24: Season 5

[BlackFlagg 0]

Good points all. I believe Jack Bauer is at the breaking point.

 

We may see Jack go through a nervous breakdown, or he may very well undergo some temporary murderous psychosis.

 

In which case, I hope he pulls out the 450° Splash on Henderson.

 

after hitting a Bauer-carana of course

[Edwin MacPhisto 0]

I wonder if the girl Bierko called is the same girl that Henderson called after he left Jack to explode a few hours back. If not, I'm still wondering who the woman on the other end of that call was.

[Edwin MacPhisto 0]

I love killin'.

[RavishingRickRudo 0]

This is my first season watching 24, I am going through Season 1 on A&E every Mondays as well (Jack is escaping with his wife and kid, they are being chased by the baddies through the woods), and JESUS FUCK, I have never seen such a body count. This is just fucking wrong and defying every convention of television set before it.

 

This, clearly, is a direct result of David Fury being a part of the creative process.

 

Think about it, they kept Tony alive *just* so they could let him live, let you breathe a sigh of relief, and then kill him off a lil later on when you don't suspect it. That is pure evil.

 

I hope they don't pay this off like they have done for pretty much every baddie thus far - ie: build up a baddie just so they can have an anti-climactic death to help build up someone else and then just forget they ever existed. There has to be a satisfying period where Jack skullfucks Henderson and this English dude to death - like a full episode long pistol whipping. They can't sacrifice all this and not deliver to the fullest.

 

And I mourn Lynn. It was just the wrong day for him to come in. And he beats Edgar in the Bad Day Dept. Starts off good with him heading CTU and helping Jack out. Goes bad when his druggie sister and her druggie boyfriend jump him and take his keycard and wallet. Then he has those under him go around his back subverting him at very turn. Then theres the mutiny and he's relieved of duty. Then he dies curled up like a bitch saving the very people who screwed him over.

 

Jacks having his period and everyone is like "POOR JACK", fuck Jack. Where is the love for Lynn?

 

Kim walked away like she was going to a fucking mall after the gas was gone. Just throwin her purse over her shoulder and flingin her hair back. Never have I hated someone I really wanted to bonk so much.

[RavishingRickRudo 0]

Blah blah blah.

[Guest Fook]

Tony's not dead.

 

He survived being shot in the neck, being taken hostage by Mandy the Hot Lesbian Terrorist, and being blown up in a car bomb.

 

He's not going out to a fucking needle.

 

Where was Curtis? At the start he said he'd be at CTU with the chemical response team in 20-30 minutes. Did he stop for drive through or something?

 

For the next target (which is apparently the main one as they're using all the canisters), I say it's a large venue like a stadium or the building where Logan is.

 

Some great parallels between Jack's dealing with Nina and Tony's dealing with Henderson.

 

"I'm okay! I'm okay!"

*inhales gas, keels over*

 

"What's with you and the breathing? Is that your solution to everything?"

[Ripper 0]

Well I am guessing Curtis couldnt' get in after the gas attack.

 

And just to solidify what I said earlier. I wasn't saying that I believe Tony isn't dead, I am saying I KNOW Tony isn't dead. nothing about that said Tony just died to me...it would be the shock of all shocks if he is actually dead.

[BlackFlagg 0]

Any Canadians around to verify this, someone said this was shown in the preview for next week up there...

 

The Canadian preview for next week shows them putting a white sheet over Tony's body.

[Dr. Tyler; Captain America 0]

A poll up on 24's Fox website says "Did you feel as bad as Jack did about Tony's death?"

[Dr. Tyler; Captain America 0]

A poll up on 24's Fox website says "Did you feel as bad as Jack did about Tony's death?"

[Mecha Mummy 0]

Ugh. I really, really hope that this is all just them fucking with people, as completely unlikely as it is at this point. Because for me at this point it's overkill and it means they wasted the silent clock on Edgar all for a swerve.

[Edwin MacPhisto 0]

Tony's dead, guys. I really don't consider this worthy of a spoiler because it was pretty damned obvious, I thought. The first page of this article makes reference to the Shield, Lost, and The L Word, and could be considered mildly spoilery for all of them, if you decide to go read the whole thing.

 

"24" has such a rotating cast that Mr. Bernard has not had to defend himself from false conjecture. In fact, Tony wasn't even the only one killed in last night's episode — Sean Astin's Lynn McGill, a new character this season, fell prey to the deadly nerve gas that leaked into the Counter Terrorist Unit office at the heart of the show. (As did Edgar (Louis Lombardi), the loveable computer geek, in the previous episode.)

 

In playing Tony for five years, Mr. Bernard always wondered when his number would come up. "My feeling every year going into the next year was, listen, if there's an interesting story line, great, let's do it," he said on the telephone last week. "But if there's not, it's time to move on, really. Creatively, I didn't get into acting to play one character my whole life."

 

Tony was supposed to die in the season premiere, along with his wife, Michelle, who blew up in a car, and former President David Palmer, who was shot. Howard Gordon, an executive producer of "24," said that Mr. Bernard suggested that Tony last longer into the season to try to avenge Michelle's death. He and the writers agreed it was a good idea, partly because the idea of killing three popular characters in the season opener seemed risky. "It was just so depressing that it felt overwhelming," Mr. Gordon said.

[Stephen Joseph 0]

Fuck!

 

How the hell do they have a new season after this one. Right now, we have

 

Curtis

Jack

Buchanan

Audrey

Chloe

 

As main characters who are still alive. Of those, Curtis, Jack and Chloe have been around the longest.

 

One of these, or moore, I feel will bite the bullet. But who?

[Kahran Ramsus 0]

Any Canadians around to verify this, someone said this was shown in the preview for next week up there...

 

The Canadian preview for next week shows them putting a white sheet over Tony's body.

 

Yes it did.

[Mecha Mummy 0]

It strikes me now that nearly the entire cast from both the first and the second season are either dead or have been written out and now the only two characters to appear in every season and still be alive are Jack and Aaron. Damn.

[Edwin MacPhisto 0]

Fuck!

 

How the hell do they have a new season after this one. Right now, we have

 

Curtis

Jack

Buchanan

Audrey

Chloe

 

As main characters who are still alive. Of those, Curtis, Jack and Chloe have been around the longest.

 

One of these, or moore, I feel will bite the bullet. But who?

Will there be a new season? I know it's big money for Fox, but I really don't know what they'll do. I love this show, but I'm not sure even I could buy the possibility of another Terrible No-Good Very Bad Day after this one. I have no idea what could possibly get Jack back into this. The people he came back to avenge are dead anyway. I find it really difficult to imagine Jack Bauer in Season 6, whether the character lives or dies, and I don't think 24 works without Jack.

[BlackFlagg 0]

I'm pretty sure it's already been signed for a sixth season....I could see them attempting to make a try at it without Jack, weither it would be succesful or not remains to be seen...obviously won't be the same, I think if they did do that they'd have to give it a compete overhaul and move it out of LA

[Dangerous A 0]

International 24 would rule. It could still happen, especially if the Chinese government gets wind that Jack is now alive.

[RavishingRickRudo 0]

Why do I get the feeling that the big nerve gas thing is just a distraction for something else? (Ok, I know why, but does anyone agree?)

[Edwin MacPhisto 0]

It may be, especially since Bierko seems intent on setting it all off sooner rather than later. Still, with the plan to use the gas on Russia going awry, you wonder how big a contingency plan they had in that case. They seem to have been running just fine since Bierko took over.

[Mik 0]

I knew that Tony was dead. You could just tell. The only surprising thing was lack of silent countdown.

 

Jack is going to go ballistic and I have a feeling that the homeland security bitch is going to feel some of the wrath.

[Dangerous A 0]

Why do I get the feeling that the big nerve gas thing is just a distraction for something else? (Ok, I know why, but does anyone agree?)

 

 

That's pretty much spot on. 24 always resolves the first major storyline about midway through before introducing another major storyline because the writers figure the first one starts to get stale.

[Mecha Mummy 0]

Why do I get the feeling that the big nerve gas thing is just a distraction for something else? (Ok, I know why, but does anyone agree?)

 

I agree entirely. Bierko and the gas are just buying time until we figure out what the hell Christopher Henderson was refusing to divulge.

[RavishingRickRudo 0]

Plus the dude was like "use them all" and it wasn't a big note, it didn't close the show, it was more of a write-off. Clearly this is a tool to help stir up shit between CTU and HLS - to give them something to fight over - but it's not going to be the end. I can see the gas being released just so everyone can hit rock bottom and the rest of the season being everyone being rebuilt.

 

When was the last time 24 even mentioned the Chinese? It seemed like they had the agent confessing the Bauer info and that was it.

[Guest Starks]

The only way I will tolerate the death of Tony is if they go the distance and kill EVERYONE associated with Jack. Audrey dead, Chloe dead, Kim dead.

 

Next season have a large terrorist threat with a huge ransom demand. They work the case and in the final 5 minutes of the episode have the big reveal that Jack is the major villain. He's snapped after having everyone he's ever loved taken from him and he's collecting on what he perceives the US government owes him, whatever that may be. Fly Bill Buchanan and Curtis in as consultants that know how Jack thinks. They could deal with mercenaries that Jack hand picked and trained and it would be the ultimate game of cat and mouse, especially if you add the Chinese aware that Jack's alive and are looking for retribution.

 

I always wished they went with the Bauer heel-turn they teased for a few minutes in season 3 when they first landed in Mexico. The only problem would be turning the audience against Bauer, but I'm sure Kieffer could pull it off if the give him the right material to work with.

 

Jack Bauer is already one of TV's greatest heroes of all time, now it's time for him to be its greatest villian!

[bobobrazil1984 0]

I really wanna see 24 break the formula next season. Maybe have Jack go solo overseas, end up co-ordinating with the Brits or something wacky like that. or have a threat break out on a luxury liner or something.

 

as for this season, Jack just needs to go NUCLEAR! When latest bureacracy bitch comes, Jack just needs to pistol whip her, shoot her security in the leg, steal a car, and finish this off solo. No debate Jack, no more debating.

[MarvinisaLunatic 0]

Well the good news is that they've kept up the tradition of killing Jack Bauer's bosses at CTU, even if Lynn wasn't really technically his boss this season..

 

The bad news is that with the deathcount piling up, I dont think there will be any more "OH SHIT" deaths unless its Jack.

 

Also, Im wondering if HLS knows about Jack "working" with CTU..

 

And I do think that was Mandy, I posted some spoilers earlier about Mia Kirshner supposedly being on the set and getting involved in a prank.

 

And my hunch is that Tony isn't dead.

[RedJed 0]

Well the good news is that they've kept up the tradition of killing Jack Bauer's bosses at CTU, even if Lynn wasn't really technically his boss this season..

 

The bad news is that with the deathcount piling up, I dont think there will be any more "OH SHIT" deaths unless its Jack.

 

Also, Im wondering if HLS knows about Jack "working" with CTU..

 

And I do think that was Mandy, I posted some spoilers earlier about Mia Kirshner supposedly being on the set and getting involved in a prank.

 

And my hunch is that Tony isn't dead.

 

Did ya read some of the posts here though?

Even the official website itself is saying Tony is dead. Plus teasers for next week showing them put a white cloth over Tonys body.

 

That definately wasn't Mia - watched the episode again last night and it was a much more curvy woman, and facially, it clearly wasnt her.

 

Good point about a possible confrontation with Jack and HLS - now I would assume that was why Bill cringed when he found out they were on their way?

 

And I just have to say I thought it was aprapo (sp?) that Lynn did what he did. Ultimately he was the one who fucked up EVERYTHING since he didnt tell anyone that someone stole his key out of pure pride and fear of ridicule. Instead he amped himself up and tried to be an unreasonable dictator because of what happened, which only further created problems overall, with Chloe, etc, going behind his back. Face it - the guy deserved to die in the world of 24. There was a clear purpose and story with Lynn that I think the writers did a very good job on. Sure, maybe there was a small sense of remorse when he died, but ultimately it was right on that he was the person who had to do what he did because of his past errors in judgment - first being just allowing his druggie sister even reasonably close to CTU in the first place. And that shit comes back to bite ya on this show.

[2GOLD 0]

Here's a question: How BAD can security constantly be at CTU? The place seems easier to get into than Ball State. This season alone about anyone has been able to just walk into the building with the security guy at the desk going, "alright, whatever".

 

Even with the minor annoyances such as that and the Palmer's death out of the news like it was a weather report, I love the stuff this show does by killing off the characters who have run their course. And the Edgar death was a pain but obvious since he was in the Sara Gilbert spot of doom that the nerds not named Chloe fill on the show.

 

And something tells me this is all just going to end up tying back around to the original plot about a bunch of "Patriots" looking to do what was best for the USA by hitting the country with terrorist strikes. I hope not, I hope it's a lot more complicated. Hell, I'd love if the season ends with it all being revealed that Jack Bauer WAS behind everything and Henderson was actually the good guy. Evil Jack would be a great season, it just would.

[bobobrazil1984 0]

Funny thing, today I found out that the actress who plays Chloe is actually the cousin of a college friend of mine. Damn, i shoulda kept in touch with this chick! the funny thing is, this friend told me of a visit she was taking to the set of legally blonde 2 because her cousin was in it, but not following that movie i had no idea the cousin was Chloe until today. Damn. This chick liked me too, I coulda had a (slight) chance at meeting chloe. to answer the obvious question no this chick wasn't hot.