MrRant 0 Report post Posted August 29, 2005 This was briefly touched upon in the NHL to OLN thread: Comcast/OLN Eyes ESPN's MLB August 22, 2005 By John Consoli Like a hungry shark circling its prey, Comcast and its Outdoor Life Network, now referred to as OLN, is continuing its low-key but determined move to take a bite out of cable sports kingpin ESPN. Not only did it snatch away cable rights for the National Hockey League for the next several years last week, but now Comcast/OLN has set its sights on landing Major League Baseball’s Sunday-Wednesday-night cable package, the rights to which expire at the end of the current season. That package also includes the MLB All-Star Game home run derby telecast, which produced hefty one-night ratings for ESPN this season. “Baseball is the bedrock of ESPN’s summer programming,” said one rival sports network executive. “There is so much baseball and very little other programming to replace it with during the summer. Hockey can be replaced by running more college basketball, but Comcast could deliver a severe body blow to ESPN if it can steal away these baseball rights.” ESPN does have the Tuesday-Thursday MLB TV rights through the end of the 2006 season, which also includes the MLB division playoff games that Fox does not air. That package was obtained when ESPN parent Disney acquired Fox Family Channel (now ABC Family) and is currently valued at $100 million. ESPN is also currently paying $141.5 million per year for the Sunday-Wednesday rights package. Sources familiar with the negotiations believe they have been delayed and slowed by ESPN’s efforts to gain broadband and cellular phone rights, among other value-added, nontraditional rights, which MLB has been hesitant to give up. “It’s late in the process for negotiations to still be going on” for the Sunday-Wednesday package, a competing network executive said. “It seems like ESPN was playing hardball with MLB and didn’t think there would be any other bidders. Now, they’ve put MLB in the driver’s seat.” The executive added that “for building-block purposes, baseball would be even more important to Comcast than hockey. And having both, plus maybe even the [Thursday-Saturday] NFL package, would give Comcast a year-round presence with major sports.” Another sports exec also questioned why ESPN decided in May to opt out of the final year of its NHL deal for which it would pay $60 million: “Even if ESPN were losing $40 million on the deal, it seems like a reasonable insurance policy to absorb it in order to keep the big bad wolf out of the hen house.” Losing a sizable portion of its MLB rights would present problems for ESPN. In particular, it could cause cable operators to push for a reduction in their subscriber fees and would cost the network significant ad revenue. “ESPN doesn’t need to have coverage of every sport, but it cannot lose coverage of its jewels. Major League Baseball is one of its jewels,” said a rival sports net exec. George Bodenheimer, chairman of ESPN and ABC Sports, acknowledged last week that Comcast and OLN “appear to be setting themselves up as a competitor,” but believes that the competition will push his network to get even better. “Our world is filled with competitors, but the prospects for ESPN have never looked brighter,” he added. “Our brand has never been stronger. We are comfortable with our position in the marketplace.” Bodenheimer said ESPN’s goal is to renew its Sunday-Wednesday package, although he would not comment on where the discussions stand or why a deal isn’t done yet. He also believes ESPN brings lots to the table for MLB. “Baseball Tonight and SportsCenter are the national programs of record for chronicling baseball,” he said. “And we feel we are in the best position to promote baseball.” Chris Tully, senior vp of broadcasting, MLB, also wouldn’t discuss the negotiations or why they have dragged out, but said, “Our challenge is to maximize the value of our national telecast packages from both an economic and promotional perspective. The sports marketplace is changing rapidly, and we’re taking a long-term strategic view. Obviously ESPN is not only a key player in that market but also a longstanding partner of MLB, and our continuing discussions with ESPN have been our primary focus to date.” But sources at MLB said while approving a new deal with ESPN would be a reality if all terms were equal, should another party come in with a more attractive offer, the league would not hesitate to choose that alternative. ESPN’s exclusive negotiating window expired in June, and sources inside and outside of MLB confirmed that TV rights discussions have taken place with Comcast/OLN. Another factor in the negotiations is MLB’s plan to start its own Baseball Channel, possibly before the start of next season. Were Comcast to include a provision to carry the Baseball Channel in any rights offer it proposed, it could be a sweetener that might lure MLB. For its part, Comcast and OLN officials are being careful not to rile ESPN, stating that their only goal is to “grow” OLN’s male audience base where it makes sense. But one sports league exec sees Comcast/OLN becoming a major factor in the sports TV world. “I think they can be a player,” he said. “Not necessarily on the ESPN level, but it doesn’t have to be to have an impact. If I were betting, I would bet that it will be a success story.” While preoccupied with negotiating new TV rights deals, ESPN’s Bodenheimer also has to deal with replacing Mark Shapiro, executive vp of programming and production, who oversaw all ESPN/ABC Sports programming. http://www.mediaweek.com/mw/news/recent_di...t_id=1001018603 Less Joe Morgan is a good thing folks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vampiro69 0 Report post Posted August 29, 2005 What Joe Morgan is the best Color man in baseball. Better then that hack McCarver. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MrRant 0 Report post Posted August 29, 2005 What Joe Morgan is the best Color man in baseball. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> What? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vampiro69 0 Report post Posted August 29, 2005 color commentator in baseball. I realize how that was written, so my bad. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cheech Tremendous 0 Report post Posted August 29, 2005 What Joe Morgan is the best Color man in baseball. Better then that hack McCarver. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> firejoemorgan.blogspot.com Joe is a curse on the baseball community. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EVIL~! alkeiper 0 Report post Posted August 29, 2005 Morgan is good at explaning what is happening on the field. For example, noting Abreu's walking lead on Sunday and that the catcher was probably warning the pitcher. As an analysist, he has gone completely insane. Dave Campbell of ESPN Radio is, to my knowledge, the best color commentator today. He used to appear on Baseball Tonight before ESPN decided that knowledge of the game was a detriment to programming. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vern Gagne 0 Report post Posted August 30, 2005 I enjoy Steve Stone and Steve Phillips. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
geniusMoment 0 Report post Posted August 30, 2005 Its not even close, Steve Stone is far and away the best announcer in the history of baseball. He has a strong knowledge of the game and his dry sense of humor would keep me tuned into Cubs games all summer long. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
UZI Suicide 0 Report post Posted August 30, 2005 Um, Vin Scully. That's all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vern Gagne 0 Report post Posted August 30, 2005 He's does play by play. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
the max 0 Report post Posted August 30, 2005 Isn't Scully by himself, though? Or maybe he talks so much that his other guy doesn't get a word in edge-wise. Like Monty in Major League. And I agree with the Dave Campbell praise. I miss him being on Baseball Tonight. I can't explain his absence. He must have eaten something out of the BBTN fridge that had Gammons's name on it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vern Gagne 0 Report post Posted August 30, 2005 Yeah Scully does the games by himself. Maybe Campell's tan blinded too many BTN viewers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EVIL~! alkeiper 0 Report post Posted August 30, 2005 Vin Scully's a great announcer, but I think he recites too many statistics. That's minor though. The big problem is that when he takes a break, that pompous ass Charlie Steiner takes over. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Czech Republic 0 Report post Posted August 31, 2005 I think he recites too many statistics. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Czech Republic 0 Report post Posted August 31, 2005 ...come on. We were all thinking it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EVIL~! alkeiper 0 Report post Posted August 31, 2005 Yeah, yeah. But seriously, the early innings of a Dodgers broadcast sounds like Scully is reciting the press notes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Czech Republic 0 Report post Posted September 1, 2005 Well if the Dodgers' early innings are viewed on TV the way they're attended live, no harm done. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EVIL~! alkeiper 0 Report post Posted September 1, 2005 That's the nice thing about the Dodgers. Their television and radio feeds are actually simulcast. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Czech Republic 0 Report post Posted September 1, 2005 More teams should do that. Cough cough, Cubs, cough cough. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DerangedHermit 0 Report post Posted September 1, 2005 More teams should do that. Cough cough, Cubs, cough cough. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Mets too. Gary Cohen and Howie Rose are awesome, and on TV, Fran Healy sucks, Ted Robinson and Dave O'brien are ok, Seaver kinda sucks, and Mex is one of the better ex-players turned commentators in the game Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mike546 0 Report post Posted September 2, 2005 Yankees have good tv, beside Kay, and the fact that the analysts they hire are former recent Yankees, (Justice and Girardi) so they never say anything bad about the players. Wish the TV feed would go on the radio, Sterling is awful and so is Waldman. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
the max 0 Report post Posted September 2, 2005 As for the Marlins, their tv crew is average. Rich Waltz makes me want to take my own life on numerous occasions. Tommy Hutton is a blatant homer and should not be allowed to yell under any circumstances. The Marlins radio crew is overrated as well, I think. Dave Van Horne has been the "voice of the Marlins" for years now, but he's decent at best. Roxy Berstein is a kiss-ass. I only hear the D-Rays television team of Dewayne Staats and Joe Magrane. My god, they are homers. Staats voice could be a torture device and Magrane's line of reasoning for things could be best described as "questionable". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanadianChris 0 Report post Posted September 2, 2005 You guys have Dave Van Horne? I used to love watching Expos telecasts when he was doing them. He and Ken Singleton were a great team. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mik 0 Report post Posted September 2, 2005 I like Rich Waltz and Tommy Hutton. Rich is a nice enthusiastic play by play man and Hutton is very knowledgeable. You want homerism, listen to the Brewers or Diamondbacks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mike546 0 Report post Posted September 2, 2005 You guys have Dave Van Horne? I used to love watching Expos telecasts when he was doing them. He and Ken Singleton were a great team. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Singleton does Yankee TV now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
the max 0 Report post Posted September 2, 2005 You know, I sounded bitter in my rant. I think I'll have another nicotine patch and go to bed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Czech Republic 0 Report post Posted September 2, 2005 You want homerism, listen to the Brewers or Diamondbacks. I do listen to the Brewers. Native Milwaukeean and former Brewer Bob Uecker wants his team to win. Damn him and such. There's good homerism, like Pat and Ron, or Bob Uecker, or Harry Caray, where you can tell they love their team, but they'll rip on them for screwing up because they have an emotional investment, being from the city, or playing for the team, what have you, and it upsets them. Then there's Hawk Harrelson. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vern Gagne 0 Report post Posted September 2, 2005 Twins announcers are like the teams offense. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mik 0 Report post Posted September 2, 2005 Actually, Czech, I was referring to the Brewers announce team when they were on MLB.TV, which didn't include Uecker. And after a quick look-up, apparently their names are Daron Sutton and Bill Schroeder. Just awful. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Czech Republic 0 Report post Posted September 2, 2005 Oh the TV guys, yeah I've watched them a few times, they're useless. Mlwaukee could also cut down to one broadcast crew. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites