TNA Comments which don't warrant a thread

[ChrisMWaters 0]

I'd actually prefer to keep the NWA Titles.

 

More history, more prestige, more lineage.

 

Or at least that's what they can claim on the shows.

[Corkscrew_Senton 0]

Sting beat the shit out of him on the last PPV. Also, Meltzer is reporting that he will be back with a new monster to take out Sting.

 

Matt Morgan? Giant Bernard?

 

Giant Bernard would get a big F YEAH from me. His work in Japan = Awesome

[ChrisMWaters 0]

Sting beat the shit out of him on the last PPV. Also, Meltzer is reporting that he will be back with a new monster to take out Sting.

 

Matt Morgan? Giant Bernard?

 

Giant Bernard would get a big F YEAH from me. His work in Japan = Awesome

Problem in my eyes with that:

 

How many people will see him as yet another WWE cast-off into TNA?

[Corkscrew_Senton 0]

Sting beat the shit out of him on the last PPV. Also, Meltzer is reporting that he will be back with a new monster to take out Sting.

 

Matt Morgan? Giant Bernard?

 

Giant Bernard would get a big F YEAH from me. His work in Japan = Awesome

Problem in my eyes with that:

 

How many people will see him as yet another WWE cast-off into TNA?

 

Considering how often angles are booked with guys who hated each other a month before teaming up, do you think it would be viable for TNA to bring him in and just talk about him as this monster gaijin star from Japan (e.g. wrestling fans' "short term memory")? Maybe play up his New Japan Cup championship, his headlining an IWGP title match, etc.? He's just too gold right now to not be in the States, if booked properly he could be the new early 90s Vader.

[razazteca 0]

Albert is the stereotypically WWE big guy and TNA already has 4 of those. There is nothing special about Albert. Why should the average TNA fan care about him when they are bored to tears with Tomko, Hoyt, Nash? Hell TNA is trying to turn Abyss face for god's sake!!!!!! Why the hell is TNA turning into WWF 1995?

[TNABaddboi 0]

More on the titles, from the Torch:

 

PWTorch has learned that TNA Wrestling and the NWA have agreed to a split of their partnership.

 

Bob Trobich, head of legal for the NWA, and Steve Campbell, head of legal for Panda Energy as representative of TNA, have negotiated to terminate the working agreement between the NWA and TNA. NWA will take back possession of the NWA Hvt. Title and NWA Tag Titles with a storyline to be set up at the Destination X PPV.

 

Jeff Jarrett has been the third party representing TNA during the negotiations to cease the working relationship.

 

There have been a lot of rules that the NWA has that TNA has not been following. As TNA has grown, and as the NWA name has become less of a marketing asset, a split was considered a strong possibility. TNA long ago stopped using the title "NWA-TNA" as its name.

 

TNA aligned with the NWA initially because TNA founder Jerry Jarrett, Jeff's father, believed that the "NWA" name carried credibility with the target audience for the weekly Wednesday night PPV format TNA began with. The heritage of the NWA World Title has been a marketing tool for TNA over its four-plus year history. TNA, though, did not want to abide by NWA rules such as having to notify the NWA board ahead of time when a title change was planned, use the NWA name in all marketing, and pay the NWA a fee if TNA ran an event in another NWA member's territory. For those and a variety of other reasons, an agreement to split has been reached.

 

TNA's titles will lose the NWA label and become TNA titles. How TNA will handle the "lineage" aspect of the storyline shift is not known yet. This has happened before, such as when ECW and World Class Championship Wrestling split from the NWA in the mid-1990s and mid-1980s respectively.

[razazteca 0]

They should of done this when Jeff Jarrett was winning the belt via screw job at every PPV. I guess another screw can't hurt here's hoping that the promo afterwards comes off well on tv. So is there going to be an ROH Invasion with them winning the belt for good?

[luke-o 0]

I can only imagine Cage will proclaim his win over Joe as "his time" and then proclaim the title as the TNA title.

[TNABaddboi 0]

More from Mike Johnson:

 

It's just a matter of time, but Total Nonstop Action Wrestling will soon no longer hold the rights to the National Wrestling Alliance championship and Tag Team championship name and belts.

 

The NWA and TNA have been at odds over financial compensation in regard to the championships for several months. The most notable issue is said to have been been whether TNA would need to financially compensate local NWA promoters who hold territory rights when TNA live events featuring NWA championship defenses are held within their territory. Obviously, as TNA plans to run more and more live events, that would become a grander issue between the two sides. There may have been additional factors as well, but sources from both sides have confirmed the situation mainly revolved around financial issues.

 

TNA originally licensed the championships and usage of the NWA name when the promotion launched in June 2002 as a weekly PPV series. At the time, the company, then owned by Jerry Jarrett, used the name NWA:TNA, although in recent years they have backed off on the usage of the National Wrestling Alliance name, pushing the TNA Wrestling brand foremost.

 

At the time of their launch, the NWA name helped lend credibility to the fledgling company, although with TNA now holding a weekly primetime TV slot on SpikeTV, the importance of the NWA name has greatly diminished.

 

Attorney Steven Campbell, representing TNA and NWA lead counsel Robert Trobich have been in discussions in recent weeks about how to handle the situation and may have already come to terms on an agreement on how to handle the championship switches. Jeff Jarrett was involved with discussions at one point before Campbell and Trobich took the reigns of the negotiations. The NWA side felt at one point that Jarrett was dragging his feet in rectifying the situation, paving the way for Trobich and Campbell to work out agreements.

 

It is believed that TNA will continue to recognize their current champions as "TNA" champions and appear with new belts, while something will be done (a stripping or a title change that is not acknowledged on TNA's weekly television) to move the lineage of the NWA title forward towards its next champion.

 

The eventual successor to the NWA championship is believed to be former ROH champion "American Dragon" Bryan Danielson, who returned to the ring over the weekend for NWA Extreme Canadian Championship Wrestling in Vancouver, British Columbia. After the show, Danielson cut a backstage promo that has been heavily featured on the NWA's official website, challenging for a title match. Danielson was in attendance with a number of NWA officials at the PRIDE MMA event in Las Vegas several weeks back and is expected to end up with the championship once all the dust and negotiations settle.

 

I have no confirmation on how the NWA Tag straps will be handled at this time.

[Hawk 34 0]

I just love that the ROH World, NOAH GHC and NWA World Title will all be a part of the same promotion for at least some time.

[luke-o 0]

Man, some people take wrestling a little bit too seriously...

[Corkscrew_Senton 0]

I just love that the ROH World, NOAH GHC and NWA World Title will all be a part of the same promotion for at least some time.

 

Don't kid yourself, no one from ROH is every bringing back the GHC Heavyweight...or well, any GHC title to the United States. I think the Briscoes week-along Jr. tag team reign that never left Japan is the closest it's going to get.

[AlaskanHero 0]

Two things immediately came to my mind when I heard the news that NWA and TNA were going seperate ways.

 

1.] It's depressing that Joe likely won't ever get to hold the NWA World Title

 

and

 

2.] As much as I like TNA, Bryan Danielson is gonna make the NWA title more prestigious than it was at any point in TNA. And I'm not even a fan of Bryan Danielson.

[Hunter's Torn Quad 0]

One of the latest Observers says that the LAX/Team 3D 'Ghetto Brawl' at Destination X is intended to lead to an electrified cage match at Lockdown.

[USC Wuz Robbed! 0]

Is Russo inventing stipulations just to see how outlandish things could get?

[Hunter's Torn Quad 0]

It's almost scary when you realize that Russo is probably going to come up with a stupid gimmick to add to each cage match. Two gimmicks killed in each match.

[luke-o 0]

What's even more scary is that this will be the what, 7th time they'd faced each other now?

[cd213 0]

I don't mind when two wrestlers/teams face off against each other a number of times. I don't know what the big deal is, it's called a feud. I don't know if it's because the average wrestling fan's attention span is shorter or not, but back in the day feuds would last a year +. There is nothing wrong with a feud lasting longer then one match.

[USC Wuz Robbed! 0]

Could be because they are not really getting the heat necessitated for a 7th match. Though no, the scarier thing is the gimmicks, not the duration of the feud.

[Mike wanna be 0]

Kinda hard to get heat when you have a 20 minute PPV match hyped by a total of (at most) 15 minutes of television time.

[USC Wuz Robbed! 0]

That's why it's not that scary.

[luke-o 0]

I don't mind when two wrestlers/teams face off against each other a number of times. I don't know what the big deal is, it's called a feud. I don't know if it's because the average wrestling fan's attention span is shorter or not, but back in the day feuds would last a year +. There is nothing wrong with a feud lasting longer then one match.

 

I understand that, but this fued has been:

 

LAX vs Team 3D in a gimmick match

LAX vs Team 3D in a gimmick match

LAX vs Team 3D in a gimmick match

LAX vs Team 3D in a gimmick match

LAX vs Team 3D in a gimmick match

LAX vs Team 3D in a gimmick match

LAX vs Team 3D in a gimmick match

 

Apart from stupid different gimmicks, this fued has been the same all the way through. It's almost as if Russo was using Team 3D/LAX as guinea pigs for his new tag team match gimmicks.

[cd213 0]

That's really the only way to get Team 3D over nowadays. Back when they were in ECW they got the heat they needed to get over. Today though, they can't get the heat of yesterday. People have grown bored of them. The best way to get someone over with today's wrestling fan is to do gimmic matches. Fans will pop for tables, but they don't pop for pure wrestling, atleast not "smarks."

[Broward83 0]

That's really the only way to get Team 3D over nowadays. Back when they were in ECW they got the heat they needed to get over. Today though, they can't get the heat of yesterday. People have grown bored of them. The best way to get someone over with today's wrestling fan is to do gimmic matches. Fans will pop for tables, but they don't pop for pure wrestling, atleast not "smarks."

 

Bullshit. You get 3D over by having them realize that LAX is slowly becoming a face team that is embodying the market that both TNA and WWE are going for. By putting 3D into more of a heel mindset, you get both Devon and Bubba back into the roles of two guys that went out and attacked the fans, that jumped down people's throats and didn't give a fuck what you thought because god dammit, they were the fuckin Dudley Boys and they're simply going to beat the respect out of you.

 

You don't need to keep throwing them into gimmick matches to get 'em over, you throw a singles match between the two teams in there once and awhile. Homicide VS Bubba.. Hernandez VS Devon.. after a bit of time, switch the matches up to freshen things up.

 

By putting them in re-tread street fights and "ghetto fights", you wind up burning out the fans on two teams that can have a good match with good heat if you let them build it up.

 

Granted, part of that takes Bubba not being a bickering little baby and give LAX their due..

 

As far as "tables VS pure wrestling" ... TNA fans loved the pure wrestling of the X-Division, of others that can link a match together and make it mean something. Look at Joe/Angle.. there weren't tables and spotfests.. you had two guys WRESTLING (OMGWTF11!!~ right?) and those fans ate it up. So don't say that the only way to get people over in TNA is with gimmick matches when its been proven otherwise.

[cd213 0]

That's really the only way to get Team 3D over nowadays. Back when they were in ECW they got the heat they needed to get over. Today though, they can't get the heat of yesterday. People have grown bored of them. The best way to get someone over with today's wrestling fan is to do gimmic matches. Fans will pop for tables, but they don't pop for pure wrestling, atleast not "smarks."

 

Bullshit. You get 3D over by having them realize that LAX is slowly becoming a face team that is embodying the market that both TNA and WWE are going for. By putting 3D into more of a heel mindset, you get both Devon and Bubba back into the roles of two guys that went out and attacked the fans, that jumped down people's throats and didn't give a fuck what you thought because god dammit, they were the fuckin Dudley Boys and they're simply going to beat the respect out of you.

 

You don't need to keep throwing them into gimmick matches to get 'em over, you throw a singles match between the two teams in there once and awhile. Homicide VS Bubba.. Hernandez VS Devon.. after a bit of time, switch the matches up to freshen things up.

 

By putting them in re-tread street fights and "ghetto fights", you wind up burning out the fans on two teams that can have a good match with good heat if you let them build it up.

 

Granted, part of that takes Bubba not being a bickering little baby and give LAX their due..

 

As far as "tables VS pure wrestling" ... TNA fans loved the pure wrestling of the X-Division, of others that can link a match together and make it mean something. Look at Joe/Angle.. there weren't tables and spotfests.. you had two guys WRESTLING (OMGWTF11!!~ right?) and those fans ate it up. So don't say that the only way to get people over in TNA is with gimmick matches when its been proven otherwise.

 

I never said the only way to get people over in TNA is gimmic matches, I said the only way to get the Dudley's over that way is. No one seems to care about them anymore. It's the same reason why the WWE decided to put John Cena in a team with Michaels and against people like Edge and Orton. People stopped caring for Cena so they put him with their number one face and against the two most hated wrestlers. It's only a way to get someone over. Seeing that TNA doesn't seem to have clear cut faces and heels there is no one to align the Dudley's with to do that. (I know that certain wrestlers are heel and face but most are in that gray area.).

[Mike wanna be 0]

Time's at a premium as it is; they aren't going to burn 5 minutes of it to get 1/2 of two tag teams over, they're going to make it a tag match. Plus they're trying to get everybody on the show every week so it's easier to have them in one match rather than two.

[Hunter's Torn Quad 0]

I never said the only way to get people over in TNA is gimmic matches, I said the only way to get the Dudley's over that way is. No one seems to care about them anymore. It's the same reason why the WWE decided to put John Cena in a team with Michaels and against people like Edge and Orton. People stopped caring for Cena so they put him with their number one face and against the two most hated wrestlers. It's only a way to get someone over. Seeing that TNA doesn't seem to have clear cut faces and heels there is no one to align the Dudley's with to do that. (I know that certain wrestlers are heel and face but most are in that gray area.).

What Raw have you been watching? You must have some strange definition of the word "caring", because the people haven't come close to not caring about Cena.

[Dobbs 3K 0]

I never said the only way to get people over in TNA is gimmic matches, I said the only way to get the Dudley's over that way is. No one seems to care about them anymore. It's the same reason why the WWE decided to put John Cena in a team with Michaels and against people like Edge and Orton. People stopped caring for Cena so they put him with their number one face and against the two most hated wrestlers. It's only a way to get someone over. Seeing that TNA doesn't seem to have clear cut faces and heels there is no one to align the Dudley's with to do that. (I know that certain wrestlers are heel and face but most are in that gray area.).

What Raw have you been watching? You must have some strange definition of the word "caring", because the people haven't come close to not caring about Cena.

 

Exactly. Just because a lot of us on this board are bored by Cena's act, doesn't mean most of the people in the arenas and watching at home are. He still gets huge pops.

 

I just wish he'd change things up a little bit...also, does he have any other clothes? He's been wearing the same outfit for almost a year, it seems like.

[Hunter's Torn Quad 0]

TNA Lockdown PPV main event

 

A War Games type match with Team Christian vs. Team Angle. No NWA title match in St. Louis.

 

Meltzer

[Hunter's Torn Quad 0]

One of the latest Observers says that the LAX/Team 3D 'Ghetto Brawl' at Destination X is intended to lead to an electrified cage match at Lockdown.

The Electrified Cage match was announced at the tapings to be taking place at Lockdown.