Lesnar wants back in.....

[Spaceman Spiff 0]

Because the fans boo'd the hell out of him at WM. They'll remember that he "sold out". I'd honestly be shocked if he got a big face reaction.

[ChrisMWaters 0]

Should Lesnar return, I say he should come out and attack everyone in his path.

 

That way, the reactions of the fans will give the reaction, and "The E" can go from there.

[haws bah gawd 0]

Given the way the NY crowd shit all over him at WMXX (and I'm sure other fans haven't forgotten about him), I think Brock would best be served with a "give me another chance" angle, like Sgt. Slaughter was given after his heel run in the early 90's. At first he will be slaughtered with "you sold out" chants, that is a given, but by giving him decisive wins over some of the upper mid-carders on Smackdown, I think the crowds would warm up to him again over time. Like Benoit, you can't help but respect the guy for his in-ring ability. That alone would get him over if he were booked correctly upon his return. If all goes well, I expect him back no later than Summerslam.

[Hunter's Torn Quad 0]

Under no circumstances should Brock be portrayed as begging or asking for anything. He should demand or take, not ask.

[snuffbox 0]

I agree with HTG.

 

The 'you sold out' heat will only add to his overness as a heel. If he comes back you have the shock value of his return, his history adding to his charismsa for a boatload of heat, and another good worker for the main event. He can still be a monster fucking heel, and now even moreso because of what he did by leaving.

[natey2k4 0]

Why does Smackdown "so desparately" need Brock? I'm not sure if im in the majority or not, but I found Smackdown! quite a lot more entertaining than RAW this week..

[Hunter's Torn Quad 0]

Why does Smackdown "so desparately" need Brock? I'm not sure if im in the majority or not, but I found Smackdown! quite a lot more entertaining than RAW this week..

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You mean apart from the fact they've been gutted of their best names?

 

You mean apart from the fact that the potential PPV options they have, while making for good matches, are not that likely to draw a great deal, whereas Brock in the mix would?

[RavishingRickRudo 0]

I don't see myself watching the WWE by Fall. I've been missing a lot of their TV and am not "missing it" in the slightest. If they had Lesnar back, my interest would probably go up. They've managed to take a lot of my interest out of Benoit and Benjamin, and Rosie doesn't appear to be going anywhere at anytime. I miss Lesnar.

[The Tino Standard 0]

See, I don't think they'd boo the hell out of him. The topic of his return has come up on here more than once, meaning that the smark community has a definite interest in seeing him wrestling again (exactly how he'd return is debatable, but there's no doubt that most would want to see him back in SOME way or another).

 

As for the casual fans, I don't think they hold grudges against wrestlers, especially not for a year after they're gone. Sure, Brock got booed to hell at WMXX, but time heals wounds, and I just don't see the venom there anymore.

[RavishingRickRudo 0]

It all depends on how they introduce him. If he comes out, kicks ass, and leaves quickly - they won't have time to boo. If he comes out, has a face off, and they close the show quickly - they won't have time to boo. If he takes a long saunter down the ramp, or starts off with a promo, or does anything where the crowd has time to get over the "HOLY SHIT" factor, then they'll probably boo.

[UZI Suicide 0]

He would have to come back with a gimmick where he talks about how he was too good for wrestling and beat everyone there was to beat, etc. But now he sees new guys taking his spot, who need an asskicking (Cena, Batista, etc.) and he needed to come back and teach them a lesson. Something along those lines.

[RavishingRickRudo 0]

They should (if he were to come back) build him up as a boxing (or MMA) promotion would build a returning "big name" fighter. I think Brock when was most effectively "sold" was against The Rock at Summerslam, and they did that in a very "sportslike" manner. Don't give him any "feuds", just give him one opponent to give him a #1 contenders match, and then the next opponent would be the champion. There would be nothing personal here, just professional. He crushes his opponent in the #1 contenders match, then the story becomes whether or not the current champion can keep his title.

[iggymcfly 0]

Okay, this is kind of long, but here's my idea for what they could do if they brought back Brock.

 

Let's say for argument's sake that it's the middle of August, and Batista is the World Champion on Smackdown. (Obviously, we don't know how the title situation will go, but the storyline's easily adaptable.) Brock Lesnar comes in out of nowhere in a Smackdown main event and F-5's Batista. Then the next week, Lesnar comes out and challenges Batista to a title match.

 

Before Batista can answer though, Undertaker interrupts and says that Lesnar can't just waltz back into the WWE and expect a title shot. He says that Brock didn't give wrestling the proper respect, and thought that he could just try whatever sport he wanted on a whim, while guys like Taker have fought to uphold the business their whole lives. If Brock wants to get a title shot, he'll have to beat him first. Brock just laughs and says how he's beaten Taker time and again before and that this time will be no different.

 

The next PPV, Brock has his return match against Taker. He dominates the early going of the match, but slowly starts to get winded, and when he finally gets Taker up for the F-5, he drops him and collapses to the mat, allowing Taker to set up a tombstone for the victory.

 

The following week, Brock absolutely snaps. The show's scheduled to open with a 4-way cruiserweight title match, but Brock runs out and destroys everyone in the match with powerbombs and F-5s. The crazy enraged Brock goes on for a couple weeks, and he's considered a loose cannon that no one can control, destroying everyone he faces. Finally, Teddy Long is seen making a desperate phone call, saying that Brock's gone completely wild and that he "didn't know who else to call".

 

The next week, Brock's scheduled for a match against Rey Mysterio. Brock loses the match by DQ, after which he brutalizes Rey with a chair and just when he's about to powerbomb Rey off the stage, out comes Paul Heyman. He says "Brock, is this how low you've sunk? The only way you can feel powerful is to beat throw a man that's half your size a platform? I remember when you were the most unstoppable monster that wrestling had ever seen. Now, you're nothing but a has-been. You can't even beat the Undertaker."

 

Brock leaves Rey and goes over to stare down Heyman. "Oh," he says, "it hurts doesn't it. It hurts because it's true. But do you know what? I'm the one man that can make you what you once were. I know we've had our problems. Mistakes were made. But come with me, and the two of us will rule wrestling once again." At this point, Rey attacks Lesnar from behind. However, filled with even more rage, Lesnar quickly regains control and ends up throwing Mysterio off the stage after all. Heyman says "See, the animal's still there. All you need is a little guidance. Why don't you just come with me and talk about it." Lesnar stares Heyman down before ultimately walking backstage with him.

 

The next few weeks, all we see from Lesnar and Heyman are some training vignettes similar to the ones used during the Rock feud, only with Heyman by his side as a trainer and maybe a short interview with Josh Matthews or someone "from Lesnar's training center in Minneapolis, Minnesota. This gives Batista and Taker a chance to be the focus and also lets Brock regain his center and focus as a wrestler.

 

Brock finally returns at Survivor Series against Rey Mysterio who missed about three or four weeks, selling the injury. He demolishes him quickly and effectively, squashing him inside of three minutes, and after the match, he just as quickly and effectively leaves the ring and walks backstage. Meanwhile, Batista defeats Taker in a typical 20 minute WWE main event retaining his World Title which he has now held for seven months.

 

The next week on Smackdown, Brock and Heyman come out together, although Brock does much of the talking. He says that when he faced Taker before, he took the Deadman for granted. However, now he is a different man, and he is in the best physical condition of his life. He says that to show just how great of shape he's in, he wants to take on the Undertaker in a 2/3 falls match. Undertaker, of course accepts, and their feud continues to the next Smackdown PPV. When they finally have the match, not only does Lesnar defeat Taker, he defeats him 2 falls to 0, winning the first fall with the F-5 and the second fall with the triple powerbomb.

 

Meanwhile, Heyman also starts managing the Dudleys who win back the tag titles at the same event. The next week, Lesnar says that he's proved himself, and now he wants a shot at Batista's World Title at the Royal Rumble. However, Teddy Long is growing a little wary of Heyman's power, and says that if Lesnar wants a title shot, the Rumble is where he'll have to earn it by winning the 30-man battle royal.

 

To make a long story short, Lesnar wins the Royal Rumble and beats Batista at Wrestlemania in a match which may or may not be clean, depending on how serious you are about keeping Batista at an elite level in the WWE. Anyway, the Smackdown after Mania, Heyman comes out and says that not only is Brock Lesnar the greatest champion in the history of wrestling, he is also the most extreme, as he is about to demonstrate. With that, the two of them put on welding masks, and Lesnar wields a blowtorch with which he melts down the World Title into a puddle of gold and leather in the middle of the ring. Heyman reaches into his briefcase and pulls out the ECW World Title which Brock promptly wraps around his waist.

 

At this, Teddy Long comes out, incensed, but before he can call for security, the Dudley Boyz, Brock Lesnar, Tazz, Chris Benoit, and Rob Van Dam all come out and beat him down as well as Batista and Taker who were trying to make the save. As the beatdown goes on in the background, Heyman says over the mic: "Don't feel bad Teddy. It's just the evolution of the business. WWE Smackdown may be dead, but ECW Friday Night Havoc is just being born."

[zyn081 0]

I can forsee huge problems if a guy like Taker or someone is asked to job to Lesnar at this point in time. Huge, ugly problems.

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Then dont pair him off with the UT then.

 

I think if he comes back the first feud they will immediately put him in is as a face against JBL.

I dunno. He's likely going to have insane heel heat fromt he crowd. Go with that rather than trying to go against the grain.

 

I like the idea of giving him a couple dark matches like before Smackdown shows or something. See what's he got left in the tank.

No, no, no. He's gotta run out of the crowd, or run out from the back. Make it a "holy shit!" deal. Doing dark matches takes away from the impact/excitement of his return.

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Its got to be unexpected. A returning superstar normally always gets cheap heat. I remember WMX19 when they showed the Goldberg viginette. People were like, I paid all this money to find out that Goldberg is going to return, why couldnt he make an appearance a Wrestle Frickin Mania.

[iliketurtles 0]

If Lesnar comes out of the crowd, gives JBL and F5 to start up a promo, I don't give a fuck what he's done. He's going to get a massive babyface reaction.

[jester 0]

If they bring Lesner back, they should do it like they introduced him. Have him come out unexpectedly and just annihilate people.

[zyn081 0]

If Lesnar comes out of the crowd, gives JBL and F5 to start up a promo, I don't give a fuck what he's done. He's going to get a massive babyface reaction.

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I dont think well see that, since JBL is VKM's 4th fav after HHH, UT and Angle.

[cabbageboy 0]

I never cared anything about Brock Lesnar, I really didn't. The guy just never did it for me at all, and frankly they pushed him way too hard too fast. I still think the single lamest booking decision of a match was Brock beating RVD for the 2002 KOTR. Not only did Brock quit and leave them high and dry, but this match is one that really hurt Van Dam's momentum.

 

The angle above isn't a bad one, though I kind of shudder at the thought of Brock as ECW world champ. If they do that I'd kinda like to see that Brock/RVD feud get a real blowoff, since the last match was essentially a DQ win for RVD.

[Shooting Star 0]

They'd probably put him against Matt Morgan and do some battle of the F5's

[Guest jumpingbombangel]

Why does Smackdown "so desparately" need Brock?

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I agree with this question since it's close to closing time for Smackdown. Putting Brock on Smackdown would be a "last hurrah" type of thing for the show, not a salvation.

 

Smackdown doesn't need Brock Lesnar; it needs a decent funeral.

 

That being said though, I don't think they'll bury him if/when he comes back. He's the male version of Sable, so he'll get the same sort of welcomed return. Wrestling has such a selective memory; WWE PR and the sheep that follow it lovingly will soon forget about the shit NYC heaped upon Lesnar.

[Team Angle Pusher 0]

If he comes back he's an immediate ultra Heel which is good..

[Slayer 0]

People can be as idealistic as they want about Brock's potential return, but I stand by my prediction from a year ago

[Black Lushus 0]

in response to Iggy's post: I don't see them dogging out Rey like that, especially after burning the past couple of months showing how strong he is over Guerrero...whether he actually ever holds the title or not, Rey is going to be in that upper-tier soon, if he's not already...having Brock kill him would completely eliminate everything they've built into him so far...

 

my prediction: JBL wins the new Smackdown belt; Batista comes over with the world title and challenges JBL for the "REAL" title; Heel Brock Version: Batista wins, Brock comes outta nowhere with the F5 and a challenge, he eventually wins the belt and the fued; Face Brock Version: subsititute Batista with JBL...BAM! sold, baby!

[Guest JerichosHi-Lite]

Crazy theory perhaps, but doesn't the fact that Brock was greeted with so many "you sold out" chants show how badly wrestling fans wanted him to stay? If so, I think it's a safe bet that wrestling fans would be more than happy to have him back. Especially given SmackDown's current state.

 

As for me, I've missed Brock since the minute he left. I think Brock adds more to WWE (especially as a heel, but that's just IMO) than people give him credit for, and if he was on his usual form I think he would get the ratings in.

 

If WWE's willing to bury the hatchet with Piper, Austin and Hogan (although, granted, Brock's not exactly in their league) they're probably willing to give Brock another go. And for the sake of business, and for my personal Lesnar withdrawals, I hope they do.

[Black Lushus 0]

I don't know if he'll ever be the huge star the expected him to be, but he is certainly needed...hell if Bret Hart were able, I'd even lobby to bring him back, at least temporarily...they need less HHH and more of something else...

[bobobrazil1984 0]

I give it three weeks of "WWE writing" before Lesner is just another WWE wrestler.

[SuperJerk 0]

I don't see how they'd get past the perception that Brock is a has-been who couldn't cut it in the NFL.

[iggymcfly 0]

in response to Iggy's post:  I don't see them dogging out Rey like that, especially after burning the past couple of months showing how strong he is over Guerrero...whether he actually ever holds the title or not, Rey is going to be in that upper-tier soon, if he's not already...having Brock kill him would completely eliminate everything they've built into him so far...

 

Well, I just figured that Rey would be a credible PPV opponent for a while, and his losing to Brock in three minutes isn't really much worse than Undertaker losing to him two straight falls. I was basically just trying to set it up so that Brock's so strong that Batista's perceived as the "only one" who might be able to beat him before he loses to him at Mania.

 

I give it three weeks of "WWE writing" before Lesner is just another WWE wrestler.

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And where exactly did Brock make it big? WCW?

[bobobrazil1984 0]

You know what I mean.

[Spaceman Spiff 0]

Well, I just figured that Rey would be a credible PPV opponent for a while, and his losing to Brock in three minutes isn't really much worse than Undertaker losing to him two straight falls. I was basically just trying to set it up so that Brock's so strong that Batista's perceived as the "only one" who might be able to beat him before he loses to him at Mania.

Wel, I'd think that beating Taker 2-0 would make Brock look a lot stronger than by squashing Rey.