SuperJerk 0 Report post Posted February 17, 2006 http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/news/index.cfm?RSS&newsid=5714 RIAA claims copying CDs to iPods is unlawful Does not and has never constituted fair use Emru Townsend US record-label body the RIAA (Recording Industry Association of America) and movie-industry moguls at the MPAA (Motion Picture Association of America) are attempting to argue that copying a CD to a computer for carrying on an iPod does not constitute fair use – and never has. A report from the Electronic Frontier Foundation says 14 organisations, including the two mentioned, have submitted a filing as part of the Digital Millennium Copyright Act's regular review process of exemptions to provisions against tampering with technological protection measures. This means that, in essence, all rights to copy anything are held by the copyright owner. Those rights can be sold or assigned, which is why a record label can reproduce and distribute a given musician's songs. Since copyright holders haven't granted specific permission to make a copy of a song, you aren't allowed to, by the letter of the law. Within American law, "fair use" is an exception that, among other things, allows people to make copies within certain circumstances and constraints. So making a copy of a CD for your own personal use is within the scope of fair use. That's the way copyright law has worked for quite some time. But these new claims show that the right to tote your CD's contents around on your MP3 player were never expressly given, and that, for some reason, fair use doesn't apply. The implication is that all this time, they've been graciously allowing us to make tapes and MP3s from CDs bought for personal use. The RIAA also claims that digital rights management has only increased legitimate access to copyright works. What. The. Fuck. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanadianChick 0 Report post Posted February 17, 2006 This completely blows my mind. It isn't costing them money when an already bought CD is simply copied on another medium. If this is unlawful, then all MP3 players are too, because what else could you do with one? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Slayer 0 Report post Posted February 17, 2006 Chalk another mark up against the DMCA and DRM One easy yet not incredibly easy thing to do would be a boycott on all such media (CDs and DVDs)... I know it would never happen, but it would send a message Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Metal Maniac 0 Report post Posted February 18, 2006 If this is unlawful, then all MP3 players are too, because what else could you do with one? Can't you like, buy songs for download these days? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2GOLD 0 Report post Posted February 18, 2006 If this is unlawful, then all MP3 players are too, because what else could you do with one? Can't you like, buy songs for download these days? But why should someone have to buy a song again if they already bought it on CD? This makes zero sense no matter how they slice it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Metal Maniac 0 Report post Posted February 18, 2006 I'm just saying, MP3 players don't exist soley for the purpose of playing (sometimes) illegally aquired music. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Giuseppe Zangara 0 Report post Posted February 18, 2006 Paying for mp3s is so crushingly stupid, anyway. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Edwin MacPhisto 0 Report post Posted February 18, 2006 I've bought two mp3s in my lifetime. Both were purchased while remarkably drunk. (Highway to the) "Danger Zone," you'll always be a part of me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NoCalMike 0 Report post Posted February 18, 2006 Paying for mp3s is so crushingly stupid, anyway. DING DING - We have a Winner Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheBostonStrangler 0 Report post Posted February 19, 2006 I have bought a few mp3's when the ones floating around aren't of a high quality. Other than that, free for me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mik 0 Report post Posted February 20, 2006 Shit, I buy them. A) I'm lazy - they download from iTunes in seconds B) I'm a Mac freak C) Ever since I got a notice from my ISP from downloading an episode of Entourage, I'm a little freaked out about this stuff. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EricMM 0 Report post Posted February 20, 2006 I was about to create a topic for this. 1) MP3's are just data somewhere. Buying data is really not worth it in this respect. 2) Fuck the RIAA. Download everything now, people. Because it's on like Donkey Kong. I can't put my CD's onto MY MP3 player? Words cannot describe... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AndrewTS 0 Report post Posted February 21, 2006 The lamest part is that purchased music that's downloaded is inevitably compressed, and while you can back them up to CDs, you would face a pain in the ass of a time organizing them. How would it even be enforced? Apple: Download iTunes 7.0! Now with the feature of preventing you from ripping music from CDs! So...you'd probably just download something else to convert them to AAC/MP3s even in that case. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Prime Time Andrew Doyle 0 Report post Posted February 21, 2006 Fuck them. Fuck them up their stupid asses Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pochorenella 0 Report post Posted February 23, 2006 This is one of the most idiotic things I've ever read. What are they gonna do? Arrest me while I'm walking down the street listening music on my iPod? Stupid on so many levels. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Masked Man of Mystery 0 Report post Posted February 23, 2006 So......podcasts and OC Remixes and stuff from archive.org and like sites only? I could, frankly, get along fine with that, it's where I get most of my music and whatnot anyhow. However, they're dead frickin' wrong. It's like they want business to drop off. Even if they enforce this and say the new iTunes doesn't support ripping, people will just buy new music off the sight and screw the CDs, so they'll still lose money(unless some poor fool tries to dl Apollo 18 by They Might Be Giants and get their wallet raped by the Fingertips Sequence Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ravenbomb 0 Report post Posted February 23, 2006 pfft. "Fingertips" was awesome Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skywarp! 0 Report post Posted February 26, 2006 So how far away are we from when they inform us that listening to the albums we bought is illegal? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Masked Man of Mystery 0 Report post Posted February 26, 2006 pfft. "Fingertips" was awesome Oh, it is, but if they're selling it as tracks you're spending like $35 for that album Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2GOLD 0 Report post Posted February 26, 2006 So how far away are we from when they inform us that listening to the albums we bought is illegal? At this rate, next month. If you bought a CD and listened to it and you want to listen to it again, you have to re-buy the CD! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EVIL~! alkeiper 0 Report post Posted March 2, 2006 So how far away are we from when they inform us that listening to the albums we bought is illegal? Now that's just ridiculous. The RIAA would remind you however that hearing the song stuck in your head DOES constitute a violation of copyright. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Masked Man of Mystery 0 Report post Posted March 3, 2006 I'm seriously trying to figure out what's sillier, the new Grateful Dead online show trading policy or the RIAA and MPAA(or whatever the movie thing is called)'s policies. It's like they want to tick people off Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ravenbomb 0 Report post Posted March 3, 2006 pfft. "Fingertips" was awesome Oh, it is, but if they're selling it as tracks you're spending like $35 for that album I was under the impression that Fingertips was all one track Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Smues Report post Posted March 3, 2006 pfft. "Fingertips" was awesome Oh, it is, but if they're selling it as tracks you're spending like $35 for that album I was under the impression that Fingertips was all one track It's like 18 tracks on Apollo 18. It's in one track form on Dial-A-Song. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ravenbomb 0 Report post Posted March 3, 2006 pfft. "Fingertips" was awesome Oh, it is, but if they're selling it as tracks you're spending like $35 for that album I was under the impression that Fingertips was all one track It's like 18 tracks on Apollo 18. It's in one track form on Dial-A-Song. oh, ok. I didn't know they put out more than one version Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
