NoCalMike Posted September 7, 2005 Report Posted September 7, 2005 http://www.apple.com/trailers/universal/jarhead/large.html Judge for yourself. It looks like one of those flicks that acts like it will push some political boundaries, but the ties to hollywood will prevent it from leaning to heavily in one direction.....
spman Posted September 7, 2005 Report Posted September 7, 2005 Since when has having ties to hollywood ever prevented any film makers from leaning to heavily to one direction? Ok, maybe not to the right, but I don't see anyone attempting to stifle the creative visions of nutjobs like Michale Moore and Oliver Stone.
Guest Vitamin X Posted September 7, 2005 Report Posted September 7, 2005 Looks pretty cool, actually, if it wasn't "Full Metal Jacket in Iraq `91".
NoCalMike Posted September 7, 2005 Author Report Posted September 7, 2005 Since when has having ties to hollywood ever prevented any film makers from leaning to heavily to one direction? Ok, maybe not to the right, but I don't see anyone attempting to stifle the creative visions of nutjobs like Michale Moore and Oliver Stone. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Eh you have a point, although Moore did get dropped initially, and picked up by a smaller company, and it opened in select theaters before going wide due to the arthouses getting bigger capacities then they could handle.
Richard Posted September 7, 2005 Report Posted September 7, 2005 Since when has having ties to hollywood ever prevented any film makers from leaning to heavily to one direction? Ok, maybe not to the right, but I don't see anyone attempting to stifle the creative visions of nutjobs like Michale Moore and Oliver Stone. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> There have been plenty of right-wing films, such as these classics. http://ruthlessreviews.com/80saction/rambo.php http://ruthlessreviews.com/80saction/reddawn.php http://ruthlessreviews.com/80saction/deathwish3.php
LaParkaYourCar Posted September 7, 2005 Report Posted September 7, 2005 Since when has having ties to hollywood ever prevented any film makers from leaning to heavily to one direction? Ok, maybe not to the right, but I don't see anyone attempting to stifle the creative visions of nutjobs like Michale Moore and Oliver Stone. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> There have been plenty of right-wing films, such as these classics. http://ruthlessreviews.com/80saction/rambo.php http://ruthlessreviews.com/80saction/reddawn.php http://ruthlessreviews.com/80saction/deathwish3.php <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Those are action films. I don't think anyone would consider those to be great political statements. But you were probably being sarcastic weren't you?
Special K Posted September 7, 2005 Report Posted September 7, 2005 Red Dawn is just as conservative as The Day After Tomorrow is liberal. If you only think documentaries count, there's plenty right-wing documentaries, they just go straight to video.
CheesalaIsGood Posted September 7, 2005 Report Posted September 7, 2005 I think those 80s flicks were meant as a particular point of view being right-wing. Which is why you should enjoy them for the high comedies that they are.
Placebo Effect Posted September 8, 2005 Report Posted September 8, 2005 Looks like typical Hollywood garbage. And that's not coming from a liberal or conservative stance. It just looks like crap, and whoever decided to use the lyrical part of that song in the trailer is an idiot.
Precious Roy Posted September 10, 2005 Report Posted September 10, 2005 Were any Nam movies actually made WHILE the war was still being fought? Between this and the show on FX it's too much too soon, it's bad enough being worried about the boys I know on the ground without it being mass marketed for entertainment purposes
Placebo Effect Posted September 10, 2005 Report Posted September 10, 2005 Were any Nam movies actually made WHILE the war was still being fought? Between this and the show on FX it's too much too soon, it's bad enough being worried about the boys I know on the ground without it being mass marketed for entertainment purposes <{POST_SNAPBACK}> This is pre-Desert Storm.
Masked Man of Mystery Posted September 10, 2005 Report Posted September 10, 2005 (edited) Were any Nam movies actually made WHILE the war was still being fought? Between this and the show on FX it's too much too soon, it's bad enough being worried about the boys I know on the ground without it being mass marketed for entertainment purposes <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I believe the God awful propoganda film The Green Berets was made by John Wayne during the war. IMDB info I can't believe George Takei worked on this Checked the site, yes, it was made during the war, and Takei missed The Trouble With Tribbles for THIS? Edited September 10, 2005 by Masked Man of Mystery
Precious Roy Posted September 10, 2005 Report Posted September 10, 2005 Were any Nam movies actually made WHILE the war was still being fought? Between this and the show on FX it's too much too soon, it's bad enough being worried about the boys I know on the ground without it being mass marketed for entertainment purposes <{POST_SNAPBACK}> This is pre-Desert Storm. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Ahh, my bad. So people are trying to make it political because it has an anti-war message? Start burning books...
Dangerous A Posted September 12, 2005 Report Posted September 12, 2005 Eh, I don't think it looks too preachy. Then again, it's just a trailer. Even if it is anti-war, who cares? I'd be more concerned with the November 2005 release. That's the launch of the holiday run of movies and this could get lost in the shuffle, especially if it has a downer feeling about it. Thing is, if they release it post Xmas, then it runs the risk of not making back much money, but as I stated earlier, it could get lost in the holiday movie shuffle and may not find an audience of people who want to see a movie about war during the holidays.
Mole Posted September 15, 2005 Report Posted September 15, 2005 Guys, this is a Sam Mendes movie. It won't be bad. I swear. Nuff said.
MDH257 Posted September 15, 2005 Report Posted September 15, 2005 This thread shows what the movie's biggest problem in getting people to see it will be. Some are obviously just going to watch the trailer and assume it's "liberal prop".
The Mandarin Posted October 9, 2005 Report Posted October 9, 2005 Oh, man did the commercial that aired during Impact look good. God bless Sam Mendes. Road to Peridition and American Beauty are two of my favourite movies of all time.
nogoodnick Posted October 10, 2005 Report Posted October 10, 2005 Having seen the trailer I really want to see this movie. I dont give a damn what the message is it just looks like a good film.
2GOLD Posted October 10, 2005 Report Posted October 10, 2005 I was underwelhmed by the cast and the trailer. I'll just stick to "Over there", even with it's horrible title. I didn't know "Jarhead" had a message so that doesn't influence me. Just don't get more than an "eh" from the trailer and not a fan of the director.
SuperJerk Posted October 10, 2005 Report Posted October 10, 2005 Were any Nam movies actually made WHILE the war was still being fought? Between this and the show on FX it's too much too soon, it's bad enough being worried about the boys I know on the ground without it being mass marketed for entertainment purposes <{POST_SNAPBACK}> This is pre-Desert Storm. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> The movie takes place DURING Desert Storm. I don't suppose any of you bashing this movie have actually SEEN IT have you? Didn't think so.
Art Sandusky Posted October 10, 2005 Report Posted October 10, 2005 Is anyone really pro-war outside of a given current situation? Does anyone honestly say "yeah man, war's the shit?"
Mole Posted October 11, 2005 Report Posted October 11, 2005 This movie is going to win a TON of Oscars. Calling it right now.
The Niggardly King Posted October 11, 2005 Report Posted October 11, 2005 This movie is going to win a TON of Oscars. Calling it right now. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> 5 nominations, only 1 win.
spiny norman Posted October 11, 2005 Report Posted October 11, 2005 I'm curious, did conservatives back in the day dismiss The Great Dictator, High Noon, In The Heat Of The Night and The Deer Hunter as liberal propaganda? There are plenty of movies with positive messages about America and plenty with negative messages. It doesn't necessarily affect the quality of the film, so why get hung up on it? And yeah, Mendes is all right by me so far, so I'll probably go see it unless I hear awful things about it.
dubq Posted October 11, 2005 Report Posted October 11, 2005 Been there. Done that. Watched Kubrick do it 1000x better.
bobobrazil1984 Posted October 11, 2005 Report Posted October 11, 2005 Sam Mendes directed this??? I can't see any way this could suck. Unless Akiva Goldsman wrote the script.
Guest MikeSC Posted October 11, 2005 Report Posted October 11, 2005 Were any Nam movies actually made WHILE the war was still being fought? Between this and the show on FX it's too much too soon, it's bad enough being worried about the boys I know on the ground without it being mass marketed for entertainment purposes<{POST_SNAPBACK}> This is pre-Desert Storm. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> The movie takes place DURING Desert Storm. I don't suppose any of you bashing this movie have actually SEEN IT have you? Didn't think so. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> By the same token, those defending it haven't seen it, either.
Guest Vitamin X Posted October 11, 2005 Report Posted October 11, 2005 Been there. Done that. Watched Kubrick do it 1000x better. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Agreed, but I'm pretty sure Sam Mendes will go about it a different way, Kubrick directed Full Metal Jacket with the intention of showing the dehumanization of war and the desensitation of violence it causes within the human psyche, while I think this is going for more of a different, social aspect to it. I'd hold off on any judgment until it comes out, Mendes is a more than competent director. I can't see any way this could suck. Unless Akiva Goldsman wrote the script. William Broyles, Jr. is credited with the screenplay. On the bright side, he penned Apollo 13 and Cast Away, but he also did the remake of Planet of the Apes, Entrapment, Unfaithful, and The Polar Express.
theintensifier Posted October 11, 2005 Report Posted October 11, 2005 This should be a half way decent movie. All the Marine Corps movies I've ever seen haven't scratched the surface of what it's really like to be in the Corps. Full Metal Jacket boot camp scenes were awfully tame compared to what I've seen and had done to me at boot camp.
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