Phil Jackson accepts Laker Job

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So the wife got him the job? Will the Lakers now trade Kobe?

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MikeJordan23, sorry to be a stickler for details, but your headline should read "accepts" Laker job, not "excepts".

 

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MikeJordan23, sorry to be a stickler for details, but your headline should read "accepts" Laker job, not "excepts".

 

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I just noticed that. Thanks for the correction, I should've double checked. One of the Mods, can you fix correct that, please?

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Good, now maybe the Knicks can FINALLY give Herb Williams the extension he deserves

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Phil Jackson rebuilding a team? I've gotta see it to believe it first.

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If they draft a solid player like PG Ray Felton they're good enough for the 8th seed assuming everyone is healthy.

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MikeJordan23, sorry to be a stickler for details, but your headline should read "accepts" Laker job, not "excepts".

 

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Coming from a Laker fan, Phil Jackson will NOT get them out of the first round, unless a miracle happens.

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MikeJordan23, sorry to be a stickler for details, but your headline should read "accepts" Laker job, not "excepts".

 

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Coming from a Laker fan, Phil Jackson will NOT get them out of the first round, unless a miracle happens.

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My post wasn't really directed towards TSM Laker fanboys. TSM Laker fanboys are actually pretty smart and recognize the team needs another impact player or two before "championship" talk gets serious. I happen to know a lot of Laker fans who are as bad as Raider fans in that every year (even before Phil took over in 2000) was going to be a championship year, no matter who was on the team.

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Oh, of course, I just felt that I needed to get that out there because I know I'll spend countless hours explaining why this team still sucks to my friends.

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Good move.

 

The Lakers still need a power forward and a quick point guard as usual. But I think the Kobe/Phil relationship will work better without Jackson having to worry about massaging Fatboy's ego.

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If I were the Lakers I'd be much more interested in Sean May than Felton. May can come in right away and make an impact on the boards with his size, hands and toughness, and he can vulture a ton of easy baskets from playing with Kobe. Phil will re-install the triangle, and from what I saw from Felton at UNC he wasn't the smartest or most under control point guard, and I don't think he's a good fit. Kobe can run the offense in the half-court, and they can probably find a decent PG like Nate Robinson or Jarrett Jack in the second round and bring him along slower. If they want to use their 1st rd pick on a PG I think Deron Williams would be the ideal guy, but they'd have to move up into the top 5 to get him.

 

And back to the Knicks for a second, Bill Lambier has apparently had another interview with Isiah. I swear that Tuss is trying to kill whatever loyalty Knicks fans have left and I have a bad, bad feeling that hiring Lambier would blow up in his face. I might be wrong, but this ain't the WNBA, and his schtick isn't going to work on a guy like Marbury.

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While I'm not a Laker fan, from draft scouting reports I've read, Felton would actually be potentially better than May. Felton is very long and athletic and while he does appear out of control at times, he's the fastest player from endline to endline in this draft. May is undersized and needs to drop the babyfat. He's also not very athletic and won't be able to push around in the paint in the NBA like he did in college.

 

The Triangle isn't going to matter much with the current personnel. They'll still look to run first and then fall back into the triangle when the break isn't there. Phil may have Kobe be the player that recieves the trigger or deployment pass in the post a la MJ during the 96-98 Bulls run. The Triangle is an offense where you don't need a traditional point guard to penetrate to get guys looks, it's an offense where all the players on the floor need to know what spots to take and what pass to make dependent on what the defense does.

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Wow, that's kinda shocking. But I was thinking that he might accept the challenge. He probably wants to prove he can win without shaq.

 

I'm not a Laker fan(as a NY native I was hoping he'd go to the knicks) , but this could be interesting.

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I think people make too big of an issue out of May's height, he plays bigger than 6-8. I see him as a less explosive Elton Brand, a guy who's going to be good for a double double every night, and who can come in and start right away. His problems will come when he has to guard Tim Duncan or Kevin Garnett, but who doesn't have problems with them?

 

 

And as for the PGs role in the triangle, the offense is obviously running through Kobe, and all they need at the point is a Paxson/Fisher type who plays d and shoots well. That takes away from Felton's strengths. He was a guy who always had the ball in his hands at UNC, I'm not sure how he'd adapt to being Kobe's wingman, which is why I think they'd be better off cultivating those specific skills in a lower pick. If the Lakers are going to become a run n' gun squad it's a different story, but I'm not so sure that's going to happen. They can try it, but there will be other teams who can play that style better than them.

 

I'm just not a Raymond Felton fan though, so I'm probably biased

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Now that Phil is back in la la land who will be the big name free agent that will sign with the Lakers?

[Precious Roy 0]

Luc Longley

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LOL @ Luc Longley.

 

Back to the draft pick, the Lakers would be much better off with Deron Williams or Chris Paul, but neither are so great that they should trade down for the pick.

 

I'm not sure of the Lakers salary cap situation precisely, but know it isn't good because of Kobe's contract as well as Odom and Grant's final year of his contract. Again, I propose you dump either Odom or Butler and someone like Slava to the Kings for Peja. (just saying this because I'm not a big Peja fan)

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nooo i wanted him to come to the Knicks.

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That was not going to happen.

 

First off, the Knicks personnel is just as bad, if not worse than the Lakers. Add to that Phil and Isiah aren't going to see eye to eye and today is the result.

 

All those rumors of Phil going to coach in Cleveland, New York, Sacto(?) were just posturing to get the Lakers to pony up more cash and get a sweeter deal.

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MikeJordan23, sorry to be a stickler for details, but your headline should read "accepts" Laker job, not "excepts".

 

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I just noticed that. Thanks for the correction, I should've double checked. One of the Mods, can you fix correct that, please?

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Normally I would, but since I'm evil now, I can't do it.

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More like LAZY~! alkeiper to me.

[bobobrazil1984 0]

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORING. couldn't they get someone new instead of rehashing the Phil/Kobe drama? i mean come on, is pHil jackson REALLY the *only* coach who can whipthe Lakers back into playoff shape? Yeesh.

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BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORING. couldn't they get someone new instead of rehashing the Phil/Kobe drama? i mean come on, is pHil jackson REALLY the *only* coach who can whipthe Lakers back into playoff shape? Yeesh.

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Doug Moe.

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I was damn near giddy when I heard about the news. While this doesn't make them an instant championship contender or anything, it's one major problem they've fixed, as Rudy T. quit on the team and Frank Hamblem was definitely not the answer. Now they should probably get rid of Atkins, Medvedenko, Tierre Brown, and a bunch of other useless garbage, upgrade the bench and PG position via free agency (with whatever's available), and improve the frontcourt via the draft. Mihm is an excellent backup and a decent occasional starter, but he isn't the final solution at center.

 

This certainly makes me hopeful for next season, at least getting back to the playoffs would be a fresh breath of air. With the Kings' demise, they still have to deal with the Spurs, Mavs, Rockets, Nuggets, and Suns in the West. Not to mention a host of other teams who could turn things around and be a surprise next year (I'm thinking of the Warriors in particular), so nothing's for sure, but it certainly looks better now. The one thing that bothers me is that Jackson probably won't even hold up for all 3 years of his contract, in other words, he's something of a stop-gap solution.. There still feels like there's a sense of doom after Jackson, like there was last year.

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Gary Payton and Tyronn Lue are free agents....

 

But seriously, there's some decent guys out there they they might be able to get for a reasonable price. Dan Dickau might be a nice fit for them, he can shoot.

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This is starting to bug me. People complain about the Yanks getting too much tv attention, this saga took up most of sportscenter. And it's getting annoying about his comeback. he was gone for 1 season and they make it sound like it was years. And the Laker fans get all excited, which is fine, but the way the media put it, it's like they have been without a title for 80 years, Yet I as a Yankee fan have to put up with comments like "Hey why are you upset they won 4 titles recently?"

 

This leads me to believe that the media is attempting to say that it's ok to have a dynasty, UNLESS you're a NY team. or that LA=Good and NY=Evil, which is even more retarded a statement, considering that my current home state is filled with more phonies, posers, fake movie stars and celebrities and backstabbers than you can shake a stick at.

 

I'm not trying to bash Laker fans cuz that's not cool, and they put up with a similar deal with haters like Yankee fans.

 

Hey if Phil can take them to the top again, more power to him, good for you.

 

But maybe I'm just cranky today. But I had to get this off my chest.

 

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This is starting to bug me. People complain about the Yanks getting too much tv attention, this saga took up most of sportscenter.  And it's getting annoying about his comeback. he was gone for 1 season and they make it sound like it was years. And the Laker fans get all excited, which is fine, but the way the media put it, it's like they have been without a title for 80 years,  Yet I as a Yankee fan have to put up with comments like "Hey why are you upset they won 4 titles recently?"

 

This leads me to believe that the media is attempting to say that it's ok to have a dynasty, UNLESS you're a NY team.  or that LA=Good and NY=Evil, which is even more retarded a statement, considering that my current home state  is filled with more phonies, posers, fake movie stars and celebrities  and backstabbers than you can shake a stick at.

 

I'm not trying to bash Laker fans cuz that's not cool, and they put up with a similar deal with haters like Yankee fans.

 

Hey if Phil can take them to the top again, more power to him, good for you.

 

But maybe I'm just cranky today.  But I had to get this off my chest.

 

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Nah, Lakers fans are just as bad as Yankees fans.

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With the Kings' demise, they still have to deal with the Spurs, Mavs, Rockets, Nuggets, and Suns in the West. Not to mention a host of other teams who could turn things around and be a surprise next year (I'm thinking of the Warriors in particular), so nothing's for sure, but it certainly looks better now. The one thing that bothers me is that Jackson probably won't even hold up for all 3 years of his contract, in other words, he's something of a stop-gap solution.. There still feels like there's a sense of doom after Jackson, like there was last year.

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With the Kings demise? When was this? If you mean our playoff exit, yes we fell hard to a good Sonics team. However, our team went through many changes this year and still secured a 6th seed in the West. Now, we didn't have homecourt in the playoffs unlike previous years, but until we actually fail to make the playoffs, like your ball club, I find it hard to write us off just because of some off season moves or potential of other ball clubs i.e. Golden State. Remember, potential still means you haven't done shit yet.

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With the Kings' demise, they still have to deal with the Spurs, Mavs, Rockets, Nuggets, and Suns in the West. Not to mention a host of other teams who could turn things around and be a surprise next year (I'm thinking of the Warriors in particular), so nothing's for sure, but it certainly looks better now. The one thing that bothers me is that Jackson probably won't even hold up for all 3 years of his contract, in other words, he's something of a stop-gap solution.. There still feels like there's a sense of doom after Jackson, like there was last year.

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With the Kings demise? When was this? If you mean our playoff exit, yes we fell hard to a good Sonics team. However, our team went through many changes this year and still secured a 6th seed in the West. Now, we didn't have homecourt in the playoffs unlike previous years, but until we actually fail to make the playoffs, like your ball club, I find it hard to write us off just because of some off season moves or potential of other ball clubs i.e. Golden State. Remember, potential still means you haven't done shit yet.

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Thanks Dangerous. You proved why Lakers fans are just as bad as Yankees fans. Though Vitamin X is one of the better Lakers fans I've seen on this board.