Who here supports the current administration?

[Your Paragon of Virtue 0]

I figured the best way to show that you would support them is by voting, so I figure that's the best poll question to use.

 

Obviously, Americans are the only ones directly affected by the man so they should probably be the only ones voting in the poll, but it would be nice to hear more outside perspectives in the posts

[SuperJerk 0]

Someone please post this same poll at the Pit.

[Jingus 0]

Good idea.

[cbacon 0]

Jesus Christ, that forum is scary. Someone please tell me that neocon is a merely a gimmick poster.

[Jingus 0]

Yeah, neocon's a gimmick. We've got a mild plague of gimmick posters, plus a bunch of people from TSM who changed their names, plus various lurkers, so it's damn near impossible to keep track of who's who at times.

[Guest Felonies!]

Nah. I don't support this administration any longer.

[BUTT 0]

Yeah, neocon's a gimmick.

 

HOW DO YOU KNOW?

[2GOLD 0]

No, I don't. More bad decisions than decisions I can get behind.

Course they are still my administration because that "Not my President" crap is really lame and pathetic.

 

ETA: And if the Democrat nominee is Mrs Clinton, I am NOT voting Democrat. I'll vote the Republicans back in before her.

[jesse_ewiak 0]

Giimick posters like neocon are funny because ya' know they're being goofy and over-the-top. Even conservatives like kkk are at least reasonable in their Bushhitletism. :-) But then their are psychopathic fucks like Marney...

 

But our economy is absolutely fantastic, we're at full employment, gold is soaring, and the stock markets are at record highs. We have the President's tax cuts to thank for all of that.

 

Do I wish we'd had a constitutional amendment banning gay "marriage?" Do I wish the death tax had been repealed already? Do I wish we'd militarized the border, renamed the Department of Defense to the Department of War and increased its funding another 200%, shut down the IRS and instituted a flat tax? Of course.

 

As for the war, do I wish we had bombed Mecca? Do I wish we were killing a lot more Moslems a lot more quickly? Do I wish we'd annihilate Tehran, stage a coup in Saudi Arabia, assassinate Assad, and exterminate the Palestinians? Of course, of course, of course.

[iggymcfly 0]

I'll definitely be voting libertarian in the upcoming election. I'm a fiscal conservative, and I hate the move to try to make every country socialist in terms of instituting 50%+ income taxes on the productive members of our society in order to make sure that drunks don't have to work, and people don't have to pay for health insurance.

 

50 years ago, I would have been a Republican. But at this point, I just hate what the party's become. Instead of focusing on the important economic issues that the party was founded on, they spend all their time pandering to Christians about ridiculous non-issues like gay marriage and protecting embryos from stem-cell research.

 

Also, the war is a complete debacle. We had no reason to go over there, we sent too many troops, we're staying too long, and since we moved in, stability in the region has gone down by about 800%. Honestly, I think that a lot of the Muslims in that region are so crazy that they almost need an iron-fisted dictator like Saddam to keep them from blowing each other to bits.

 

Oh, and Mexico's got it right on the drugs. It doesn't do any good to waste all the resources of the police and the prison system on non-violent offenders. You can steal $100,000 from your employer, and they probably won't even make you pay it back, but if you sell a few ounces of weed, they're going to lock you up and throw away the key.

[BruiserKC 0]

On the one hand, there's too many knee-jerk liberals that simply hated Bush from the get-go because he wasn't Al Gore. The Republicans could have thrown Jesus Christ out there Himself as their nominee for President and the liberal Dems would have torn him to shreds.

 

That being said...this administration was given every possible opportunity to win everyone over and has screwed a lot up. On Bush's watch, entitlement (welfare) payouts are on the increase, and it seems like they are even worse at spending than the tax-and-spend crowd.

 

Janet Jackson shows us her tit on national TV, and the first thing they decide to do is go after Howard Stern? And now they decide that we can't choose for ourselves whether to watch things on TV that are good for us so they have to make that choice for us?

 

We all know Bush's bank accounts are on the increase with the rising gas costs. This idea of finding alternative fuel supplies and saving us money sounds good...but will never happen on an oilman's watch.

 

I agree with the invasion of Iraq...Saddam had to go. But he's more interested in playing politics than winning the war. If he would quit catering to the peace crowd we'd have had this thing won a long time ago and the troops would have already been out of there.

 

The border...same thing...Bush is more worried about Hispanic and big-business votes so while he caters to them nothing gets done.

[Dobbs 3K 0]

I'll definitely be voting libertarian in the upcoming election. I'm a fiscal conservative, and I hate the move to try to make every country socialist in terms of instituting 50%+ income taxes on the productive members of our society in order to make sure that drunks don't have to work, and people don't have to pay for health insurance.

 

50 years ago, I would have been a Republican. But at this point, I just hate what the party's become. Instead of focusing on the important economic issues that the party was founded on, they spend all their time pandering to Christians about ridiculous non-issues like gay marriage and protecting embryos from stem-cell research.

 

Also, the war is a complete debacle. We had no reason to go over there, we sent too many troops, we're staying too long, and since we moved in, stability in the region has gone down by about 800%. Honestly, I think that a lot of the Muslims in that region are so crazy that they almost need an iron-fisted dictator like Saddam to keep them from blowing each other to bits.

 

Oh, and Mexico's got it right on the drugs. It doesn't do any good to waste all the resources of the police and the prison system on non-violent offenders. You can steal $100,000 from your employer, and they probably won't even make you pay it back, but if you sell a few ounces of weed, they're going to lock you up and throw away the key.

 

You're right about the 50%+ income tax...that is a European style tax system, and it doesn't work.

 

I also agree on the Republicans focusing too much on social issues like abortion and gay marriage...look, I'm not in favor of abortion, but we're not ever going to get rid of it completely either. The GOP has had plenty of chances to end it or restrict it further, but never have, so let's quit talking about it already.

 

As far as the war...I originally supported it, but now I don't, since we obviously haven't found any WMDs. The President should pay for that mistake, in one way or another. That's why I voted for John Kerry. The only point you made that I don't agree with is that we sent too many troops...most experts, like Colin Powell, have said we started with too FEW. If you're going to fight a war, you do it right and send enough people, and have enough supplies and weapons. You don't try and pretend this is going to be short and sweet, and undersupply the troops.

[Guest Big Chris Studd]

Who here supports the current administration? Options

 

If there was an election tomorrow, would you vote republican?

 

I voted for the current administration, but sad to say, I'm not too thrilled about the issues its had to deal with lately. However, just because I don't support the current administration, doesn't mean I wont vote republican next election... nor does it mean that if a republican runs, they automatically get my vote...

 

Like other posters said, I care about fiscal issues above most other topics. I believe that if the economy is going strong and everyone that wants a job can get one, issues like crime and education will naturally sort themselves out.

 

What ever candidate sounds closer to that ideology is who gets my vote.

[Art Sandusky 0]

Who the hell wants a 50%+ income tax?

 

EDIT: 4.7% unemployment means that we aren't at full employment. That's virtually impossible to attain. Oh, and of course gold is more valuable. Our own paper money is worth less and less by the day.

[snuffbox 0]

Liberals/Terrorists.

[MarvinisaLunatic 0]

I support the current administration..

 

..right over a cliff.

[CheesalaIsGood 0]

I'm not sure I have an opinion on this topic. Sorry.

[Art Sandusky 0]

Anyway, I voted "nah" (big shock) but only because the people in this administration have little to no care for the common good or the insitutions of our society that allowed them to ascend to such a position of power. I'll always have at least a base respect for our democratic processes and continue to support these things. These men don't, so fuck 'em.

[Jingus 0]

Oh, and for those wondering, over at that foaming-at-the-mouth conservative haven known as The Pit where everyone bows down to the altar of Dubya, the current vote is 13-12.

[Your Paragon of Virtue 0]

Hey, for those that voted yeah, you guys gotta show up and defend your stance. So far the only people talking in here are the naysayers, and it's quickly becoming a circlejerk.

[Art Sandusky 0]

Oh, and for those wondering, over at that foaming-at-the-mouth conservative haven known as The Pit where everyone bows down to the altar of Dubya, the current vote is 13-12.

That's believeable, since many people there are, you know, real conservatives, and the West Texas Rednecks don't really qualify as such.

[SuperJerk 0]

Giimick posters like neocon are funny because ya' know they're being goofy and over-the-top. Even conservatives like kkk are at least reasonable in their Bushhitletism. :-) But then their are psychopathic fucks like Marney...

 

But our economy is absolutely fantastic, we're at full employment, gold is soaring, and the stock markets are at record highs. We have the President's tax cuts to thank for all of that.

 

Do I wish we'd had a constitutional amendment banning gay "marriage?" Do I wish the death tax had been repealed already? Do I wish we'd militarized the border, renamed the Department of Defense to the Department of War and increased its funding another 200%, shut down the IRS and instituted a flat tax? Of course.

 

As for the war, do I wish we had bombed Mecca? Do I wish we were killing a lot more Moslems a lot more quickly? Do I wish we'd annihilate Tehran, stage a coup in Saudi Arabia, assassinate Assad, and exterminate the Palestinians? Of course, of course, of course.

 

Now let's compare this genocidal rant to MikeSC's ability to argue for 10 pages against any "liberal" point no matter how much empirical evidence there is to the contrary.

[bob_barron 0]

Why not discuss that genocidal rant, you know- over at the Pit.

[snuffbox 0]

Because hed get slaughtered.

[Dobbs 3K 0]

Who the hell wants a 50%+ income tax?

 

EDIT: 4.7% unemployment means that we aren't at full employment. That's virtually impossible to attain. Oh, and of course gold is more valuable. Our own paper money is worth less and less by the day.

 

No one...but in France, for example, if you make a million dollars a year (or euros, I guess), you can expect to be taxed up to 50%.

[Big Ol' Smitty 0]

Who the hell wants a 50%+ income tax?

 

Eisenhower did.

 

The top marginal rate was 91 percent to and through the Eisenhower years

http://www.democracycollaborative.org/publ...itz_012703.html

 

I think Goldwater's proposed tax plans even had rates well over 50% for the top brackets back in the day.

[Art Sandusky 0]

Who the hell wants a 50%+ income tax?

 

EDIT: 4.7% unemployment means that we aren't at full employment. That's virtually impossible to attain. Oh, and of course gold is more valuable. Our own paper money is worth less and less by the day.

 

No one...but in France, for example, if you make a million dollars a year (or euros, I guess), you can expect to be taxed up to 50%.

Can you think of a person that actually needs that much money, especially if all that's going towards funding public works and institutions? There's nothing wrong at all with heavily taxing the wealthy, unless you forgot that one of the first things you're taught as a child is the importance of sharing. If I made that much money I'd be happy to give up half of it in taxes. Think of it as coerced philanthropy.

[snuffbox 0]

Who the hell wants a 50%+ income tax?

 

Eisenhower did.

 

The top marginal rate was 91 percent to and through the Eisenhower years

http://www.democracycollaborative.org/publ...itz_012703.html

 

I think Goldwater's proposed tax plans even had rates well over 50% for the top brackets back in the day.

 

Goldwater...now there was a liberal/terrorist if there ever was one!

[EricMM 0]

Apparently coerced philanthropy is unAmerican, and will cause everyone to move to...

 

well, they'll hide their money under their matress?

 

Because apparently now every rich person puts their money to R&D and job creation. (biggest eyeroll ever)

[snuffbox 0]

"trickle down" = "pissing on"