2005-2006 MLB Offseason thread

[Boon]

Of course, the Red Sox aren't turning into the Yankees.

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Arroyo and Youkilis for Torii Hunter is like the Yankees? Elaborate, plz, b/c when I think of Yankees, I think of overpaying for veterans, not making good trades.

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It's the idea that your team has the god-given right to acquire a big name for every single hole you have in the ballclub. No center fielder? Let's get Torii Hunter! Need a pitcher? Let's trade for Curt Schilling or Randy Johnson! Need a set-up man? B.J. Ryan! There are such things as role players that other teams settle for. I don't think it's the teams as much as the fantasy baseball mentality of the fans and sports radio.

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So saying the Red Sox are turning into the Yankees is a stretch- we already went over their fanbase, and you seem to agree that its not the teams.

 

For someone who doesn't pay attention to theoretical trades during the offseason, why are you getting worked up over what one guy said in passing on a local sports television station?

[Guest Gathering Moss]

The Mets received Tike Redman from the Pirates for cash.

[EVIL~! alkeiper]

For someone who doesn't pay attention to theoretical trades during the offseason, why are you getting worked up over what one guy said in passing on a local sports television station?

 

I'm not getting worked up, just trying to explain why fans are beginning to view the Red Sox and the Yankees in the same light. Understand that I am one of those who has defended the Yankees' massive spending in the past, and will do the same with the Red Sox. But I think it is frustrating when fans of mid-level teams never hear about their own teams in on such deals.

[tominator89]

Mets sign Billy Wagner

[Failed Bridge]

See? Its the Mets that are most like the Yankees now in terms of their moves.

[tominator89]

I don't think there is a single big name free agent that they haven't considered at this point.

[mike546]

The Mets received Tike Redman from the Pirates for cash.

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what the fuck? Weren't the Yankees trying to get this guy?

[the pinjockey]

4yr/$43 mil or 5yr/$50 mil? That is insane. Why would the Mets even begin to think of a 5th year on that deal? I hope that no one gets stupid enough to blame the Phillies for losing him to this deal, I won't hold my breath though.

 

Gonzalez, Haigwood, and two draft picks in the span of a week. This time next year the Phils might have a legitimate farm system.

[tominator89]

I think the Phillies are creating a solid team. They are trying to make logical deals that fills holes. Not like the Mets who are acting like a fantasy team just throwing players on a team.

[strummer]

I think the Phillies are creating a solid team. They are trying to make logical deals that fills holes. Not like the Mets who are acting like a fantasy team just throwing players on a team.

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um, they've only added 1 starting first baseman and 1 reliever so far. Not exactly "throwing a team together"

 

There is going to be serious backlash against the Mets this offseason. I can tell already. It's going to make it even more humiliating next year if they don't win. But you have to remember the Mets wouldn't be doing this (Wilpon letting the payroll get this out of control?) if they weren't starting their own network next season.

 

And for all the "Mets are too old" stuff that is going to come up, they're young in CF, SS, and 3B. Can't defend the age of the pitching staff though.

[tominator89]

I think they've been throwing a team together since last year. These massive contracts will come back to bite them.

 

Seriously, who is safe on the team?

[devo]

Damn it. I was really hoping they wouldn't sign Wagner (or, at the very least, sign him to a reasonable contract). $10 million plus for a closer is insane.

[The Czech Republic]

One day, Billy Wagner's arm is just gonna fall off, and then what are you going to do?

[devo]

It wouldn't be the first time a Mets player got treated to a huge contract and then proved to be completely useless.

[TheDevilAndGodAreRagingInsideMe]

Nor will it be the last.

[DerangedHermit]

It wouldn't be the first time a Mets player got treated to a huge contract and then proved to be completely useless.

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[TheDevilAndGodAreRagingInsideMe]

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[mike546]

[LooseCannon25]

I resent this last page of this thread......damnit

 

 

Bonilla wasn't THAT bad, he clocked 38 homers and 110 rbi's in his first season with them

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(granted they didn't sign him but they did give $50k to the Giants along with a shitty pitcher to get him)

[LooseCannon25]

[mike546]

 

He was awful.

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Then he joined the Rockies for a season and rejuvinated his career enough to Ching-Ching-Cash in(!) with the Cubs.

[mike546]

 

And I thought the Yankees sucked at FA pickups lately.

[LooseCannon25]

 

 

 

 

Since you wanted to mention the Yankees

[mike546]

Thats it? How about Kenny Lofton, Denny Neagle, Mark Wholers, Tony Womack, the list goes on.

[NYU]

Oh man, this is getting catty.

 

And Burnitz was decent in his last season with the Mets. He was actually one of the stronger offensive players on the team before they got rid of him. Get it right.

[LooseCannon25]

Oh man, this is getting catty.

 

And Burnitz was decent in his last season with the Mets. He was actually one of the stronger offensive players on the team before they got rid of him. Get it right.

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Damn right he was solid in his last year with them. He was having a fine year.

[mike546]

You can say Javy was an allstar for half the season, so its a push.