NBA Offseason Stuff

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Larry Brown is out as Pistons coach.

 

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Oh great, Flip Saunders now. I'd rather have Rick Adelman personally.

 

I'm not that big of a fan of his, and I think Detroit's D is going to take a big hit. Frankly I fear we wont even be able to get past a Miami or Indiana now. LB is a big part of how this team plays.

Darko must be happyt hough.

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Dalembert to visit Atlanta next Monday

 

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Sonics have a new head coach....

 

 

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2110578

 

 

Not to shit on you Rant, but I don't like that move at all. I know he's been with the team forever, so he knows the personnel well, but I remember his last stint with the Hawks was very forgettable.

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He was also pretty involved in last years floor style.

[Spicy McHaggis 0]

Also, the college game is much closer to what basketball should be than the NBA.

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Quoting myself just to see if I ever said college teams have more talent than pro ones...

 

Nope, never did.

 

You'd have to be blind to say today's NBA is prettier to watch than college ball.

 

The plays that College teams run would get swallowed at the rim with the bigger, more skilled and athletic players.

You're correct. More athletes? Yes. Bigger players? Absolutely.

 

More skilled? Not a chance. Success in today's NBA is heavily dependent on Iso plays and the ability to penetrate, absorb contact, and get to the line. On the flip side, defensive success depends on beating on your opponent as much as possible. As great as you think that is, that ain't basketball.

 

If the players in a free-throw dependent league were that skilled, 75% would be considered mediocre. Instead it's considered good.

 

College basketball easily has better flow and is better to watch.

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Rockets to sign Stromile Swift

 

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According to SAS, Shareef Abdur-Rahim will sign with the Nets for 5 yrs/$29 million.

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Reef is an interesting signing, but not really to put NJ in the upper echelon of Eastern Conference teams.

 

Right now NJ sounds like a fantasy basketball dream team.

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More skilled? Not a chance. Success in today's NBA is heavily dependent on Iso plays and the ability to penetrate, absorb contact, and get to the line. On the flip side, defensive success depends on beating on your opponent as much as possible. As great as you think that is, that ain't basketball.

 

If the players in a free-throw dependent league were that skilled, 75% would be considered mediocre. Instead it's considered good.

 

College basketball easily has better flow and is better to watch.

 

I say that is a matter of opinion(saying college ball isbetter to watch) Saying College players are more skilled is beyond ridiculous. College basketball has a better flow because they suck defensively or they are playing zone. In a man to man defensive scheme all that cut little crap they pull in the college half court game would be eaten alive. Try running that shit against NBA caliber players and it would look like crap. And today's Nba is heavily dependant on screen and rolls, pick and rolls, and yes, some Iso plays. Off they ball the free up their shooters.

 

Playing against inferior competition does make people look better, no doubt, but the fact of the matter is that you are watching a bunch of amatuers doing a decent job of playing the same game that the pros do a better job at. The people that say that the game flows better should ask the rookies what is the biggest differences between the pro game and the college game. They will say that it is 10x more complicated and that the speed of the game is overwhelming. College game may be prettier to watch to YOU, but to me, the Pro game is a thing of beauty where you are watching the best of the best go at it.

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Shareef to the Nets isn't bad, but they still lack anything solid in the middle. It's nice because now when the Nets get into a half court game, they have a legit scoring threat in the post. Problem is Shareef is starting to show some wear and tear and he's not known as tough or as a winner. He has failed to make the playoffs with any of his teams and holds the record for playoff futility in regards to how long he's been in the league. Definitely doesn't have winner intangibles, but perhaps Kidd can help turn that around.

 

Swift to Houston is a deal I like. Now they just need some better backcourt depth that isn't aging (think Sura, Wesley) along with a better point guard and maybe Houston and T-Mac finally get out of the first round. Swift has a ton of athleticism and will really put fear into guys defensively who drive down the lane because with him and Yao patrolling the paint, the opposition is going to have to get it done from the perimeter.

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Swift to Houston is a deal I like. Now they just need some better backcourt depth that isn't aging (think Sura, Wesley) along with a better point guard and maybe Houston and T-Mac finally get out of the first round. Swift has a ton of athleticism and will really put fear into guys defensively who drive down the lane because with him and Yao patrolling the paint, the opposition is going to have to get it done from the perimeter.

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All Houston needs now is a point guard who has no scoring ability and just sets guys up. I nominate:

 

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...and he's not known as tough or as a winner. He has failed to make the playoffs with any of his teams and holds the record for playoff futility in regards to how long he's been in the league.

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He played with the Grizzlies and Hawks for a combined eight of his nine seasons - I think that's reason enough to be optimistic of what he could do with a team with a WINNING mentality.

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Off they ball the free up their shooters.

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Then why have shooting percentages declined? You've had the luxury of watching the best offensive team in the league play ball. And everybody knows a healthy Joe Johnson would've completely changed the conf. finals. Most of the league sucks at shooting. As far as I'm concerned, we should expect 50% from the field, 45% from 3, and 80% from the line. Most teams aren't close to that.

 

Again, NBA players are better. But I say it's because they're bigger, faster, and more athletic. Not because of basketball skill.

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Any more news on Daniels and the Lakers?

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Any more news on Daniels and the Lakers?

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Last we heard from Chad Ford, the Lakers don't want to give him more than a two-year deal (says they're saving up for the big push at Yao), whlie Portland is trying to woo him due to his great relationship with McMillan and the idea that he'll be a mentor to Telfair.

 

With that said, I'm guessing we won't hear anything new until the signing period starts, so the Blazers and Lakers can see how the market is moving.

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Yao with conditioning could be a 30+ points per game guy. He is completely unstoppable when he isn't winded. Problem is, the guy still has no conditioning. I still say that if he actually got the summer off for once, he would be a much more dominant force. He has been playing non stop for like 4 years now.

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Since the Lakers are crazy about Yao, how about Tim Thomas, next year's 2nd 1st round pick for Lamar Odom and filler? That way, you'll save more room for Yao's free agent year.

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Off they ball the free up their shooters.

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Then why have shooting percentages declined? You've had the luxury of watching the best offensive team in the league play ball. And everybody knows a healthy Joe Johnson would've completely changed the conf. finals. Most of the league sucks at shooting. As far as I'm concerned, we should expect 50% from the field, 45% from 3, and 80% from the line. Most teams aren't close to that.

 

Again, NBA players are better. But I say it's because they're bigger, faster, and more athletic. Not because of basketball skill.

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But you are going off the assumption that the players are open. If you looked at a "wide open" stat, I guarentee the percentages are alot better than those you just mentioned. They DEFEND in the NBA. Wide open shots are few and far between. Like when People look at Horry's shot in the finals, they talk about how he was wide open, when in actuallity, there was someone in his face right at the release. THAT is NBA open. As defenders get better, putting the ball in the basket is going to be harder. and those numbers you just quoted...what team has ever shot 45% from the 3 point line? There are teams dancing with the 50% from the field, but once again, against a good defensive team, they SHOULDN'T be shooting that. In college, with the zone, if you swing the ball enough you get a shot that is TRUELY wide open. And they still don't put up the numbers you just mentioned.

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I still don't get the Lakers big fascination with Yao. Yes hes a big name and such, but as a winning center, I am still not sure just how well he will be long term. He will not be a dominant force ala Shaq, just a decent center who can shoot but doesen't rebound or have any speed. But since hes a name who is available the Lakers must have him. I gues I just don't get Yao.

 

 

Tom

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Agreed on all accounts. And anyways, in about two-three years, won't Bynum be just about ready to go as the Lakers' big guy? That makes going for Yao even more pointless. The only scenario I could see them doing is if they wanted to throw big bucks at Stoudamire, but I think Amare got an extension on his contract, so I'm not so sure about that. Either way, with a decent point guard, the Lakers would just about have everything wrapped up to rebuild with a big, young, athletic core.

 

Since the Lakers are crazy about Yao, how about Tim Thomas, next year's 2nd 1st round pick for Lamar Odom and filler? That way, you'll save more room for Yao's free agent year.

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No. Fuck that. The team is completely building around Kobe and Odom, and especially now with Jackson back in the fold, the offense is supposed to be flowing through Odom (we'll see how that pans out), so you can forget about Odom as trade bait.

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Yao is a good fit to take a backseat to Kobe and even Odom. He doesnt mind being a #2 option or probably even a 3rd. Hes gonna get his 10+ boards and 2 blocks no matter what and a center who puts up 18 pts in todays NBA is still a rarity. Theres no guarantee Bynum will pan out but he is a pretty good insurance policy if they cant land Yao,

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Forward Donyell Marshall is going to Cleveland.

 

Marshall agrees to deal with Cavs

 

 

Definately a boost in their 3-point shooting. Very good signing by the Cavs.

 

Tom

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The Lakers and Blazers look to have been beaten in the race for Antonio Daniels, Washington offering an estimated 5 years $30 million.

 

Portland still has Sebastian Telfair, but the Lakers are fast running out of options at PG, they better hurry up and sign someone soon.

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So the Cavs managed to get Larry Hughes, Sign Saurunas Jasikevicius(a pure shooter and one hell of a international point guard) sign a PF to go along side the recently resigned Big Z.....goddamn.

 

Danny Ferry went out and did every goddamn thing he said he was going to do. He got the shooter at the point, got a high caliber two guard, got his PF, and with them looking to resign Traylor, they got pretty deep in the front court now. And their back court is complete.

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http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2110951

 

 

 

Andrew Bogut: Fightin' 'round the world

 

 

 

http://www.philly.com/mld/inquirer/sports/12173098.htm

 

Kyle Korver and Willie Green both agree to six year deals to stay with the Sixers.

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The Lakers and Blazers look to have been beaten in the race for Antonio Daniels, Washington offering an estimated 5 years $30 million.

 

Portland still has Sebastian Telfair, but the Lakers are fast running out of options at PG, they better hurry up and sign someone soon.

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30 MILLION DOLLARS FOR ANTONIO DANIELS?!?!

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Agreed on all accounts. And anyways, in about two-three years, won't Bynum be just about ready to go as the Lakers' big guy? That makes going for Yao even more pointless. The only scenario I could see them doing is if they wanted to throw big bucks at Stoudamire, but I think Amare got an extension on his contract, so I'm not so sure about that. Either way, with a decent point guard, the Lakers would just about have everything wrapped up to rebuild with a big, young, athletic core.

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I suggest:

 

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Lakers should be shooting for Marko Jaric, Juan Dixon or Steve Blake. All are quality guards IMO, though Jaric would REALLY fit in with the Lakers.

 

Think about it. A 6'7 point guard, a 6'7"- 6'8" two guard, a 6'10"-6'11" small forward a 7 foot power forward and a 7 foot center.

 

That would be sick to have to guard.