What is your WWE match of the 3/4 year?

[Ripper 0]

I would put HBK as the MVP right now. I just don't enjoy Cena's work too much.

 

CM Punk is probably the MVP of North American wrestling this year. Wrestler of the year.....and he is working dark matches and 3 minute matches on Velocity....

 

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I just depressed my self.

[Guest *KNK*]

To summarize, so you don't have to read the above posting-

My WWE MOTY Rankings Thus Far

1) Cena vs. JBL, Judgment Day

2) Angle vs. Michaels- WrestleMania

3) Cena vs. Jericho vs. Christian- Vengeance

4) Benjamin vs. Michaels- RAW, May

5) Flair vs. Angle- Raw, June

6) Undertaker vs. Orton- WrestleMania

7) Rey Mysterio vs. Eddie Guerrero- SmackDown, May

8) Benoit vs. Regal- Velocity

9) Cena vs. Jericho- "You're Fired" Match

10) Undertaker vs. Orton- SummerSlam or Edge vs. Michaels- Raw, February

 

And I really hope to add Cena vs. Angle to that list.

 

Cena is WWE's MVP this year when it comes to PPV (and occasionally TV) and needs to be the company's #1 guy regardless of Triple H's return.

 

Anyways, all of the above is my stupid opinion so you might not like it and then you'll have to argue with me.

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I'll agree that Cena has stepped it up when it comes to PPV, I don't agree with your placement of JBL/Cena being placed on top but it was one of the better brawls of recent from WWE. They found Cena's niche formula that works.

 

That list is a great representive of just how horrid WWE has been this year.

[Guest *KNK*]

I would put HBK as the MVP right now.  I just don't enjoy Cena's work too much. 

 

CM Punk is probably the MVP of North American wrestling this year.  Wrestler of the year.....and he is working dark matches and 3 minute matches on Velocity....

 

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I just depressed my self.

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I have to completely agree with you. James Gibson is a close second as well and both are doomed to dark matches/jobber fodder.

 

Shawn Michaels, would rank #5 in North America in terms of MVP status

 

1. CM Punk

2. James Gibson

3. Roderick Strong

4. AJ Styles

5. Shawn Michaels

[Ripper 0]

No way I would put AJ over Christopher Daniels on any list thus knocking HBK out. ANd people might have started bitching about Joes ROH title run, but that muthafucka deserves to be up there too. Michaels is in the top 10 though.

[Papacita 0]

Any love for Angle/Eddie from the Smackdown title tourney following Mania? Typical stuff for them for the most part, but I remember enjoying that match a lot...actually more than the Michaels match at Mania.

 

Other than that, Michaels/Angle and Michaels/Shelton are pretty much givens, and I seem to recall a pretty good Jericho/Shelton match from Backlash, although it's been a while since I actually sat down to watch it. I liked Benoit/Regal, but I dunno if I liked it enough to call it a MOTYC though.

[Guest *KNK*]

No way I would put AJ over Christopher Daniels on any list thus knocking HBK out.  ANd people might have started bitching about Joes ROH title run, but that muthafucka deserves to be up there too.  Michaels is in the top 10 though.

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AJ Styles and Daniels, in my opinion could really switch things positions around, really just a preference of the moment.

 

Samoa Joe's title run this year was kinda confusing and thought to be unneccesary but it was a solid year but significantly below his 2004 run, I would easily slide Joe @ 6 behind Michaels. I only place Michaels above Joe because Shawn has had less to work with and done alot to make the best of it.

 

Samoa Joe is really picking up steam lately and I would fully expect him, by the end of the year slide right into the top three (if not the top) where he rightfully belongs.

[Naked Snake 0]

I'm partial to Michaels/Angle from Mania but I really liked Edge/Michaels Raw Street fight too.

[Jericholic82 0]

PPV:  Jericho v. Cena (I liked it better than Angle v. HBK, sue me).  This will buck popular opinion, but Orton-Taker was my favorite match at Mania.

 

TV:  I really liked the Edge-Benoit-HHH 3-way w/ the false title switch from early in the year, and I think there was an awesome Edge-Benoit match or two around that same time.  Rey and Eddie had a great match on TV before Mania, I guess it was the post-Vengenace one people have mentioned.  Angle v. Marty was awesome.  I liked Shelton v. HBK, but not as much as other people seem to.  Benoit v. Regal was great (better than Shelton/HBK IMO).  I didn't like the JBL/Taker matches much, but I've seen a lot of people pimping those.

 

Like people have said though, it's been a ***-**** year for the WWE, which makes it really hard to pick a clear cut MOTY.

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The Edge-Benoit-HHH 3 way was not from this year. It was from the last raw of november 2004 IIRC, but certainly not this year.

 

I havent seen all of the wwe ppvs this year (only seen Rumble,Mania, GAB, and Summerslam) so from what I have seen, my favorite match of this year is probably Angle-HBK I, although I liked The Rumble match itself a lot this year.

 

Honorable mention to Randy Orton vs Christian from RAW, surprised no one mentioned this one. One of the best matches I have seen from Orton. It was exciting and a bit dramatic and had a cool finish.

 

also any of the London-Akio matches from this year, specifically the one from Velocity in Japan

[World's Worst Man 0]

Angle vs. Michaels at WMXXI. I watched it again recently, and it holds up, even under intense scrutiny. Probably the only **** WWE match this year. Nothing else that I've seen even comes close. Honourable mention to Angle-Jannetty, Angle-Benjamin and Benjamin-Michaels.

 

Edit - Oh, there were a couple real good Triple H vs. Chris Benoit matches earlier in the year too. Add those to honourable mention.

[Jericholic82 0]

Angle vs. Michaels at WMXXI. I watched it again recently, and it holds up, even under intense scrutiny. Probably the only **** WWE match this year. Nothing else that I've seen even comes close. Honourable mention to Angle-Jannetty, Angle-Benjamin and Benjamin-Michaels.

 

Edit - Oh, there were a couple real good Triple H vs. Chris Benoit matches earlier in the year too. Add those to honourable mention.

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yea including the 3-14-05 RAW (the one year annivesary of wm 20) HH beat Benoit in a "pick your posion match" (Batista was able to choose HHHs opponent for the night), this was the same night of the rockers reuinon and Jake Roberts on the highlight reel with Orton

[The Mandarin 0]

I forgot to mention how Benoit had two very, very good matches with Christian and Edge two weeks in a row. Like, ***1/2 matches. Whoops.

[Lil' Bitch 0]

Angle / Michaels, WM 21 definitely.

[Lord of The Curry 0]

It's a toss-up for me between HBK-Angle from WM and HBK-Benjamin from RAW. I was going nuts watching them both live, mostly during the last few minutes of each.

 

Other matches that I think could qualify...

 

- Taker vs. Orton (WM)

- Money in the Bank (WM)

- Benoit vs. Regal (Velocity)

- Angle vs. Flair (RAW)

 

I don't want to come out and say that they could be the MOTY, but I remember really liking the HBK-Edge street fight (post-Rumble, when Angle attacked HBK) and Benoit-Edge match (post-WM), both on Raw.

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Care to elaborate on Angle vs Flair? Because if Flair hadn't bumped bigger then he normally does I'm not so sure people would be listing this one.

[Guest fanofcoils]

What about the Matt Hardy-Edge street fight on Raw? Honestly this is like the ONLY match I watched this year, and I watch every Raw and don't pay attention to the matches, except maybe the finishes. What made it interesting was to see how they would likely bury Matt more after what they did in the previous weeks to him, and it had a LOT of suspense with Edge and Matt getting the advantage back and forth. I was really hoping Edge would finally finish him off and then Matt gets the upper hand on Edge when he does that spot at the end to finish the match. The result was still good in a different way than "I hope Matt gets buried". After the match Matt finally looked good in the feud and could realistically could be rooted for, even now possibly, because it actually seems WWE may push him in this feud.

[Aero 0]

It's a toss-up for me between HBK-Angle from WM and HBK-Benjamin from RAW. I was going nuts watching them both live, mostly during the last few minutes of each.

 

Other matches that I think could qualify...

 

- Taker vs. Orton (WM)

- Money in the Bank (WM)

- Benoit vs. Regal (Velocity)

- Angle vs. Flair (RAW)

 

I don't want to come out and say that they could be the MOTY, but I remember really liking the HBK-Edge street fight (post-Rumble, when Angle attacked HBK) and Benoit-Edge match (post-WM), both on Raw.

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Care to elaborate on Angle vs Flair? Because if Flair hadn't bumped bigger then he normally does I'm not so sure people would be listing this one.

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To elaborate, I went back and watched the match again, this being the third viewing overall (First was live, and a second viewing the next day).

 

After really watching, it definitely wasn't as great as I remember, but I'd still consider it to be one of the more entertaining TV matches of the year. I guess I went a little far to call it a possible MOTY qualifier. It was basically Angle's wrestling vs. Flair's constant cheating, with, like you said, more bumps (belly-to-belly outside and backdrop outside) and just one blown spot (the superplex / super Angle slam attempt). While I still loved watching the match, it definitely didn't hold up as much as I thought. You win.

[Styles 0]

If we're just saying WWE MOTY (which is probably for the best as my list would be saturated with TNA and devoid of ROH since I havent seen any this year), here is my rough Top 10 list:

 

1. Kurt Angle vs. Shawn Michaels- Wrestlemania 21

2. Money In The Bank Ladder Match- Wrestlemania 21

3. Kurt Angle vs. Shawn Michaels- Vengeance

4. Rey Mysterio vs. Eddy Guerrero- Judgement Day

5. Hulk Hogan vs. Shawn Michaels- Summerslam

6. Elimination Chamber- New Year's Revolution

7. HHH vs. Batista- Vengeance

8. Rey Mysterio vs. Eddy Guerrero- Summerslam

9. John Cena vs. Chris Jericho- Summerslam

10. JBL vs. John Cena- Judgement Day

[Perfxion 0]

I give Benoit/Regal the nod. Angle HBK was too crappy to be MOTY. The whole leg hugging to no sell kills the match. Hell HBK vs Shelton was much better.

[AlwaysPissedOff 0]

Either HHH/Benoit, Pick Your Poison or Cena/JBL from Judgment Day for me.

[cabbageboy 0]

Yeah but CM in 2 of those matches you list Cena was either in a 3 way where he didn't do a huge amount or was being carried by Jericho (and neither of those are really great matches). As far as the JBL/Cena match goes...even a blind squirrel finds a nut occasionally.

 

If I had to go with a MOTY I'd say the Money in the Bank. I think more people would pick it if the long term point of the match had come into play yet, which is namely Edge cashing in the title shot.

[Guest *KNK*]

Yeah but CM in 2 of those matches you list Cena was either in a 3 way where he didn't do a huge amount or was being carried by Jericho (and neither of those are really great matches).  As far as the JBL/Cena match goes...even a blind squirrel finds a nut occasionally.

 

If I had to go with a MOTY I'd say the Money in the Bank.  I think more people would pick it if the long term point of the match had come into play yet, which is namely Edge cashing in the title shot.

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It would be picked if it wasn't so done to death. Aside from a couple nifty new spots and Benoit *gasp* using psychology in the match, it was the same old spot fest. Fun but hardly "MOTY".

[Hunter's Torn Quad 0]

I'd go with these five:

 

The MITB Ladder match at Wrestlemania

Kurt Angle v Shawn Michaels at Wrestlemania

Chris Benoit v Edge at Backlash

John Cena v JBL at Judgment Day

Shelton Benjamin v Shawn Michaels from Raw

 

In no way am I calling any of these MOTY-level affairs, but they the best matches that WWE have had this year.

[World's Worst Man 0]

I'd go with these five:

 

The MITB Ladder match at Wrestlemania

Kurt Angle v Shawn Michaels at Wrestlemania

Chris Benoit v Edge at Backlash

John Cena v JBL at Judgment Day

Shelton Benjamin v Shawn Michaels from Raw

 

In no way am I calling any of these MOTY-level affairs, but they the best matches that WWE have had this year.

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I agree that 4 of those 5 aren't MOTYCs. The ladder match and Cena-JBL especially, I didn't even think they were even more than average. I thought Angle-HBK was a MOTYC this year, even though it probably wouldn't finish in the top 5 in any other year. Probably right at the **** mark. Would have been more if not for some goofy stuff (like Angle not knowing what friggen ankle he was focusing on, the setup to the table spot). I've been seeing some criticism of the match though and was wondering what big problems there were aside from what I already listed.

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Angle vs HBK (WM) is the best PPV match this year so far I think. I dislike the beginning (nothing against matwrestling or slow wrestling but it wasnt as good as it could have been) and the ending is ridiculous (how long can Shawn actually take a ankle lock? Still a awesome match.

 

Regal vs Benoit - Hands down the best match on free tv. They did get a good amount of time and it was just plain hard wrestling. This is what I want from more of the wrestlers.

 

Money in the bank ladder match - Best gimmick match of the year probably. Just a damn good ladder match. I also enjoyed JBL vs Cena a great deal but the finish was crap (I understand what they went for and the idea was cool but it fell flat when they did it).

[Enigma 0]

I cannot believe people are even mentioning Kurt Angle vs. Ric Flair from June in this discussion.

 

The match was nothing but Angle backdropping Flair and Flair grabbing Angle's nuts constantly. I do believe Angle and Flair messed up a spot on the top rope, and Flair messed up getting clotheslined over the top rope at first so Angle had to clothesline him again (which is really becoming commonplace for Flair lately; I can't wait to see Carlito's newbieness kick in and freak out if it happens at Unforgiven).

 

Flair is such a shell of his former self and he's about to be 57. Please retire, Ric.

[The Mandarin 0]

Yeah but CM in 2 of those matches you list Cena was either in a 3 way where he didn't do a huge amount or was being carried by Jericho (and neither of those are really great matches).  As far as the JBL/Cena match goes...even a blind squirrel finds a nut occasionally.

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I wouldn't say the match was a case of "a blind squirrel finding a nut" but rather a smartly booked gimmick match that protected both guys and ended a feud. I think that if Cena and JBL knew about this match before WrestleMania, then both of them probably knew that JD would be the better match.

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I enjoyed the WM Ladder match a lot, because I was gearing up for a forgettable mess from what I assumed was a tired gimmick match formula. It also did wonders for Shelton at the time, not one blown spot throughout from anyone really, Kane fulfulling his role perfectly and though I hate to admit it, the right guy going over in the right manner.

 

The JBL/Cena street fight is the best thing either guy could ever hope to be involved with, and was good because Cena actually had a beating to come back from, as opposed to his usual going through the motions and his opponent never looking like any sort of threat.

 

I'd still go with Angle/Michaels as the finish was so good, and though I didn't agree with Shawn getting his win back it doesn't appeared to have hindered Angle in the long run as he's done his fucking about with no-hopers and now it's Michaels' turn while Kurt chases the title looking genuinely threatening.

 

I haven't seen Benoit/Regal.

[Lord of The Curry 0]

I find it funny that JR has been putting Angle over so hard lately. I guess they're convieniently forgetting the job to Michaels at Vengence.

[cabbageboy 0]

Well, therein lies the dilemma. What exactly is Angle going to do if he doesn't win the title against Cena? Really, what is there on the horizon for him? The face side on Raw is horrible and there isn't much for him to do. Besides Cena you have the old guys (Michaels, Flair) and Angle vs. Michaels is over for now. Angle's already squashed Shelton. Who else is there? Van Dam when he gets back?

[JoeDirt 0]

Well, therein lies the dilemma.  What exactly is Angle going to do if he doesn't win the title against Cena?  Really, what is there on the horizon for him?  The face side on Raw is horrible and there isn't much for him to do.  Besides Cena you have the old guys (Michaels, Flair) and Angle vs. Michaels is over for now.  Angle's already squashed Shelton.  Who else is there?  Van Dam when he gets back?

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I see a DQ finish at Unforgiven, and Cena winning a stipulation rematch at TT. Then maybe Angle feuds with a babyface HHH? HHH takes that feud and moves into a feud with Cena, unless they can work Hogan/Cena for WM.

[Precious Roy 0]

I think Angle gets a short term run with the belt, call me crazy.

 

the most likely scenario I see involving Angle with the belt is as a transition to HHH, who would then drop it back to Cena at Wrestlemania.