Vince saying "Nigga"

[Matt Young 0]

Adding to what I said earlier, after seeing some of the responses here... I can see why some people would be offended, most definitely. And yes, it was pointless in the long run.

 

However, I still thought it was pretty damn funny.

[Dangerous A 0]

so, i see it must be OK for Teddy Long to use the slang term "cracka" then...

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I don't think anything is on or off limits as far as what WWE will or won't do. If you were a white person and offended by it, then that's on you. Same with the nigga thing. I'm not offended by it, but I could see how it could be offensive to someone.

 

As Leelee said, it's more sad than anything because they have to stoop to this level to get a reaction as opposed to, you know, actually being funny or entertaining.

[Guest The Z Man Tom Zenk]

so, i see it must be OK for Teddy Long to use the slang term "cracka" then...

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No it's not, it's equally as bad.

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yet, you dont see people complain about it.

 

my point in that was not to complain about it, but people overlook it. there is no need to harp on this situation.

[haVoc 0]

It took almost 48 hours to get this type of reaction on the board. I don't think anyone was that offended.

[Guest The Z Man Tom Zenk]

so, i see it must be OK for Teddy Long to use the slang term "cracka" then...

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I don't think anything is on or off limits as far as what WWE will or won't do. If you were a white person and offended by it, then that's on you. Same with the nigga thing. I'm not offended by it, but I could see how it could be offensive to someone.

 

As Leelee said, it's more sad than anything because they have to stoop to this level to get a reaction as opposed to, you know, actually being funny or entertaining.

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well, vince obviously doesnt think he stooped to any low level. i just have a wider ranger of humor than almost everyone...so i pretty much find everything funny. it's just a mindset some people have that find it funny (i don't think EVERYTHING is funny, you just have to know me to know my sense of humor)

[chaosrage 0]

When Quentin Tarantino got bad pressed for saying Nigga in Pulp Fiction, I stood up for him.

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Why? What's the difference? Except he didn't say nigga in Pulp Fiction, he said nigger. So other than that, what's the difference?

 

No it's not, it's equally as bad.

 

Well did you make a thread the first time you heard him say it?

[RavishingRickRudo 0]

It's amazing how people fail to grasp this.

 

If someone gets offended by Long saying "cracka" or by 50 cent saying "Nigga", complains about it, then they have every right to complain about it. Because it's "entertainment" or because it "wasn't meant to offend" does NOT remove the fact that it DID offend. "It's entertainment" is not a legit defense.

[Angle-plex 0]

Fuck this. I didn't see this and I don't even believe this happened. WWE is the definition of class. If this did happen it is a huge issue and I would actually walk around during the day being angry about it.

[Guest The Z Man Tom Zenk]

It's amazing how people fail to grasp this.

 

If someone gets offended by Long saying "cracka" or by 50 cent saying "Nigga", complains about it, then they have every right to complain about it.  Because it's "entertainment" or because it "wasn't meant to offend" does NOT remove the fact that it DID offend.  "It's entertainment" is not a legit defense.

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but when they take a stance and then believe they are speaking for more people than themself, without actually having proof (besides a couple of friends that share the same opinion), then it just becomes stupid.

[UseTheSledgehammerUh 0]

Teddy Long is an entertainer who is known to speak the words "playa", "cracka", and other words that are characteristically said by poor black stereotypes that he represents.

 

50 Cent is a known rapper who uses profanity and says the word "nigger".

 

Don't listen to 50, don't see his movie, and don't watch Teddy Long on Smackdown if you think you might be offended.

 

Otherwise, shut the fuck up.

 

"It's Entertainment" is a logical excuse. People can complain about anything they want. Sure. It doesn't make their complaint legitimate, however, or change the fact that they're a moron for complaining about A FICTIONAL CHARACTER SAYING A WORD IN A STORY.

 

NEWSFLASH - Teddy Long is a CHARACTER, in a WRITTEN STORYLINE.

[razazteca 0]

Honestly, I thought there would be more backlash from this, but Vince and Co. seem hell bent on topping themselves in the offensive shit department. Let's not forget things like the Hassan/Terrorist bit as well as JR/Dr. Hiney bits.

 

This is just further proof that Vince is out of touch with, well, just about everything. I also don't agree that it's ok if Booker signs off on it. Vince is in a position of power and Booker wasn't going to say no to this.

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Vince saying the N word was an attempt to get some "bad press" and it seems that nobody outside of wrestling gives a damn.

 

It took almost 48 hours to get this type of reaction on the board. I don't think anyone was that offended.

I don't think anybody watched the PPV.

[CBright7831 0]

Alot of people are "pissed":

 

http://forums.sohh.com/showthread.php?t=658032&page=1&pp=15

 

http://community.allhiphop.com/showthread.php?t=185411

 

http://www.d12world.com/board/showthread.php?t=268897

 

To be honest, I laughed. I didn't even know this was said until a few moments ago.

[UseTheSledgehammerUh 0]

Good God! Message board posters!

 

At..a D12 site! Did you actually READ the responses?

 

"Haha!"

"I gotta see dat video yo!"

"OMG that wuz funny yo!"

 

"I jumped out of my seat laughing."

 

"man,u should have seen how fast vince took off when he realized booker t and his wife was right behind him"

 

Surely, WWE will be shut down.

[CBright7831 0]

Those were the main ones that came up in the search engine when I looked up "Vince my nigga" in google.

[UseTheSledgehammerUh 0]

Haha, I hope you were sarcastic then.

[chaosrage 0]

Alot of people are pissed:

 

http://forums.sohh.com/showthread.php?t=658032&page=1&pp=15

 

http://community.allhiphop.com/showthread.php?t=185411

 

http://www.d12world.com/board/showthread.php?t=268897

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From looking at the first two, it doesn't sound like a lot of people are pissed. It sounds like the same situation here. 1 or 2 people are pissed and everyone else is trying to talk sense into them and explain why it wasn't a big deal.

[evilhomer 0]

It's amazing how people fail to grasp this.

 

If someone gets offended by Long saying "cracka" or by 50 cent saying "Nigga", complains about it, then they have every right to complain about it.  Because it's "entertainment" or because it "wasn't meant to offend" does NOT remove the fact that it DID offend.  "It's entertainment" is not a legit defense.

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Okay, I did fail to grasp that. You obviously have empathy for the pain of others. I have none. I could care less about someone else taking offence. My empathy? I'll give them a shit stained piece of toilet paper to dry their tears with. But I'll only go that far if I'll really feeling it. Jaded? Cynical? An asshole? I am all of the above and very much at peace with that.

 

This is why I consider "it's just entertainment" to be a valid defence.

[Lt. Al Giardello 0]

When Quentin Tarantino got bad pressed for saying Nigga in Pulp Fiction, I stood up for him.

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Why? What's the difference? Except he didn't say nigga in Pulp Fiction, he said nigger. So other than that, what's the difference?

 

No it's not, it's equally as bad.

 

Well did you make a thread the first time you heard him say it?

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Point A: The difference is it's a movie, he was playing a character. Most people who are like the character he played in real life situation like that would say somthing of that. Vince was saying it trying to be funny, in a completely useless skit that had nothing to do with the PPV.

 

Point B: I didn't make a thread at the first time I heard it, because I don't even watch Smackdown, and didn't see it.

[RavishingRickRudo 0]

So, the WWE can have Trish Stratus raped by John Cena on television and it would be ok. Gotcha.

[CBright7831 0]

Haha, I hope you were sarcastic then.

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I was.

 

I probably should have put "" marks around pissed in the first place to show everyone that I was kidding.

 

Here's another thread that I laughed at:

 

http://forums.sohh.com/showthread.php?t=658254

 

I like how the thread starter calls everyone "coons".

[SuperJerk 0]

For those who watched Survivor Series remember the skit with Cena/Vince/Booker T, where Vince says "Keep it up my nigga" to Cena, and walks by Booker T, and Booker said "Tell me he didn't just say that".

 

Now, I am half black myself, and found the skit VERY offensive. Shame on Cena and Booker for particapting in somthing not only unfunny, but very racist. Booker should of not allowed it, by not particapting, no matter how bad he will de-push you. I'd rather be de-push then some rich white guy's jigga boo.

 

It's going to be very hard for me to watch another wrestling program, espically the way WWE is treating the African-American stars(Shelton Benjamin consently being jobbed out despite being one of the best pure workers in North America, and Bobby Lashley being the 1st person elimnated in the SD!/RAW match), it's seems you have to be Vince's jigga boo like Booker has for the last few years(HHH fued and the skit at Survivor Series).

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At no point did you explain why its offensive.

 

I mean, you do realize Cena is white, don't you? I just don't see how one white guy calling another white guy a "nigga" as a compliment is offensive.

 

Were you offended because you thought someone might think Vince was telling us Cena is really black? Or, as a black person, you don't want to be associated with John Cena?

 

I really need an explanation other than "it was offensive because I say so".

[chaosrage 0]

Point A: The difference is it's a movie, he was playing a character. Most people who are like the character he played in real life situation like that would say somthing of that. Vince was saying it trying to be funny, in a completely useless skit that had nothing to do with the PPV.

 

Vince was playing a character too. It's not real, it's all part of a storyline btw. So I guess it's okay.

[Lt. Al Giardello 0]

For those who watched Survivor Series remember the skit with Cena/Vince/Booker T, where Vince says "Keep it up my nigga" to Cena, and walks by Booker T, and Booker said "Tell me he didn't just say that".

 

Now, I am half black myself, and found the skit VERY offensive. Shame on Cena and Booker for particapting in somthing not only unfunny, but very racist. Booker should of not allowed it, by not particapting, no matter how bad he will de-push you. I'd rather be de-push then some rich white guy's jigga boo.

 

It's going to be very hard for me to watch another wrestling program, espically the way WWE is treating the African-American stars(Shelton Benjamin consently being jobbed out despite being one of the best pure workers in North America, and Bobby Lashley being the 1st person elimnated in the SD!/RAW match), it's seems you have to be Vince's jigga boo like Booker has for the last few years(HHH fued and the skit at Survivor Series).

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At no point did you explain why its offensive.

 

I mean, you do realize Cena is white, don't you? I just don't see how one white guy calling another white guy a "nigga" as a compliment is offensive.

 

Were you offended because you thought someone might think Vince was telling us Cena is really black? Or, as a black person, you don't want to be associated with John Cena?

 

I really need an explanation other than "it was offensive because I say so".

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I'm offened that the word is being used at all no matter if Vince was saying it to a Black, White, Hispanic, Asian, Arab person no matter who it is, the term was unfunny.

 

And as for Chaosrage, your still not getting the point so arguing with you is quite useless.

[evilhomer 0]

Complain about it being shitty. Complain about it being a waste of time. Complain about it being in poor taste. Complain about it being offensive. Complain about it being out of touch with reality. Complain about anything that it is. Be my guest. Knock yourself out. I'll join in if I agree.

 

Complain about it being something it isn't, I'll disagree.

[chaosrage 0]

You don't have a point. Arguing period would be useless. Just admit you didn't think this through enough and move on. It's hilarious watching you defend Pulp Fiction and 50 cent because "It's entertainment!", what do you think pro-wrestling is?

[Guest Trecko]

Haha, I hope you were sarcastic then.

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I was.

 

I probably should have put "" marks around pissed in the first place to show everyone that I was kidding.

 

Here's another thread that I laughed at:

 

http://forums.sohh.com/showthread.php?t=658254

 

I like how the thread starter calls everyone "coons".

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Ahhhh. Fellow SOHHer. What up my ni...what up?

[Lt. Al Giardello 0]

You don't have a point.  Arguing period would be useless.  Just admit you didn't think this through enough and move on. It's hilarious watching you defend Pulp Fiction and 50 cent because "It's entertainment!", what do you think pro-wrestling is?

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It's not entertainment, it's art and leads to somthing. Quentien played a character, Vince McMahon played WWE Owner, Vince McMahon.

 

When black people call other black people nigga, I find it offensive also. The only way, I approve of it is in a Rap song, because it is an artform, which is explaining the mentality of living in the ghetto.

[Angle-plex 0]

Even if it was offensive, do people actually give a shit? If you've been watching WWE for even three years, you'd have suffered through a man pulling things out of a mans ass, old man Vince being a perv, implied incestious relations, corpse fucking - a racial slur should hardly come as a surprise. It doesn't make it acceptable by any means, but it's much easier to say "fuck it" than becoming so traumitized by the event that it's "hard for you to watch future WWE programming".

[Placebo Effect 0]

Big fucking deal.

[chaosrage 0]

It's not entertainment, it's art and leads to somthing. Quentien played a character, Vince McMahon played WWE Owner, Vince McMahon.

 

Which is a character. Maybe a more exaggerated version of himself, but still a character. It's like being offended that HHH beat up Ric Flair and making a thread saying "I CAN'T BELIEVE HE USED A SLEDGEHAMMER ON A MAN! What's his problem?!"