Scroby Posted July 6, 2006 Report Posted July 6, 2006 I doubt he'd get in trouble for the pirate comments, Vince didn't like the gimmick anyway, did he? No Vince didn't. Paul was pretty much copying Johnny Depp's Jack Sparrow and since Vince never saw Pirates, Vince never got what Paul was trying to do. Vince was hoping for a John Pierre Lefett type of pirate.
UZI Suicide Posted July 6, 2006 Report Posted July 6, 2006 That makes no sense to me. Would it be that hard for Vince to get the DVD of Pirates and watch it?
Scroby Posted July 6, 2006 Report Posted July 6, 2006 That makes no sense to me. Would it be that hard for Vince to get the DVD of Pirates and watch it? Perhaps its because he's always on the road and is overworked?
JHawk Posted July 6, 2006 Report Posted July 6, 2006 That makes no sense to me. Would it be that hard for Vince to get the DVD of Pirates and watch it? Perhaps its because he's always on the road and is overworked? He can't take two and a half hours to figure out how to get a gimmick over?
Rob Anybody Posted July 6, 2006 Report Posted July 6, 2006 That makes no sense to me. Would it be that hard for Vince to get the DVD of Pirates and watch it? He's probably already got it.
CBright7831 Posted July 6, 2006 Report Posted July 6, 2006 How come shows like Between The Ropes hardly ever get any WWE guests on, but in England, they get to have interviews like this?
benn Posted July 6, 2006 Report Posted July 6, 2006 Man, by the sounds of this interview Randy could teach WWE creative a thing or two about how to get new talents over.
Guest sebbeh65 Posted July 6, 2006 Report Posted July 6, 2006 Randy: "Well, you know, Lex Luger isn't really known for being... um..." Q: "Very good? Randy: "Talented, whatsoever. Yeah, he had a body, but you can kind of "buy a body in a bottle", if you know what I'm saying." Q: "Absolutely." Randy: "That's pretty much what he did. That's my opinion of course. As far as any tapes I've watched of Lex Luger, he's...uh... can I say the shits?" Q: "You can." Randy: "He is the shits."
benn Posted July 6, 2006 Report Posted July 6, 2006 Randy: "Well, you know, Lex Luger isn't really known for being... um..." Q: "Very good? Randy: "Talented, whatsoever. Yeah, he had a body, but you can kind of "buy a body in a bottle", if you know what I'm saying." Q: "Absolutely." Randy: "That's pretty much what he did. That's my opinion of course. As far as any tapes I've watched of Lex Luger, he's...uh... can I say the shits?" Q: "You can." Randy: "He is the shits." Can't argue with that.
Enigma Posted July 6, 2006 Report Posted July 6, 2006 Doesn't shock me that he says negative stuff about Triple H. I don't like Randy Orton in the slightest and think he's a total shithead, but wow, did HHH ever fuck his career.
Black Lushus Posted July 6, 2006 Report Posted July 6, 2006 hmmm rumors are that Orton is going to fued with HHH again... hmmmm Orton is talking shit about HHH and HBK... 2 + 2 = ?
Dobbs 3K Posted July 6, 2006 Report Posted July 6, 2006 Why are people so down on Orton? Is it just 'cause he got pushed so fast right away? I mean, I think he plays a cocky young heel pretty well, and while his wrestling isn't great, he's by no means abysmal in the ring. When he's in there with a good worker, he usually puts on a good match. I mean, I know we've heard about his attitude backstage, but since I've never met the guy, I could care less.
Guest wildpegasus Posted July 6, 2006 Report Posted July 6, 2006 Randy: "Well, you know, Lex Luger isn't really known for being... um..." Q: "Very good? Randy: "Talented, whatsoever. Yeah, he had a body, but you can kind of "buy a body in a bottle", if you know what I'm saying." Q: "Absolutely." Randy: "That's pretty much what he did. That's my opinion of course. As far as any tapes I've watched of Lex Luger, he's...uh... can I say the shits?" Q: "You can." Randy: "He is the shits." Can't argue with that. I can. Luger was pretty good in 89 when he was hungrier. He's had some really good to great stuff against the likes of Flair, Tommy Rick, Brian Pillman, Sting and Ricky Steamboat.
Guest wildpegasus Posted July 6, 2006 Report Posted July 6, 2006 The Spirit Squad gimmick itself isn't the problem... it's them being in constant main events, beating up noted stars 5-on-1. That does nothing to help any of the Squad members, like Randy said. It doesn't help when only Doane shows any sign of balls(taking the sledgehammer from HHH). They don't even come off equally. It's like the NWO B-Team but with Nash shoved into it and everyone knows Nash is miles ahead of Norton and Stevie Ray. Screw that. Norton >>>>>>> Nash (and I'm not that hard on Nash because when he's not being lazy he can be involved in some great wrestling matches). Norton is underrated. One of the best big man presences ever and he's been involved in a tonne of fun matches. He's even going to make my top 100 wrestler of all time list. That's how highly I think of him.
CanadianChick Posted July 6, 2006 Report Posted July 6, 2006 That makes no sense to me. Would it be that hard for Vince to get the DVD of Pirates and watch it? He's probably already got it. I've actually seen that one. Well, the 1st mate does kind of look like Ashley...hmmm.
Gary Floyd Posted July 6, 2006 Report Posted July 6, 2006 - Says Shawn Michaels is balding and Triple H is fat. Say goodbye to that push Randy
Quasar Posted July 6, 2006 Report Posted July 6, 2006 The Spirit Squad gimmick itself isn't the problem... it's them being in constant main events, beating up noted stars 5-on-1. That does nothing to help any of the Squad members, like Randy said. It doesn't help when only Doane shows any sign of balls(taking the sledgehammer from HHH). They don't even come off equally. It's like the NWO B-Team but with Nash shoved into it and everyone knows Nash is miles ahead of Norton and Stevie Ray. Screw that. Norton >>>>>>> Nash (and I'm not that hard on Nash because when he's not being lazy he can be involved in some great wrestling matches). Norton is underrated. One of the best big man presences ever and he's been involved in a tonne of fun matches. He's even going to make my top 100 wrestler of all time list. That's how highly I think of him. Put yourself in the position of the average fan for once and stop analyzing things from a smark's point of view. Kevin Nash is a hell of a lot more credible than WCW jobber Scott Norton and that was the analogy. This is like comparing Bobby Lashley to Paul London, London may be better but Lashley is more credible. Scott Norton's only good work was in Japan because he was essentially used as a jobber in WCW. So, no "screw that" because Norton had no credibility at this point while Nash had tons of it because he was recently World Champion and never actually even lost the belt (He practically gave it to Hogan). Workrate isn't everything son.
Guest Fook Posted July 6, 2006 Report Posted July 6, 2006 Why are people so down on Orton? Is it just 'cause he got pushed so fast right away? That's exactly the reason. He was given the God push right away despite being completely undeserving of it. He needed to spend a couple of years working up the cards to develop all his skills (wrestling, promos, and characterwise) instead of being placed in main events all the time.
Black Lushus Posted July 6, 2006 Report Posted July 6, 2006 wrong...the mishandling of his title reign is what ruined him...his fued with UT didn't help either.
Black Lushus Posted July 6, 2006 Report Posted July 6, 2006 - Says Shawn Michaels is balding and Triple H is fat. Say goodbye to that push Randy WERKD SHEWT
Dobbs 3K Posted July 6, 2006 Report Posted July 6, 2006 I'm guessing Orton is fairly tight with HBK and HHH. I'd assume those comments are a joke, more than anything. As far as Scott Norton, he actually was portrayed as a fairly dangerous big man in WCW, for a year or two anyway. His team with Buff Bagwell also got a pretty good push, but that's neither here nor there.
Hasbeen1 Posted July 6, 2006 Report Posted July 6, 2006 The Spirit Squad gimmick itself isn't the problem... it's them being in constant main events, beating up noted stars 5-on-1. That does nothing to help any of the Squad members, like Randy said. It doesn't help when only Doane shows any sign of balls(taking the sledgehammer from HHH). They don't even come off equally. It's like the NWO B-Team but with Nash shoved into it and everyone knows Nash is miles ahead of Norton and Stevie Ray. Screw that. Norton >>>>>>> Nash (and I'm not that hard on Nash because when he's not being lazy he can be involved in some great wrestling matches). Norton is underrated. One of the best big man presences ever and he's been involved in a tonne of fun matches. He's even going to make my top 100 wrestler of all time list. That's how highly I think of him. Put yourself in the position of the average fan for once and stop analyzing things from a smark's point of view. Kevin Nash is a hell of a lot more credible than WCW jobber Scott Norton and that was the analogy. This is like comparing Bobby Lashley to Paul London, London may be better but Lashley is more credible. Scott Norton's only good work was in Japan because he was essentially used as a jobber in WCW. So, no "screw that" because Norton had no credibility at this point while Nash had tons of it because he was recently World Champion and never actually even lost the belt (He practically gave it to Hogan). Workrate isn't everything son. Working in Japan always adds credibility points, to some.
Quasar Posted July 6, 2006 Report Posted July 6, 2006 The Spirit Squad gimmick itself isn't the problem... it's them being in constant main events, beating up noted stars 5-on-1. That does nothing to help any of the Squad members, like Randy said. It doesn't help when only Doane shows any sign of balls(taking the sledgehammer from HHH). They don't even come off equally. It's like the NWO B-Team but with Nash shoved into it and everyone knows Nash is miles ahead of Norton and Stevie Ray. Screw that. Norton >>>>>>> Nash (and I'm not that hard on Nash because when he's not being lazy he can be involved in some great wrestling matches). Norton is underrated. One of the best big man presences ever and he's been involved in a tonne of fun matches. He's even going to make my top 100 wrestler of all time list. That's how highly I think of him. Put yourself in the position of the average fan for once and stop analyzing things from a smark's point of view. Kevin Nash is a hell of a lot more credible than WCW jobber Scott Norton and that was the analogy. This is like comparing Bobby Lashley to Paul London, London may be better but Lashley is more credible. Scott Norton's only good work was in Japan because he was essentially used as a jobber in WCW. So, no "screw that" because Norton had no credibility at this point while Nash had tons of it because he was recently World Champion and never actually even lost the belt (He practically gave it to Hogan). Workrate isn't everything son. Working in Japan always adds credibility points, to some. Shawn Michaels never did a tour of Japan with a Japanese promotion, does that make him any less of a worker? I can name off A LOT of good workers that never toured with a Japanese company, Bret Hart, Triple H, Shawn Michaels, Kurt Angle, The Rock and there are many others. Does this make them any less credible? And anyway, I was talking about credibility to the average fan. The average fans knows nothing about puro so wrestling to Japan to them is like saying that they wrestled in North Dakota or Montana. Sure, it's a far off place, but why should they care?
Hasbeen1 Posted July 7, 2006 Report Posted July 7, 2006 The Spirit Squad gimmick itself isn't the problem... it's them being in constant main events, beating up noted stars 5-on-1. That does nothing to help any of the Squad members, like Randy said. It doesn't help when only Doane shows any sign of balls(taking the sledgehammer from HHH). They don't even come off equally. It's like the NWO B-Team but with Nash shoved into it and everyone knows Nash is miles ahead of Norton and Stevie Ray. Screw that. Norton >>>>>>> Nash (and I'm not that hard on Nash because when he's not being lazy he can be involved in some great wrestling matches). Norton is underrated. One of the best big man presences ever and he's been involved in a tonne of fun matches. He's even going to make my top 100 wrestler of all time list. That's how highly I think of him. Put yourself in the position of the average fan for once and stop analyzing things from a smark's point of view. Kevin Nash is a hell of a lot more credible than WCW jobber Scott Norton and that was the analogy. This is like comparing Bobby Lashley to Paul London, London may be better but Lashley is more credible. Scott Norton's only good work was in Japan because he was essentially used as a jobber in WCW. So, no "screw that" because Norton had no credibility at this point while Nash had tons of it because he was recently World Champion and never actually even lost the belt (He practically gave it to Hogan). Workrate isn't everything son. Working in Japan always adds credibility points, to some. Shawn Michaels never did a tour of Japan with a Japanese promotion, does that make him any less of a worker? I can name off A LOT of good workers that never toured with a Japanese company, Bret Hart, Triple H, Shawn Michaels, Kurt Angle, The Rock and there are many others. Does this make them any less credible? And anyway, I was talking about credibility to the average fan. The average fans knows nothing about puro so wrestling to Japan to them is like saying that they wrestled in North Dakota or Montana. Sure, it's a far off place, but why should they care? To some, yes, the ones you mentioned would be even more highly rated.
benn Posted July 7, 2006 Report Posted July 7, 2006 Randy: "Well, you know, Lex Luger isn't really known for being... um..." Q: "Very good? Randy: "Talented, whatsoever. Yeah, he had a body, but you can kind of "buy a body in a bottle", if you know what I'm saying." Q: "Absolutely." Randy: "That's pretty much what he did. That's my opinion of course. As far as any tapes I've watched of Lex Luger, he's...uh... can I say the shits?" Q: "You can." Randy: "He is the shits." Can't argue with that. I can. Luger was pretty good in 89 when he was hungrier. He's had some really good to great stuff against the likes of Flair, Tommy Rick, Brian Pillman, Sting and Ricky Steamboat. Luger has never been, and never will be good. If you liked watching the coked-up, roided-up slug then good for you.
Guest Princess Leena Posted July 7, 2006 Report Posted July 7, 2006 Why are people so down on Orton? Is it just 'cause he got pushed so fast right away? I mean, I think he plays a cocky young heel pretty well, and while his wrestling isn't great, he's by no means abysmal in the ring. When he's in there with a good worker, he usually puts on a good match. I mean, I know we've heard about his attitude backstage, but since I've never met the guy, I could care less. I could go into why smarks hate Randy Orton and lurve Samoa Joe, but we don't need that again. The booking of Randy has been a huge problem. People think he's getting the God push, yet he loses a majority of these main events, and looks like a pussy from most of them. He already had the lengthy reign with the IC title, so how much more time could he spend there. Basically, Randy just got everything way too early.
jester Posted July 7, 2006 Report Posted July 7, 2006 The booking of Randy has been a huge problem. People think he's getting the God push, yet he loses a majority of these main events, and looks like a pussy from most of them. He already had the lengthy reign with the IC title, so how much more time could he spend there. Orton's push was just plain weird. It was as if they changed their minds about him every week. One week, he's the future, and he needs to be protected. The next, he was a jobber to the stars at best. And then he'd be back to the company's pet project again. I think he got a "Half-God Push." As if WWE wanted to give him a God Push, but forgot exactly how that was done.
fazzle Posted July 7, 2006 Report Posted July 7, 2006 I'm guessing Orton is fairly tight with HBK and HHH. I'd assume those comments are a joke, more than anything. As far as Scott Norton, he actually was portrayed as a fairly dangerous big man in WCW, for a year or two anyway. His team with Buff Bagwell also got a pretty good push, but that's neither here nor there. "Hey Norton! The Cat's in the ring! He's calling you out man! He's calling you out again!"
Enigma Posted July 9, 2006 Report Posted July 9, 2006 I doubt he'd get in trouble for the pirate comments, Vince didn't like the gimmick anyway, did he? No Vince didn't. Paul was pretty much copying Johnny Depp's Jack Sparrow and since Vince never saw Pirates, Vince never got what Paul was trying to do. Vince was hoping for a John Pierre Lefett type of pirate. I don't recall Jean-Pierre Lafitte having any kind of personality at all. The only thing I remember him doing was stealing Bret Hart's jacket.
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