Vince Russo On JR

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RUSSO: EVEN THOUGH WE DIDN’T ALWAYS AGREE, JIM ROSS DESERVED BETTER

By: Vince Russo

10/12/2005 11:01:11 AM

 

EVEN THOUGH WE DIDN’T ALWAYS AGREE---JR DESERVED BETTER

 

Since my life has taken on a new direction some two years ago now, I must admit that I really don’t watch wrestling anymore. Having a new outlook on life, courtesy of God, the things that appealed to me for a good portion of my life—42 years to be exact—just don’t “float my boat” any more—pardon the pun.

 

But I will admit, I still flip around during commercials—a habit which none of us will ever break. This past Monday night between innings of the Yankees/Angels game, I happened to “flip to” Raw when Jim Ross was in the ring.

 

You know, I swore when Jesus saved my life I would never comment on “mainstream wrestling” again, but this time I have to—not because it has anything to do with wrestling, or an angle, but because it has to do with everything that’s wrong with society.

 

In my book “Forgiven”, that’s due out in a few weeks, I talk at great length about Jim Ross, and my relationship with him. I’ll be the first to admit that there were times when I was tough on him, and it wasn’t personal—it was strictly business. But, at the time my view was clouded . . . much clouded. Why? Because I never put myself in the shoes of Jim Ross. I had never walked one step in his boots. Put aside the personal setbacks in his life; the bouts with bells palsy, the death of his mother—who meant the world to him, I’m talking about the taxing job called “Talent Relations”. Fans of the business really have no idea the thanklessness of this job—yes, even more thankless than that of a television writer. Forget about having to please a roster full of wrestlers, many with egos larger than the average man could ever fathom, but the demands from Vincent K. himself . . . you just had to be there to understand. But with unexplainable patience, Jim Ross did it. From a personal level did I always agree with his decisions, of course not, but then again—we’re all guilty of being Tuesday morning quarterbacks. Could I have done a better job? Probably not—but then again—I would have never wanted the position in the first place.

 

In wrestling we all have egos, some bigger . . . much bigger . . . than others. I’d be lying if I didn’t say that JR didn’t have an ego—and I think he’d tell you the same thing. But the difference between JR and some of the boys was that JR truly, truly, loved his job. That’s much more than I can say about myself. JR took great pride in being, “the best play-by-play man in the business", and he should have—because he was. To him—being out there every Monday night was what he lived for. The truth? There was no better. Was he a bit “over the top” at times, of course he was—but—his love, heart, desire, and passion for what he calls “the game” wasn’t, isn’t and will never be matched.

 

During the Raw boom in the late 90’s, I’ll tell you right here, right now—I wanted to replace both Lawler and JR. At the time we’re talking about the “Attitude” era, when sports-entertainment was as close to reality as it was ever going to get. Personally, I just had a problem with a guy wearing a crown and a guy in a cowboy hat selling it to me. When all else was as “real” as wrestling could ever get—in my opinion, we had two blatant “characters” trying to sell it. But, that was all about personal “taste”; it had nothing—NOTHING—to do with the ability of Lawler, or Ross..

 

So in hindsight, I can understand the WWE brass wanting to replace JR—things change—you have to evolve. Growing up I can remember Ralph Kiner, Lindsay Nelson and Bob Murphy calling Met games. Man, in my head I can still hear their voices—but that was then—this is now. Things just change . . . look at me. No, I don’t have a problem with the “business” decision, but as not only a Christian but as a human being, I just have a problem with the way they did it.

 

You know what, there are a lot of things you can say about Vince Russo back “in the day”, BUT one thing I will say—I never—NEVER—treated anybody disrespectfully. Yeah, my button was pushed on a few occasions, but all-in-all I treated people the same way I wanted to be treated. Even though JR and I weren’t on the same page at many times—I can sit here and say that when I worked with him—and when I wrote for him—I never made him the BUTT-end of a joke. One of my personal, professional highlights came when JR had his own announcer’s desk built during an episode of Raw—to me that was entertainment---and JR was priceless.

 

But on the other side of that coin---when WCW backed me into a corner—when they wanted ratings yesterday—I did the despicable. I sent Ed Ferrera out there and asked him to do a parody of JR. There is much more about that in “Forgiven”, but let me just say—if there is anything I could ever take back that I did in the wrestling business—that was at the top of my list. Again—at that time we were going after the WWF, and we were going hard—I was stopping at NOTHING. What a horse’s !@#$ I was. Again—you will never understand the pressure I was under—if you think for one minute that I was thinking straight—you’re wrong—but still, that’s no excuse. I ask God everyday for forgiveness—and I hope this column serves as an open, public apology to JR.

 

BUT—with that being said—what’s the WWE’s excuse? I mean, not only isn’t there a ratings war—but the guy is on their team! Why, do they make a guy who has been so loyal to their company—the BUTT end of their jokes? Well, there’s only one good reason for that—because they can . . . they will . . . and they don’t care.

 

Yes—it’s all a work my friends, all “made-up”, all “make-believe”. But—there isn’t a single person in that company who doesn’t know what announcing means to JR. From having him kiss Vince’s BUTT to having Linda low-kick him—JR has been degraded as a human being every way humanly possible. And that’s the problem I have with the business. Replacing JR was no doubt traumatic to him—NO DOUBT—if not for anything else—why not let the guy go out with dignity? Why not let the guy go out on his own terms—with his head held high and not squirming on the mat like a helpless imbecile? Why? Because it was funny? I don’t know . . . maybe it’s me . . . but I wasn’t laughing. I wasn’t laughing because there was just more evilness behind it then you’ll ever know . . . but again that’s the wrestling business and that’s why I now play for the “other” team.

 

But, you know what—there also needs to come a time when you just say to the boss, “Sorry, Vince . . . I’m just not going to do that.” I completely understand that that is easier said then done. There is a lot of money at stake . . . and everything else that goes with it . . . BUT . . . you know what really comes with money—NOTHING. Take it from a guy who once had it, doesn’t have it any more, and doesn’t want it. Money is not worth anybody’s dignity. JR is talented enough to get a job calling whatever he wants. And at the end of the day, if his dreams come true and he’s up there in that Sooner booth—guess what—he doesn’t have to worry about anybody kicking him in the jewels to get their jollies—that just doesn’t happen out here in the “real” world.

 

Man, we need to re-think were we’re at. Don’t give me that angle nonsense—we need to start treating people with dignity and respect—especially in the wrestling business. The change has to start somewhere—and I hope it does here.

 

Again—JR—to the world, I’m sorry for any pain I’ve ever caused you, and I have to deal with that every day, but my friend—I’m telling you—you deserve better . . . much better.

 

A fan of JR’s,

 

Vince Russo

 

http://www.1wrestling.com/news/newsline.asp?news=24254

[BorneAgain 0]

If that's not a damn sight to see, apparently Ed Ferrara also had some comments.

 

http://www.1wrestling.com/news/newsline.asp?news=24257

[Gary Floyd 0]

First Vince and Bret shake hands, now this.

 

It's official: We are living in some kind of alternate dimension.

[Guest Coffey]

Man, I can't make it through the article because of all the "oh, it's ok, I have faith now" bullshit.

[Guest I miss Test.]

I see their point... but, JR is going to be on TV again, in some form.

[Guest clockworkraven]

Man, I can't make it through the article because of all the "oh, it's ok, I have faith now" bullshit.

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Russo's final point is fine, and fully understandable, but I completely agree with this.

[Vern Gagne 0]

That faith removed Russo from the wrestling business.

[Guest Coffey]

That faith removed Russo from the wrestling business.

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As evidenced by him writing wrestling articles and having his own Christian-themed wrestling company?

[RavishingRickRudo 0]

I like how he keeps on reminding everyone that he's found God now.

[chaosrage 0]

You know, I swore when Jesus saved my life

 

What is it with professional wrestling and jesus?

[Vern Gagne 0]

That faith removed Russo from the wrestling business.

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As evidenced by him writing wrestling articles and having his own Christian-themed wrestling company?

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That's not main stream stuff though.

[Guest clockworkraven]

You know, I swore when Jesus saved my life

 

What is it with professional wrestling and jesus?

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Jesus pulled one of the greatest kip-ups in history. The man no-sold death.

[Fökai 0]

You know, I swore when Jesus saved my life

 

What is it with professional wrestling and jesus?

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Addictions, adultery, severe depression...

[RavishingRickRudo 0]

...Fakes.

[Guest MikeSC]

You know, I still think he was a shit writer --- but that was one of the classier things Russo ever wrote.

[UseTheSledgehammerUh 0]

Russo's such a mark.

 

I remember meeting him and going off on WCW's obtaining washed up wrinkled 80's WWF hasbeens, and bashing Jim Duggan's US Title reign. He actually defended it and said how Duggan was a draw, and did a "HOOO!!"

 

This doesn't surprise me, he's a mark for his old company that laughs at him, and a mark for his non-existant current career.

[Kardo 0]

...Fakes.

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Trying to Kayfabe God.

[Guest TotalJim]

Ok..

 

JR's not fired anyway..?

 

Isn't he just going to focus on scouting, his job at HQ and do some commentaries on the internet stuff??

 

He's not fired..

 

Why would Vince Russo have written that, surely he knows it's just a work to introduce the new commentator guy that was coming in?

 

Or maybe i'm just too stoned..

 

I forget which..

 

Good Day!

[Mole 0]

I don't want to read this but I remember one of the reasons I HATE Russo.

 

He is a Yankees fan.

[Ravenbomb 0]

since when did Russo find Jebus?

[nl5xsk1 0]

I don't want to read this but I remember one of the reasons I HATE Russo.

 

He is a Yankees fan.

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But he grew up listening to Mets games, which in my eyes equates to him liking the Yankees now because they're the better team. He'd be a Mets fan if they hadn't sucked for the past 2 decades.

 

And does Russo now think that wrestling's real? They didn't do shit to JR in real life(that I know of) ... they used him in an angle. Big deal.

[Guest MikeSC]

I don't want to read this but I remember one of the reasons I HATE Russo.

 

He is a Yankees fan.

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He's actually a Giants fan.

[reign 0]

I think that his point is that JR really loves doing commentary for the biggest wrestling show in history and was around to put over the likes of Austin and Foley during the down days of the WWF and Vince repays him by making him the charter member of the Kiss My Ass Club among other things while the man who tried to forcebly put Vince out of business is walking around as though he's a life long employee...that last part was my opinion but it's true never the less...and I know JR will be back in a month anyways...

[Black Lushus 0]

while they're at it changing Raw announcers, they need to work on two more things: a new theme song and a new set...both are horribly outdated...if you're gonna make a change, go all the way...

[Guest MikeSC]

I actually like the RAW set. It fits the show well.

 

And I think Coach as an announcer is gold.

 

Lawler? Dump him and Ross immediately looks better.

[reign 0]

I have to ask when did JR become so bad to people? I think he adds a degree of legitimacy to the team and he remains foused on the events at hand....Coach is good and Lawler just needs to be the guy on the DVD interviews rather than that crazy ass "King" that he potrays on Raw. I know JR's not perfect but name someone who could do a better job and don't say Joey Styles or Mike Tenay because neither will happen no matter how much we hope and pray...

[BHK 0]

...Fakes.

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Trying to Kayfabe God.

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[fisticuffs 0]

I haven't been here long and was just wondering what the board's thoughts are on Tony Schiavone. I grew up just outside of Greensboro and was at the NWA show every Saturday night in the 80's/early 90's and Schiavone is what I grew up on, so I like him.

[dubq 0]

I like Tony as a commentator. He's so laughably bad when he's in overhype mode, that it's hilarious to watch/listen to. The novelty does wear thin rather quickly, though.

[dubq 0]

I have to ask when did JR become so bad to people? I think he adds a degree of legitimacy to the team and he remains foused on the events at hand....Coach is good and Lawler just needs to be the guy on the DVD interviews rather than that crazy ass "King" that he potrays on Raw. I know JR's not perfect but name someone who could do a better job and don't say Joey Styles or Mike Tenay because neither will happen no matter how much we hope and pray...

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Well if you're talking in 'coulds' then we should be able to mention Styles or Tenay. Anyway, as for JR - what pissed me off about him is that calling a move wrong wasn't an every-once-in-a-while thing anymore. It was way too often. Not only that, how hard is it to get a wrestlers name correct? Seriously. That said, I also hate his voice JUST ABOUT as much as I hate the King's.