Joey Styles is terrible!

[Si82 0]

http://www.pwtorch.com/artman/publish/article_16022.shtml

 

Sound quite the bitter man to me.

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I have no idea who Chris Cruise is but has he actually heard any of Joey's work? Joey's is one of the best play by play guys I have ever heard and to say that Joey has no idea what he's doing is just pointless.

 

 

Styles looked to his team members for guidance rather than taking control of the broadcast as Ross did (and as any "host" should), and Lawler and the Coach were only too happy to take over. The few times the camera shot the team, little Joey (suggestion: drop the "Joey") seemed like he was frozen, as if he had won a local radio station's contest to call a match on Raw. He just doesn't belong - that is the inescapable conclusion. Will that change with time? Will he grow into his role? Of course such a thing is possible, but I don't think it is probable.

 

So is Joey suppose to get up and do a little dance everytime the camera goes to the annouce team? He may be slightly right through, joey may not look like he belongs. But thats because Joey doesn't have a gimmick at the annouce table. Joey isn't a king or a cocky heel annoucer. He's just an annoucer, and should just be calling the matches. What role would Joey grow into? Annoucing? To me he does a good job as long as he doesn't get caught up in a king/coach debate.

 

I find Styles to be a drag on the broadcast, more irritating than incisive. His overly nasal and whiny voice is jarring and his interjections are often off-topic or contrived. He is an insincere shill, completely lacking in credibility, which Ross seemed to have in abundance. One gets the sense that Styles is just spouting lines and needs to be constantly coached. In that respect, not much has changed since his ECW days, except that the voice in his headset is McMahon's and not Heyman's. This guy is in so far over his head its a surprise he can see daylight.

 

Spouting off lines? He does realize that Joey isn't the coach or Lawler right? Joey calls matches and doesn't go off about puppies or the angle that happen half an hour ago, instead he at least tries to call the match that is happening at the moment. You know for saying that Joey Styles is not Jim Ross, and saying that Styles already said that he wasn't going to try to be like Jim Ross, Mr. Cruise here seems to be comparing Styles to Ross a hell of a lot.

 

Styles's facial acting is embarrassingly bad and juvenile, as when he stared/gawked at the Candice Michelle GoDaddy.com television ad, tugging on his collar and claiming his glasses were "fogged up." This is something from Milton Berle and the 1950s. It was neither funny nor original and, as with so much with Styles, came across as contrived and unconvincing

 

Apprently Mr. Cruise likes Lawler's girls on the screen heart attack.

 

One never got the impression from Ross that he was acting

 

Bullshit

 

Throughout the broadcast, it felt to me like Styles was lost, had nothing to add and nothing to say other than the painfully obvious, while Lawler and the Coach were forwarding the angles, discussing emotion, and engaging the viewer, trying to draw them in to the program. I can't believe I am writing this, but, at least compared to Styles, the Coach sounds good. Perhaps that is because the Coach, for all of his many faults, is a trained broadcaster. Styles is a guy Paul Heyman plucked from obscurity, whispered into his ear, talked him through the ECW broadcasts, and created - as Heyman has shown time and time he can do - something from nothing. But Styles' stint on Raw has exposed him for what he is - and, more importantly, for what he is not. He has talent at the ECW level; like many of the ECW wrestlers, he does not have the talent to make it in WWE. Styles was popular only because ECW was popular. It is the mistake wrestling tends to make a lot - assuming Billy Graham and Larry Zbyszko were good draws on their own when, in fact, they were only good draws when they were facing Bruno Sammartino.

 

So we have Lawler and Coach talking about angles that happen 5,10,30,60 minutes ago, while Joey is trying to put over the people in the ring who are having a match and apprently thats a bad thing? And Coach is the reason that a third was added to the annouce table in the first place and its already a fact that its been reported that Vince just lets Joey go at his own pace without feeding him lines. So I don't know where he's getting that crap from.

 

 

I believe that Styles learned long ago from Heyman and, possibly, Ross that, whenever a wrestler was in a "pinning predicament," the play-by-play announcer should immediately and shrill-ly interrupt whoever else was talking and call the count, then say something like "ooooh, the referee (insert ref name here) got to two and a half." (Why is it always two and a half, by the way? Couldn't it sometimes be two and seven-eights?) This is old style play-by-play and should be stopped. It makes the announcer look stupid in the eyes of the fans, since the fans know a pin is not forthcoming. I'm sure Ross would disagree with me on this, but, just because he is the greatest play-by-play announcer professional wrestling has ever known doesn't mean he is right about everything

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He actually belives this doesn't he? Nevermind a match is going on. Lets listen to the annoucers talk about something else. Fuck the match, a backstage segment or some tits was just shown!

 

Cruise should not be allowed to write another article bashing someone ever again.

[Black Lushus 0]

I've actually warmed up to Joey Styles, I think he's gotten better.

[Danville_Wrestling 0]

Styles is awesome and refreshing it's just his color commentary squad that sucks up the show.

[Si82 0]

I have no idea who Chris Cruise is but has he actually heard any of Joey's work?

Chris Cruise was half of the English announce team at When Worlds Collide along with Mike Tenay. That's all I know him from.

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I have no idea who this Chris Cruise fellow is but I loved how he bashed Styles for being an "insincere shill" and how "you never got the feeling Ross was acting" but then he says that during an attempted pinfall everybody at the announce table should go about their business because the fans fucking know when the pinfall will take place? This guy needs to watch some more matches then because even though I might know who is going over 99% of the time, I would never want to listen to a match where the the announcer no sells the pinfall attempt. That adds more credibilty than Joey screeming about what a monster Kane is when "we all know" he jobs most of the time....pathetic....

[MillenniumMan831 0]

Cruise is probably most famous for being co-host of WCW Pro in the mid 1990s. He also commentated on one of the rings during the WW3 battle royal in 1995.

[The Tino Standard 0]

Joey has been pretty solid. I wasn't sure how well he would make the jump from calling ECW shows to WWE, considering how different the two products are, but he's been a pro.

 

I'm not revealing anything new here, but MAN, the Raw broadcast team could get a lot better if they trimmed out Coach. The problem in the booth isn't Joey Styles. It's having three guys constantly trying to talk to each other. Coach gets the ax because it seems like more than anybody else, he's the one killing the flow of conversation.

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Joey Styles has been my favorite PBP man since I first got into ECW in 1998. I think he's the best in the business.

[Promoter 0]

Guys, he's sucking up to Vince for a job

 

Bash Styles and probably get on Vince's good side where he gets rid of him and brings in Cruise.

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Guys, he's sucking up to Vince for a job

 

Bash Styles and probably get on Vince's good side where he gets rid of him and brings in Cruise.

And that will be the day that I stop watching WWE

[notJames 0]

This is why I loathe wCw and all of its unemployed ilk.

[benoit4hor 0]

I'm pretty sure Styles dropped the F-bomb right after Cena & Maria won. "Who the F**K"

[PLAGIARISM! 0]

Styles is certainly better than Ross, I don't know how anyone could argue otherwise, and I can't think of anyone active I'd rather have at the moment.

[yankovic fan 0]

Guys, he's sucking up to Vince for a job

 

Bash Styles and probably get on Vince's good side where he gets rid of him and brings in Cruise.

 

 

My thoughts exactly. When he emailed the article to pwtorch he probably hit CC: [email protected] or whatever the hell Vince's Email is.

[RavishingRickRudo 0]

How was he sucking up for a job when his solution was to bring back JR?

 

Styles has been pretty bad in the booth, IMO, and a lot of Cruises points were spot on. Coach and King are overwhelming him on commentary and instead of pushing through and letting his voice be heard, he's pulling back. He's being way too generous with his commentary. In ECW with Cyrus he was able to play off him because Don Callis was willing to play to Styles' strengths and work with him. Coach and King aren't going to do that as much, especially Coach. So what happens is you have 3 independant voices giving their perspective on the match with little banter in between. One guy says something, the other guy ignores it and says what he wants to say, the other guy ignores that and says something else. There is no chemistry here. Half of what Styles says sounds like he's being fed it, and the other half is just him calling moves, which anyone can do, really. Styles sucks at the hype-job, and whenever he is fed a line is is so obvious because it's simply something Joey Styles wouldn't have said in ECW, and in fact, is something Joey Styles would have mocked in ECW. WWE brought Joey in because he had credibility with the fans, and they are slowly taking that away every time Joey tries to convince us that Ashley is a wrestler.

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Joey Styles lost all his credibility and is now just another WWE announcer being fed lines by whoever is in the back...this is not the ECW Joey Styles that people were excited about this shell of a man might as well be called Cole, Todd, Kelly.

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Chris Cruise sounds like he wrote that article in hopes that someone high-up from WWE would read it, fire Styles, and hire him.

 

As far as my opinion of Joey Styles in WWE, he's done a great job. The only one thing that annoys me about Joey in WWE is when he tries to sell Ashley Massaro's pathetic "punches" as devastating.

[RavishingRickRudo 0]

How does this sound like Chris Cruise looking for a job? It sounds more like Chris Cruise trying to convince the WWE to bring JR back. Well, it's not so much "sounds like" as "most definitely is". People are really fucking stupid.

 

So, what to do, what to do? The answer is clear. Its time for a new voice, just like the old voice.

 

Vince, there is a fat, middle-aged guy in a big black cowboy hat sitting in Oklahoma drooling over his stupid f---ing college football team, sucking up barbecue sauce by the gallon, and getting fatter by the hour. He is Babe Ruth coaching Little League, Jeff Gordon working as a parking-lot attendant, 50-Cent stuck in a studio, Karl Rove working on a city council race, Superman helping little old ladies cross the street, and John McCain looking in at the Oval Office. He is there, and that means he is not where he needs to be and where your organization and your wrestlers need him to be.

 

For cryin' out loud, you've done business with Jesse Ventura after he touched you for nearly a million bucks. You've brought back Steve Austin and Hulk Hogan. You are back on the USA Network after they sued you when you left for Spike TV. Your differences with all of them were much greater than any differences you may have or had with Jim Ross, who was nothing but a loyal employee (although apparently given to telling you uncomfortable truths, which is, we have learned, one sure way to fall out of favor with you), yet, when you felt it would be good for your organization, you welcomed them back, or decided to do business with them. But none of them can do for you now what Jim Ross can do for you now.

[snuffbox 0]

Why would Chris 'I can still kinda talk even though Im in a coma' Cruise care so much about Jim Ross getting his job back?

[Si82 0]

I honestly believe that Chris Cruise is a bitter man. I mean, how long is it since he had a commentary job?

 

However, I will admit that Joey Styles is slowly becoming yet another WWE shill. When he came in at Taboo Tuesday I thought he was great. He did a good job on commentary, being both informative and funny. It was a total breath of fresh air in a company which has become stale.

 

It's sad that Vince McMahon would bring him in only to blast the guy for calling matches for the "internet fans" when all he is doing is his job.

 

The solution should be to let Joey be Joey not just another WWE guy.

 

And for the love of God never, ever bring back Jim Ross. I don't care how much people respect him. He was never the best in the business because he was never as good as Gordon Soile. I hope he never comes back to WWE TV. However, if they ever bring Austin back I think we'll probably have J.R. back too.

[RavishingRickRudo 0]

No idea. Maybe he just likes JR, he seems to have a very high (and ill-founded) opinion on him. Whatever his reasons, it doesn't come off in anyway that CC is looking for a job with the WWE when he says the stuff like I posted.

[Vern Gagne 0]

Big suprise a guy working for the company is a shill. What wrestling company doesn't have shills doing commentary?

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I believe that Styles learned long ago from Heyman and, possibly, Ross that, whenever a wrestler was in a "pinning predicament," the play-by-play announcer should immediately and shrill-ly interrupt whoever else was talking and call the count, then say something like "ooooh, the referee (insert ref name here) got to two and a half." (Why is it always two and a half, by the way? Couldn't it sometimes be two and seven-eights?) This is old style play-by-play and should be stopped.

 

And here I thought part of the annoucers job was to help make the matches seem real. Silly me. If anything, talking OVER a pinning predicament is stupid becuase it tells the viewers that what they are currently seeing isn't particularly important, whereas in a real wrestling match a pinning predicament would be the most important thing.

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I'll take Styles over JR any day of the week. JR was really bad towards the end. Hell, during the WM highlight video they played on RAW, where they showed Austin beating HBK for the WWF Championship, it made me sad, because Ross' commentary was soooo much better than what he was doing towards the end in WWE. At least Styles doesn't rely on the same crappy cliches and one liners week after week after week.

 

As for Styles shilling things and putting over people like Ashley Massaro, what do you expect, for him to say how crappy she is?

 

Fact is, there were plenty of terrible workers in ECW that Joey Styles put over during his time with that promotion.

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As for Styles shilling things and putting over people like Ashley Massaro, what do you expect, for him to say how crappy she is?

 

"OH MY GOD!! She wrestles like Jackie Gayda's long lost sister!!"

 

[Guest Andrew J.]

How does this sound like Chris Cruise looking for a job? It sounds more like Chris Cruise trying to convince the WWE to bring JR back. Well, it's not so much "sounds like" as "most definitely is". People are really fucking stupid.

 

He's just covering his ass to make the essay seem less selfish. JR's not coming back, he knows it, and we know it. It's clear he has little admiration for JR's actual announcing style. Remember, all complaints are a roundabout way of putting oneself over.

[RavishingRickRudo 0]

Wow, you're fucking stupid.

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I was going to say that I had missed Styles since ECW left and I was happy when found out that WWE was brining him in to replace JR, but it disapoints me that they've turned him into a clone of all their other people they have or gone through.

 

Styles and Foley did a respectable job at ONS. Maybe its time they kicked Lawler to the curb, fired Coach (WTF is he still around anyway?) and stuck Foley with Styles. It'd have to be better than what they've got going now although I cant imagine how many times we'd get "Wrestler X iritates Foley and thus a match has to happen".

[tekcop 0]

Wait... So Chris Cruise is the guy from When World's Collide? 'Cause he was really, really bad. He compared everything, and I seriously mean everything that happened in the ring to a movie or an actor or some other Hollywood shit. He was horrible.