV, why bother intvesting in this one?

 

Would you have preferred if Eddie and Rey just didn't have matches at all last night? Or at WM. Only because the actual 'blowoff' won't be until around Summerslam...If that's the case, many many more matches would have even more lackluster build up, and many ppvs would be lacking a lot of possibly good matches.

 

My GOD, you really are stupid aren't you? You make the most nutty arguments in every single thread. Do you do it just to disagree with people or something? Seriously man, what's the deal?

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I also can't believe someone wrote feedback to Meltzer commenting on the little girl's chances of growing up to be hot.

Huh?

The girl in the M-Azing commercials?

not to threadjack, but how young is that girl? I had a big-ass debate with a friend of mine about that girl being old enough to leer at ... he said yes, and I said no.

Most people are saying 10 years old... good lord, I can't even believe this is being discussed. Poor kids coming out to be Heidenreich's friend are going to be talked about for years by the internet fans now.

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At the next PPV?

 

Yes, all well and good, but what Rudo is saying (not to put words in his mouth) is that, if they're going to blow it off at the next PPV, why bother intvesting in this one?

 

Would you have preferred if Eddie and Rey just didn't have matches at all last night? Or at WM. Only because the actual 'blowoff' won't be until around Summerslam...If that's the case, many many more matches would have even more lackluster build up, and many ppvs would be lacking a lot of possibly good matches.

 

My GOD, you really are stupid aren't you? You make the most nutty arguments in every single thread. Do you do it just to disagree with people or something? Seriously man, what's the deal?

No, it's just that I really am that stupid.

 

Although I don't see how that's so stupid, he said there's no point in getting a ppv if two men will also fight at the next ppv. So I asked would it just be better if the men didn't fight the first time at all then? Honest question. How the fuck is that stupid?

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Most people are saying 10 years old... good lord, I can't even believe this is being discussed. Poor kids coming out to be Heidenreich's friend are going to be talked about for years by the internet fans now.

Doc, thanks for the reply ... I actually meant the M-A-zing girl that spins around like a contortionist, rather than Heidenreich's friend. I didn't watch JD, so I really don't know how young that girl was.

 

Having said that, though, and knowing my friend's liking of young girls ... he & I probably could have had the same debate over a 10 year old. Gross, but true.

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