RavishingRickRudo 0 Report post Posted February 5, 2006 Respect. That Vera KO was so pretty. Fucking awesome card. Goddamn. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Your Paragon of Virtue 0 Report post Posted February 5, 2006 They have all the pressure on them at this moment to deliver. This is when the UFC had to show something, as this was a card where one of their superstars would have their credibility damaged (or retire as it were) and they would have to have some new ones arrive. On top of all that, they still had to hope that the fights would be good/solid in order for newer funs to get hooked. They responded with a great fucking card. Motherfucking beautiful. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Brian Report post Posted February 5, 2006 After how last year slowed down given the last two-to-three shows, they're kicking off their big year with a big show that delivered. Chuck's gonna make a lot of money this year. On a side not and a what-if, I think if Randy won he was planning on filling out his coffers and fulfilling his contract. Another defense at the end of the year (Babalu) and another Tito fight would have been huge. As is, I hope he returns to Team Quest in Oregon and finds spare time working as a strength and conditioning coach for professional athletes, as he has shown exceptional ability in doing that. As for the former, I hope that the Vegas thing was just him basking in the money he was making in the twilight of his career and he returns to the team that he built. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lt. Al Giardello 0 Report post Posted February 5, 2006 Vera is a crazy striker. And Monson is a monster on the ground. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lord of The Curry 0 Report post Posted February 5, 2006 One of the hugest positives in this show of fucking awesome positives is that they managed to do something no PPV in the past has done and that's showcase some viable new blood in the heayweight division. Vera, Pe De Pano, Monson and even Aldana are guys to build up. After Arlovski murders Sylvia we'll need some fresh meat. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Army Eye Report post Posted February 5, 2006 WTF... Diaz and Riggs got into a fight at the hospital. LOL Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AboveAverage484 0 Report post Posted February 5, 2006 Randy came in with the same gameplan he had in the second fight. He seemed tentative to throw any kind of strikes on Chuck which was why he got knocked out yet again. I think that the KO in the last fight had a large effect on him, despite my comments to the contrary earlier. I guess he felt that the only way he could win was by taking Chuck down and that really hurt his chances of winning, IMO. I think his confidence suffered as well when Chuck got up so fast from the takedown, and you also have to question whether he was really all in the fight, seeing as how he retired immediately after. Great career for Randy, lots of ups and downs but I think the way he bounced back from those downs was what really defined his career as a fighter and a person. I'm really looking forward to Chuck/Babalu II now, not to mention Ortiz's involvement in things. I'd really like to see Rampage in the Octagon if things don't work out with him and Pride. He would be a huge draw for the UFC. Great card. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
snuffbox 0 Report post Posted February 5, 2006 WTF... Diaz and Riggs got into a fight at the hospital. LOL Diaz apparently threw a sucker punch. Pretty weird. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RavishingRickRudo 0 Report post Posted February 5, 2006 Before: After: In between: Jesus Christo that's a beating. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Adam 0 Report post Posted February 5, 2006 Us Aussies sure as hell know how to get hit! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SilverPhoenix 0 Report post Posted February 6, 2006 So I'm guessing I should definetely shell out for the replay? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Your Paragon of Virtue 0 Report post Posted February 6, 2006 Yes motherfucker. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Masked Man of Mystery 0 Report post Posted February 6, 2006 Just curious: How much do UFCs cost to order and on the replay, so they include the prelims? I'm stuck waiting for the DVDs for the foreseeable future, with only an antenna for TV, but I'd like to know for the future Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RavishingRickRudo 0 Report post Posted February 6, 2006 I think they have two tiers of pricing. $40 for the big shows like Couture/Liddell and $35 for regular shows. Not 100% sure on that, though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lt. Al Giardello 0 Report post Posted February 7, 2006 I really think Monson will give Arlovski ALOT of problems. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AboveAverage484 0 Report post Posted February 7, 2006 I really think Monson will give Arlovski ALOT of problems. Really? He's a great grappler, but Arlovski has good takedown defense and he should whoop Monson's ass in standup. Monson looked good against Hinkle but he's a D class fighter to say the least. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Your Paragon of Virtue 0 Report post Posted February 7, 2006 I'm gonna go ahead and be a dick and guarantee a Randy victory. I thought Chuck's victory in the last fight was flukish to say the least so this fight I'm looking for a repeat of their first encounter. If anyone wants to make an avatar bet, I'm game. I responded to this in the positive. I almost overlooked it too. Don't try to weasel your way out of this one! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jwpeer 0 Report post Posted February 7, 2006 Monson is the scariest mma guy i've see yet. He just seems like he's strong as fuck, and smart. I'm not knowledgable about his ability to strike, but he seems like the type of guy that could out-grapple anyone that's anywhere near his size, and he looks tough enough to take a few hits in the process. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lord of The Curry 0 Report post Posted February 7, 2006 The fact that he's only 5'8 and posseses a very low centre of gravity makes it easier for him to take people down and harder for them to do the same to him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AmericanDragon 0 Report post Posted February 7, 2006 He's a white Randleman with BJJ skills. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AboveAverage484 0 Report post Posted February 8, 2006 I think Monson's getting way too much credit on here for beating someone like Hinkle. Lei hates watching him fight, I'm sure he could exand on Monson a bit more. Just give me an avatar, Paragon. If I'd have known Randy was retiring afterwards I woulda picked different Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Your Paragon of Virtue 0 Report post Posted February 8, 2006 Monson is boring, but since Hinkle was so bad he just easily overmatched him. "Number One Fighter in the world!" or something similar would suffice I think. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lei Tong 0 Report post Posted February 8, 2006 - It's not really suprising the Hinkle fight wasn't boring to watch, as BLH is a ballsy fighter who could bring it to Monson and give him a problem here or there, but was unskilled enough that Monson could actually attempt to push the action and finish with the semi-rare "I'm a Strong Motherfucker in North/South Choke." However, put him against someone who knows what they're doing on the ground (like Gonzaga or PDP), and prepare for the dry humping of a lifetime. - Comparing Monson's wrestling to Randleman's or even Matyushenko's is inaccurate. He has good takedowns, but let's not forget that Hinkle stuffed his first attempt like he it was nothing. Monson also got slammed around like a ragdoll against an un-obese(?) Ricco. He has nothing on the UFC 32-era Ricco that beat a young Andrei, and compared to Matyushenko, he has better submissions and positioning skills, but worse takedowns and striking power. - As far as weaknesses go... well, in spite of rumours to the contrary, Monson is the same he's always been standing (strong, but not with much else), he's not as a great a finisher as his record against novice grapplers would suggest, and his frame severely limits his agility (like trying to take BLH's back) and makes him completely without offense on his back. He likely beats BJJ stylists like Gonzaga, PDP and Mir, and get's obliterated by the likes of Arlovski, Vera, and possibly Sylvia. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AboveAverage484 0 Report post Posted February 8, 2006 Nogueira and Werdum are also far superior on the ground when compared to Monson, but Monson's probably the best on the ground among non Brazilians HW's. Him against Mir or Barnett would be interesting. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lei Tong 0 Report post Posted February 8, 2006 Monson would hump Werdum into oblivion. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lei Tong 0 Report post Posted February 8, 2006 For reference: Gonzaga > Werdum on the ground Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jwpeer 0 Report post Posted February 8, 2006 Lei Tong is awesome, he's so objective and balanced with his analysis, I know almost none of the people he's talking about, but when I read what he posts it just makes me feel more knowledgeable about MMA SO basically Monson normally just stalls like a big mofo (Using his strength to hold the other guy and get a cheap decision) it was not normal for him to finish as impressively as at 57 (that's what I'm gathering from Lei Tong) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lei Tong 0 Report post Posted February 8, 2006 Actually, Monson finishes a lot (or has as of late) because, by and large, all but a few heavyweight MMA fighters can't grapple worth a shit. Kerry Schall, for example, looked like a complete and utter buffoon on the ground against Fedor back in RINGS, yet was able to gain a reputation as a "good submission fighter" due to the suckage of HW MMA grappling. However, agaisnt someone who knows what they're doing (and in pure grappling), Monson is pretty content to simply lay there and do nothing but ride an opponent. Also, I'm completely and utterly biased against that bastard Monson. BOMB ATT! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jwpeer 0 Report post Posted February 8, 2006 Is there something he did to earn your bias? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lei Tong 0 Report post Posted February 8, 2006 I'm normally indifferen to boring fighters (as they're easy to ignore), but Monson also brings roid rage antics (whereas PDP bitches and moans to get his way, Monson tackles refs and gets naked) to the table. Also, I had the pleasure of watching the first ever ADCC World Championships (the most prestigious no-gi submission wrestling tournmanet in the world) on American soil last year, and watching Monson bring down the entertainment level of the weekend (along with his Amazonian teammate Juliana Borges) earned both even more scorn from me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
