Kurt Angle Mark 0 Report post Posted September 13, 2005 From Dave Meltzer Due to the competition of Monday Night Football, last night's show had its lowest non-holiday rating of the year last night with a 3.3. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RavishingRickRudo 0 Report post Posted September 13, 2005 I was like... "That's not that bad" And then I remembered it wasn't Smackdown. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fökai 0 Report post Posted September 13, 2005 What was the rating for last year's first RAW v. MNF? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Smartly Pretty 0 Report post Posted September 13, 2005 The first Monday Night Football isn't a holiday? Damn that government of ours. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NYU 0 Report post Posted September 13, 2005 Well, you can only have Cena overcome the odds in a handicap match and get beat down afterwards so many times. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BorneAgain 0 Report post Posted September 14, 2005 I bet Coffey feels vindicated. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
razazteca 0 Report post Posted September 14, 2005 I bet they are going to blame this on Dusty Rhodes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Caliban 0 Report post Posted September 14, 2005 http://www.100megsfree4.com/wiawrestling/p.../wwf/wwfraw.htm August 18, 2003 4.0 August 25, 2003 4.2 September 1, 2003 4.3 September 6, 2004 3.7 September 13, 2004 3.6 September 20, 2004 3.7 September 27, 2004 3.5 October 4, 2004 3.4 October 11, 2004 3.4 October 18, 2004 3.0 October 25, 2004 3.7 The October 18 rating is the previous non-holiday low. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MillenniumMan831 0 Report post Posted September 14, 2005 Hmmm . . . I don't think the deck is quite stacked enough . . . lemme think . . . WWE Champion John Cena will compete NEXT WEEK . . . against his opponent Kurt ANGLE . . . & Tyson TOMKO!!! AND SNITSKY!!! And their partner . . . EDGE!!! Who will be joined by . . . . . KKKKKAAAAANNNNEEEE!!! Let's see you beat those odds John Cena. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest rawmvp Report post Posted September 14, 2005 I hope this ends the discussion of Cena being a draw or the next big thing. Cause he ain't. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hunter's Torn Quad 0 Report post Posted September 14, 2005 I hope this ends the discussion of Cena being a draw or the next big thing. Cause he ain't. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Do you even think about what you post, or do you just bash the keyboard blindly? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Fishyswa Report post Posted September 14, 2005 Seriously guys, first head to head with MNF, and this is supposed to be some sort of ultimate sign of whether or not someone draws? It's a throw away rating. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kahran Ramsus 0 Report post Posted September 14, 2005 Especially when there is a brawl 20 minutes before the game. I called up a bunch of people after that happened and told them to turn the game on. I'm sure others did the same. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest rawmvp Report post Posted September 14, 2005 Look, all I'm saying is that Cena isn't the next Rock, Austin or Hogan. Let's forget today's rating. Has Cena impacted RAW's ratings in any way after coming over from Smackdown? NO. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ripper 0 Report post Posted September 14, 2005 Especially when its the Eagles vs the Falcons. Too much star power in that one people. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest *KNK* Report post Posted September 14, 2005 Look, all I'm saying is that Cena isn't the next Rock, Austin or Hogan. Let's forget today's rating. Has Cena impacted RAW's ratings in any way after coming over from Smackdown? NO. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Nor should he be the next Rock, Austin or Hogan. Has anything impacted Raw's ratings? Other then the obvious and staggering display of the decline in quality and lack of creative juice? Yes. WWE's inability to move with the times. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hunter's Torn Quad 0 Report post Posted September 14, 2005 Let's forget today's rating. Has Cena impacted RAW's ratings in any way after coming over from Smackdown? no. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Ratings are not the best way to judge if someone is a draw or not. Money drawn is. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Brian Report post Posted September 14, 2005 Look, all I'm saying is that Cena isn't the next Rock, Austin or Hogan. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Is that where you draw the line? Or should I call it a glass ceiling? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest fanofcoils Report post Posted September 14, 2005 I think Big Show vs Snitsky may be one of the top reasons the rating was low, starting off Raw with that against MNF = not good. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest rawmvp Report post Posted September 14, 2005 House show and TV audiences have also remain unchanged since Cena came over. BUT!!! he sells lots of T-shirts. Big Deal. So does the Hurricane. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest *KNK* Report post Posted September 14, 2005 Let's forget today's rating. Has Cena impacted RAW's ratings in any way after coming over from Smackdown? no. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Ratings are not the best way to judge if someone is a draw or not. Money drawn is. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> The concept of how business works and it's practices is far beyond his mental capabilities. Allow him to believe Ratings are the be all end all for properly factoring a worker's draw ability. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hunter's Torn Quad 0 Report post Posted September 14, 2005 BUT!!! he sells lots of T-shirts. Big Deal. So does the Hurricane. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Hello #30. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest fanofcoils Report post Posted September 14, 2005 Cena has proven he could be over and somewhat entertaining (on Smackdown). On Raw he is over and not entertaining. I think the not entertaining part matters much more BTW. He hasn't proven he could be anywhere close to "the man" or run with the ball yet. Is he closer than anyone of being "the man"? No, I would say Christian for instance is closer (if WWE actually pushed him) because he proved himself that he can be more entertaining. Same with Carlito (more entertaining despite his "workrate" issues) and heel HBK. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest rawmvp Report post Posted September 14, 2005 "Hello #30." What? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Fishyswa Report post Posted September 14, 2005 Honestly, I don't like the Cena character for a number of reasons, but when my little brother who thinks wrestling is "gay" comes home from school and spends 10 minutes asking me questions about the guy, it's pretty clear he's making a connection to the fanbase. The kids love him, and if WWE wasn't in such a position with there TV, I think he would of made SD the superior show, not in terms of quality, but popularity. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RavishingRickRudo 0 Report post Posted September 14, 2005 Don't bother asking HTQ why, cause Quad 3:16 sez "I just ignored your ass". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest rawmvp Report post Posted September 14, 2005 It doesn't matter how many kids love Cena. This isn't 1985 or 1990. In order for wrestling to reach the heights it once did, it has to appeal to the 18-25 demographic like it did in 1997-2000. Nobody would buy another Rock n Wrestling, cartoonish 2005 WWE Era, after everyone has already seen the Attitude Era. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Fishyswa Report post Posted September 14, 2005 Kids will buy whatever appeals to them, regardless. They think less and therefore are more impulsive. Besides, a 10 year old wouldn't even remember the Attitude era. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest rawmvp Report post Posted September 14, 2005 BUT!!! he sells lots of T-shirts. Big Deal. So does the Hurricane. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Hello #30. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Don't bother asking HTQ why, cause Quad 3:16 sez "I just ignored your ass". <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Lame. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob_barron 0 Report post Posted September 14, 2005 Can you tell us what happened with you and that girl...and then go away? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites