humongous2002 0 Report post Posted July 13, 2005 I just don't get it, why is Jericho considered "cheap"? Is this like an actual "slang" word or it's just Cena trying too hard to come out with a new catchphrase and failing at it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest bigm350 Report post Posted July 13, 2005 I think its just Cena trying too hard to be cool and funny. Whatever the case, that "cheap" line is awful. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Only The Strong Survive 0 Report post Posted July 13, 2005 All it really implies is that, instead of being a man and challenging Cena face-to-face, he's been relying on sneak attacks and two-faced speech/ actions lately. It's a terrible line but it's not really that complicated. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
razazteca 0 Report post Posted July 13, 2005 Isn't it obvious that Cena does not have freestyle skillz. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dubq 0 Report post Posted July 13, 2005 Maybe he uses too many throws or projectiles in Street Fighter II.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SuperJerk 0 Report post Posted July 13, 2005 I just realized its been a while since we had a Cena-bashing thread. If that means people have been storing up their Cena hated for a while, so this should get good.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Just John 0 Report post Posted July 13, 2005 While it's not saying much, Cena could've done worse. At least he hasn't called Jericho "Y-2-Gay" yet. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest JMA Report post Posted July 13, 2005 If Cena really wanted to insult Jericho, he could bring up the fact that the nickname "Y2J" is horribly outdated. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest jumpingbombangel Report post Posted July 13, 2005 If Cena really wanted to insult Jericho, he could bring up the fact that the nickname "Y2J" is horribly outdated. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I think both gentlemen being stuck in the 1980s cultural timewarp they're in makes the whole outdated thing a bit of a moot point. But you're right. Y2J is so "Willenium." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
razazteca 0 Report post Posted July 13, 2005 While it's not saying much, Cena could've done worse. At least he hasn't called Jericho "Y-2-Gay" yet. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> You know a few Ass Cream comments would be the perfect follow up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MillenniumMan831 0 Report post Posted July 13, 2005 I thought the "cheap" line referred to Jericho just blathering about how great he is despite not doing anything great in quite some time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Boon 0 Report post Posted July 13, 2005 The more I think about it, the more that line confuses me. He seemed to be going in the direction that Jericho used to be the Undisputed Champ, used to be one of the top Main Eventers in the company, and now he does a talk show so he can be on TV. Is that cheap though? Man, that line blows. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SuperJerk 0 Report post Posted July 13, 2005 While it's not saying much, Cena could've done worse. At least he hasn't called Jericho "Y-2-Gay" yet. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I'd makr out if he called him "Y2Jerk". 'Cause, you know... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Corey_Lazarus 0 Report post Posted July 13, 2005 I'd mark out if one of them said "you Wicked McSuck," considering it's a phrase me and my friends use (adding "Wicked Mc" before a word) all the time. Yeah, Laz. Bringing the fucking content! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Just John 0 Report post Posted July 13, 2005 While it's not saying much, Cena could've done worse. At least he hasn't called Jericho "Y-2-Gay" yet. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> You know a few Ass Cream comments would be the perfect follow up. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I think we have a rough outline for Cena's promo for next week. All he needs is this: On the titan tron and Jericho to respond with some goofy facial expressions. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
UseTheSledgehammerUh 0 Report post Posted July 13, 2005 Prediction: How will John Cena's first concert in Philly go over? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
geniusMoment 0 Report post Posted July 13, 2005 When Cena's voice raised to a high pitch girlish tone, and he said something about covering something in cheap sauce I realized just how dorky his gimmick is. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RavishingRickRudo 0 Report post Posted July 13, 2005 It's the 2005 version of "Shut up Juice". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
razazteca 0 Report post Posted July 13, 2005 Prediction: How will John Cena's first concert in Philly go over? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Probably better than Randy Savage's "Hogan Sucks" rap concert or Chyna on Howard Stern. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dangerous A 0 Report post Posted July 13, 2005 Prediction: How will John Cena's first concert in Philly go over? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Probably better than Randy Savage's "Hogan Sucks" rap concert or Chyna on Howard Stern. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> That's not saying much. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Only The Strong Survive 0 Report post Posted July 13, 2005 I think we have a rough outline for Cena's promo for next week. All he needs is this: On the titan tron and Jericho to respond with some goofy facial expressions. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> When the hell did this occur? And why? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest *KNK* Report post Posted July 13, 2005 I can't believe of all the things to complain about; this is one of them. How hard is this to understand? Cheap. It's not complex in any shape or form. Cheap, it's an insult just like Asshole or "Scum". It means Jericho is low and resorts to anything it takes to get attention but not by anything of substance. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cheech Tremendous 0 Report post Posted July 13, 2005 I can't believe of all the things to complain about; this is one of them. How hard is this to understand? Cheap. It's not complex in any shape or form. Cheap, it's an insult just like Asshole or "Scum". It means Jericho is low and resorts to anything it takes to get attention but not by anything of substance. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> But it's so stupid, I think that people want to think there is a deeper meaning. I'm a smart guy and I didn't know what the hell he was talking about. And at the risk of starting a war with many on this board, I have to say.... how in the hell is this guy over and why is he WWE champion?! I've reserved comment for a while because the guy was on Smackdown and I rarely catch the show, but now I have seem him a few times on Raw and literally can't stand a thing he does. The guy is absolutely terrible in the ring. And not terrible in that he relies too heavily on spots to pop the crowd,, or has a weak looking finisher. He just literally looks like he has no idea what he's doing in there. There is no fluidity to his movement, the matches have no reliance on psychology and he blows spots all the time. His look is beyond awful. He doesn't look street or thug... he looks like the wiggers you see at the mall who have no idea how ridiculous they look. I don't think anything he does is edgey. In fact it's a ridiculous gimmick and its the sort of thing that makes me embarrassed when I show a non-fan. Furthermore, he's way overrated on the mic. Although I think he can talk, nothing he says makes me want to pay to see him and none of it gets over the feud or the guy he's working with. He relies too much on the gay bashing and street talk. Now if you think I'm wrong, enlighten me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dangerous A 0 Report post Posted July 13, 2005 I don't think the complaint is about the content of the word cheap, but how corny it sounds when Cena is using it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dangerous A 0 Report post Posted July 13, 2005 I can't believe of all the things to complain about; this is one of them. How hard is this to understand? Cheap. It's not complex in any shape or form. Cheap, it's an insult just like Asshole or "Scum". It means Jericho is low and resorts to anything it takes to get attention but not by anything of substance. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> But it's so stupid, I think that people want to think there is a deeper meaning. I'm a smart guy and I didn't know what the hell he was talking about. And at the risk of starting a war with many on this board, I have to say.... how in the hell is this guy over and why is he WWE champion?! I've reserved comment for a while because the guy was on Smackdown and I rarely catch the show, but now I have seem him a few times on Raw and literally can't stand a thing he does. The guy is absolutely terrible in the ring. And not terrible in that he relies too heavily on spots to pop the crowd,, or has a weak looking finisher. He just literally looks like he has no idea what he's doing in there. There is no fluidity to his movement, the matches have no reliance on psychology and he blows spots all the time. His look is beyond awful. He doesn't look street or thug... he looks like the wiggers you see at the mall who have no idea how ridiculous they look. I don't think anything he does is edgey. In fact it's a ridiculous gimmick and its the sort of thing that makes me embarrassed when I show a non-fan. Furthermore, he's way overrated on the mic. Although I think he can talk, nothing he says makes me want to pay to see him and none of it gets over the feud or the guy he's working with. He relies too much on the gay bashing and street talk. Now if you think I'm wrong, enlighten me. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> As far as in ring work, you are spot on. With the exception of the weapons filled brawl from Judgment Day, which masked the bad wrestling, Cena is terrible in the ring. He can be carried and has had watchable matches with Taker, Angle, and Benoit. However, that being said the rest of his work since he entered in WWE has sucked. He won't improve in the ring because he knows he doesn't have to. As far as his mic work and charisma, I can't front and say I don't see it. I'm not one for the whole "I'm real and from the streets" bit, but he does connect with the fans. As over as he is with the fans, he deserves a run with the title, but his in ring work is not that of what a champion should be. Cena isn't even better than Batista right now in ring and that says a lot because Batista is what I'd call barely watchable. Cena is pretty much unwatchable in the ring. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lord of The Curry 0 Report post Posted July 13, 2005 Cena is such an anomily because his match against Benoit showed that he could get it done more importantly that he "got it" when it came to telling a good story through ringwork, mannerisms and selling. And, while I know that it's Benoit, I think that it was all Cena in that match when it came to making himself look god. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cabbageboy 0 Report post Posted July 13, 2005 Well the hilarious thing about Cena looking like a suburban wigger that isn't from the street is that, well, that's true. I mean the guy is from a suburb of Boston, isn't he? I'm not sure where W. Newbury is but it hardly sounds like the guy is from Compton or East St. Louis. MA is associated with bluebloods, Irish drunks, and paranoid Red Sox fans. It's not exactly a place to be from if you want thug street cred. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dangerous A 0 Report post Posted July 13, 2005 Cena is such an anomily because his match against Benoit showed that he could get it done more importantly that he "got it" when it came to telling a good story through ringwork, mannerisms and selling. And, while I know that it's Benoit, I think that it was all Cena in that match when it came to making himself look god. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Problem is he hasn't shown anything remotely good after that perfomance. I guess the sun shines, even on a dog's ass. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brett Favre 0 Report post Posted July 13, 2005 That match against Taker was decent. He had a decent year vs. Eddie, Taker, Angle, and Benoit, but it's been straight downhill since. I don't know why. He's gotten worse instead of better. However he's the most over wrestler on the roster, so take that as reason 1, as to why he's holding the belt. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dangerous A 0 Report post Posted July 13, 2005 I definitely agree with you. Cena needs to stay on top for a bit as well. There are enough workers on Raw to make Cena look decent in ring. It's just that when Cena is asked to be "the man" in a match, it doesn't end well. Again, he is over enough to justify a title reign, you just wish he'd start to show more improvement in the ring. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites