Lt. Al Giardello 0 Report post Posted June 8, 2006 Alright people what are your predictions for the finals???? Lightheavyweight - Mark Hamill Vs. Michael Bisping Middleweight Kalib Starnes Vs. Kendall Grove Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Damaramu 0 Report post Posted June 8, 2006 Mark Hamill? Will he use a force choke to submit him? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lei Tong 0 Report post Posted June 8, 2006 C&P'ed from elsewhere: The semifinals that make the most sense to me... Bisping/Forbes & Hamill/Haynes for the lightheavyweights. There are several reasons Bisping has to murder Forbes: - They've already built it up slightly (Bispings extreme dislike of Jesse, plus taunts and anger at him being brought back) - The finals would look slightly worse if they included someone who had previously lost to a guy widely perceived to be a pussy-whipped bitch - Hamill/Bisping has been built up since the beginning of the season for the finale, and Haynes presents less of a danger to Matt than the bigger, stronger, more athletic & better wrestler Jesse. For the middleweights, Starne/Singer & Grove/Herman. The way I see it, whomever faces Kalib loses, and whomever faces Rory wins. By this logic, the only toss-up match would seem to be Kendall against the seemingly rusty Ed. Of course, if Ed is ready to be the badass he thinks he is, he should take out Kendall and set up the final against Starne that everyone predicted at the beignning of the season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lei Tong 0 Report post Posted June 8, 2006 The way I see all the possible semis going: Bisping/Hamill: Bisping via KO, Rd.1 Bisping/Forbes: Bisping via submission, Rd.1 Bisping/Haynes: Bisping via KO, Rd.1 Hamill/Forbes: Forbes via Unanimous JD Hamill/Haynes: Hamill via Unanimous JD Forbes/Haynes: Forbes via TKO, Rd.2 Starne/Herman: Starne via submission, Rd.2 Starne/Grove: Starne via TKO, Rd.2 Starne/Singer: Starne via submission, Rd.1 Herman/Grove: Grove via Unanimous JD Herman/Singer: Herman via Unanimous JD Grove/Singer: Grove via Unanimous JD Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lt. Al Giardello 0 Report post Posted June 8, 2006 I think Hamill is a better wrestler then Forbes, but then again I haven't seen much of Jesse. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lei Tong 0 Report post Posted June 8, 2006 I was making comparisons between Forbes & Haynes when i said stronger, etc. However, I do think Jesse has taken to MMA more naturally than Hamill has, and he can throw a decent punch standing or from up top. His weak bottom game and lack of submission skills are likely to be taken advantage of by Hamill, who lacks the G&P or submissions to do so. I could see Jesse pushing the pace and landing the cleaner shots in between getting taken down by Matt en route to a JD. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Angel_Grace_Blue 0 Report post Posted June 9, 2006 Hey, Team Shamrock finally wins something. Also: The return of the losers is an interesting idea. Let's see how things play out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MillenniumMan831 0 Report post Posted June 9, 2006 So Shamrock just won $10,000 for beating Tito in pool? This is like watching Celebrity Wheel of Fortune with the celebrities keeping all the cash and prizes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lei Tong 0 Report post Posted June 9, 2006 OH, SHIT! THE SPOILERS ARE REDEEMED! Too bad Ross is getting stomped. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lei Tong 0 Report post Posted June 9, 2006 "How do you lose to loser?" says the guy who lost to Scary Jerry. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Angel_Grace_Blue 0 Report post Posted June 9, 2006 Is Kalib high/did he get high for the fight? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jwpeer 0 Report post Posted June 9, 2006 kendall looks really good. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lei Tong 0 Report post Posted June 9, 2006 Oh, shit. Kalib dominates early, but it looks like the difference in team cardio may be Kendall's chance going into the second round. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jwpeer 0 Report post Posted June 9, 2006 Cracked rib. Pussy. If it's THAT bad just quit. If it's not that bad, shut the fuck up Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lei Tong 0 Report post Posted June 9, 2006 Good, if somewhat methodical fight so far. Kalib has the slight edge in the first 2 rounds, but Kendall has hurt him standing, possibly damaging his rib with a knee. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jwpeer 0 Report post Posted June 9, 2006 I don't think Kalib has looked very confident on the ground, for whatever reason. He seems hesitant, is Kendall really proficient in submissions at all, to be so cautious? And I would give both rounds to Kendall, imho. 1st by a slight edge, the second more decisively (But both 10/9 rounds) I think Kalib may have taken him down a few times, but didn't really DO anything, and Kendall is -constantly- getting good contact. Plus Kalib may get a pentaly in the 3rd Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lei Tong 0 Report post Posted June 9, 2006 I think Kendall's length has given him problems on the ground (though why he passed up the N/S kimura, I'll never know). Plus, he's been fighting since early in the second with a fucked up rib. This fight is Kendall's for the taking. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jwpeer 0 Report post Posted June 9, 2006 I honestly thought that N/S was gonna be Kalib winning the fight. But Kendall got out of that and basically has controlled things since. Pentaly ANd he gave up cus of the rib?! That's funny.. That knee was BRUTAL. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jwpeer 0 Report post Posted June 9, 2006 He has pulled muscles or a tear in his muscles there. Or maybe a bruise. I don't think he broke anything. Not with those symptoms Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lei Tong 0 Report post Posted June 9, 2006 Great showing by Kendall. Also, billiards aside, Tito is owning Ken. Kendall over Kalib? I never would've thought it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lei Tong 0 Report post Posted June 9, 2006 So next week, Ed pisses on Rory's stuff. Could he possibly try to imitate Leben any more? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Your Paragon of Virtue 0 Report post Posted June 9, 2006 I can't be the only one sick of Dana's fighter bashing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lei Tong 0 Report post Posted June 9, 2006 I missed it. What'd he say? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Your Paragon of Virtue 0 Report post Posted June 9, 2006 Well you probably caught it but didn't take as much offense as I. "do you wanna fight again?" "My head is split open, here AND here, Im outta shape, I can't fight" "Wow that guy just isn't a fighter." Or saying Kalib was a quitter, even though the guy messed up his ribs something fierce. There aren't many boxercise instructors that are so quick to judge the mettle of an MMA fighter. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
razazteca 0 Report post Posted June 9, 2006 So next week, Ed pisses on Rory's stuff. Could he possibly try to imitate Leben any more? Ed is going to dye his hair before the fight? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Your Paragon of Virtue 0 Report post Posted June 9, 2006 Oh, and re: Ken questioning Kalib's will to fight... PETEY! MY HEART! Ironically, he's both lying and telling the truth at the same time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RavishingRickRudo 0 Report post Posted June 9, 2006 What was Dana supposed to say "I respect your decision and understand the mental and physical toll fighting takes on you?" I mean, there is no cursing at all in that. It's just not Sleazy D's way. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Your Paragon of Virtue 0 Report post Posted June 9, 2006 That broken nose is not nearly as bad as having those cuts plus being out of the house for that long. The cuts can easily end a fight a lot sooner than the broken nose can, but for some reason that guy gets a pass while Kris gets shit on. Tait deserved the verbal drubbing though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
starvenger 0 Report post Posted June 9, 2006 So next week, Ed pisses on Rory's stuff. Could he possibly try to imitate Leben any more? Ed is going to dye his hair before the fight? Well, it's already red... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AmericanDragon 0 Report post Posted June 9, 2006 Kalib also had a broken fibula ever since that episode way back where he complained about his leg. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites