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[iliketurtles]

Angle in UFC 10 years ago would of been a different story...hell even maybe 5 years ago would be a different story.

 

But one headlock gone wrong in UFC, Angle would be dead.

 

But of course, if Angle was in UFC they could market him vs. Shamrock...and that would probably be the biggest money match they've ever done.

[Lt. Al Giardello]

I really won't be suprised if we see Angle in TNA by the end of the year...

[Cheech Tremendous]

I hate to say this about anyone, but I wouldn't be surprised if we lost Angle sometime in the next year. He's just been spiralling downward the past couple years and I'm not sure there is much that can be done about it at this point unless he chooses to get help for himself.

[Black Lushus]

he'll die in the ring...watch...

[LJSexay]

man.. that is so horrific, and not just because you're saying it, but because of how truly feasible it is..

[NoCalMike]

Well it's nice to see Vince was warming up to RVD due to the strength of his matches. I mean that is hard to believe actually. Also it looks like this suspension is a 30 day setback in what is eventually going to be a huge RVD title push to establish the title.

[Hawk 34]

Anyone who even thinks Angle could do MMA is a fool. There's probably 1-3 people in the entire WWE roster who could at this point consider a career in MMA and only 1 would really have a chance at success.

 

Oh, and it's not Chris Benoit (someone is bound to suggest him).

[Dandy]

Please elaborate.

 

I am not agreeing/disagreeing, I just want to know which wrestlers you are talking about.

[Hawk 34]

The Undertaker has enough training and background knowledge of the sport to consider a possible stint in the MMA world but his age and laundry list of injuries would derail any actual career in MMA. He does have a slight chance of getting a couple tomato can matches in hopes of being a possible draw.

 

Shelton Benjamin and Charlie Haas have the legit wrestling background and are still young and relatively healthy that they could leave WWE and with a couple years of training? Might have a chance.

 

The one guy with a LEGIT shot? Oleg Prudius. He has experience in legit wrestling, kick-boxing and is a physical freak of nature.

[iliketurtles]

I would of said Lesnar, Taker, Benoit, Angle, and Tazz at one point in the past. Everyone always said Big Show would be interesting in there but that would be one those things were he'd have to literally catch whoever he was fighting like...within seconds of the fight for him to do damage because he wouldn't be able to last against most guys.

 

I'd say for guys in WWE now...Lashley might hold his own, Mark Henry would be just like the deal with Big Show, Finlay and Regal if they weren't up there in age,...

[Hawk 34]

I would of said Lesnar, Benoit, Angle, and Tazz at one point in the past. Everyone always said Big Show would be interesting in there but that would be one those things were he'd have to literally catch whoever he was fighting like...within seconds of the fight for him to do damage because he wouldn't be able to last against most guys.

 

I'd say for guys in WWE now...Lashley might hold his own, Mark Henry would be just like the deal with Big Show, Finlay and Regal if they weren't up there in age,...

 

I'd give you Lesnar and Angle(pre-WWE) but naming people like Henry, TBS? Each have incredible lack of cardio and would easily be beat by any decent fighter.

 

Having a reputation as a tough guy in a worked sport means nothing, so that eliminates Benoit, Regal and Finlay right away.

[gWIL]

Call me crazy, but the card for GAB doesn't seem all that horrible. Four of the matches could be really, really good:

 

Batista vs. Henry

Rey vs. Booker for the title

Lashley vs. Regal vs. Finlay for the US Title

Undertaker vs. Khali in a Punjabi prison match

London and Kendrick vs. Noble and Kash for the tag titles

Crazy vs. Psicosis.

 

 

I might go to it..........

 

I was thinking of going myself. Cheap tickets are only $20 and for me Indy is only a couple hour drive.

[NoCalMike]

The Miz could handle himself in an MMA ring, well actually he couldn't, but I'd still like to see him thrown in there against Silva just for shits & giggles.

[Lei Tong]

The one guy with a LEGIT shot? Oleg Prudius. He has experience in legit wrestling, kick-boxing and is a physical freak of nature.

 

Actually, I think Prudius' kickboxing experience is rather limited (I'm unsure if goes beyond some training and association with the USKBA), and when it comes to MMA, superheavyweights are presumed unable to take a punch from another big guy until proven otherwise.

[Lt. Al Giardello]

Lashley if he had good training would kill shit I think. He's really athletic, and has wrestling background.

[cynicalprofit]

And no one suggested the ass kicking legend Haku....color me disappointed.

[The Amazing Rando]

The original plan for 7/3 Raw was Van Dam and Sabu vs. Edge and Mick Foley vs. Cena and Flair.

 

I wish we would have gotten that main event.

 

 

Ha. I called it. Where's my damn cookie.

[The Niggardly King]

I would of said Lesnar, Benoit, Angle, and Tazz at one point in the past. Everyone always said Big Show would be interesting in there but that would be one those things were he'd have to literally catch whoever he was fighting like...within seconds of the fight for him to do damage because he wouldn't be able to last against most guys.

 

I'd say for guys in WWE now...Lashley might hold his own, Mark Henry would be just like the deal with Big Show, Finlay and Regal if they weren't up there in age,...

 

I'd give you Lesnar and Angle(pre-WWE) but naming people like Henry, TBS? Each have incredible lack of cardio and would easily be beat by any decent fighter.

 

Having a reputation as a tough guy in a worked sport means nothing, so that eliminates Benoit, Regal and Finlay right away.

 

What about Al Snow from about 5-7 years ago? I mean he does have a good background to have maybe been decent back then.

[Lei Tong]

I would of said Lesnar, Benoit, Angle, and Tazz at one point in the past. Everyone always said Big Show would be interesting in there but that would be one those things were he'd have to literally catch whoever he was fighting like...within seconds of the fight for him to do damage because he wouldn't be able to last against most guys.

 

I'd say for guys in WWE now...Lashley might hold his own, Mark Henry would be just like the deal with Big Show, Finlay and Regal if they weren't up there in age,...

 

I'd give you Lesnar and Angle(pre-WWE) but naming people like Henry, TBS? Each have incredible lack of cardio and would easily be beat by any decent fighter.

 

Having a reputation as a tough guy in a worked sport means nothing, so that eliminates Benoit, Regal and Finlay right away.

 

What about Al Snow from about 5-7 years ago? I mean he does have a good background to have maybe been decent back then.

 

Any idea what his training background was back then, aside from some catch wrestling? Even 7 years ago MMA was starting to evolve past the point where random tough guys could simply show up and do well.

[Downhome]

The original plan for 7/3 Raw was Van Dam and Sabu vs. Edge and Mick Foley vs. Cena and Flair.

 

I wish we would have gotten that main event.

 

 

Ha. I called it. Where's my damn cookie.

 

[The Niggardly King]

I would of said Lesnar, Benoit, Angle, and Tazz at one point in the past. Everyone always said Big Show would be interesting in there but that would be one those things were he'd have to literally catch whoever he was fighting like...within seconds of the fight for him to do damage because he wouldn't be able to last against most guys.

 

I'd say for guys in WWE now...Lashley might hold his own, Mark Henry would be just like the deal with Big Show, Finlay and Regal if they weren't up there in age,...

 

I'd give you Lesnar and Angle(pre-WWE) but naming people like Henry, TBS? Each have incredible lack of cardio and would easily be beat by any decent fighter.

 

Having a reputation as a tough guy in a worked sport means nothing, so that eliminates Benoit, Regal and Finlay right away.

 

What about Al Snow from about 5-7 years ago? I mean he does have a good background to have maybe been decent back then.

 

Any idea what his training background was back then, aside from some catch wrestling? Even 7 years ago MMA was starting to evolve past the point where random tough guys could simply show up and do well.

 

I believe some background in martial arts, mat grappling, free style, and shoot-fight wrestling. The only reason I've seen him getting mentioned before is the fact that he had a hand in training Dan Severn for four Ultimate Fighting Championship tournaments, and was also in his corner for them. A lot of people think he would have been great back around the beginning of the UFC, because he's pretty good at more than 1 style.

[Lei Tong]

I would of said Lesnar, Benoit, Angle, and Tazz at one point in the past. Everyone always said Big Show would be interesting in there but that would be one those things were he'd have to literally catch whoever he was fighting like...within seconds of the fight for him to do damage because he wouldn't be able to last against most guys.

 

I'd say for guys in WWE now...Lashley might hold his own, Mark Henry would be just like the deal with Big Show, Finlay and Regal if they weren't up there in age,...

 

I'd give you Lesnar and Angle(pre-WWE) but naming people like Henry, TBS? Each have incredible lack of cardio and would easily be beat by any decent fighter.

 

Having a reputation as a tough guy in a worked sport means nothing, so that eliminates Benoit, Regal and Finlay right away.

 

What about Al Snow from about 5-7 years ago? I mean he does have a good background to have maybe been decent back then.

 

Any idea what his training background was back then, aside from some catch wrestling? Even 7 years ago MMA was starting to evolve past the point where random tough guys could simply show up and do well.

 

I believe some background in martial arts, mat grappling, free style, and shoot-fight wrestling. The only reason I've seen him getting mentioned before is the fact that he had a hand in training Dan Severn for four Ultimate Fighting Championship tournaments, and was also in his corner for them. A lot of people think he would have been great back around the beginning of the UFC, because he's pretty good at more than 1 style.

 

Sounds like your average, early-era Pancrase fighter:

 

Good enough to submit know-nothings & trade wins with fellow middle of the road types, but not good enough to compete with the cream of the crop.

[luke-o]

I just hope to god Mitchell doesnt go to ECW. Please god stay where you are.

[cabbageboy]

Pro wrestling and UFC are two completely different things. In fact they are about as different in ideology as possible. MMA is about legit beating someone's ass and winning a fight. Pro wrestling is about pulling your punches and kicks and doing moves that look painful but aren't.

 

I doubt anyone in WWE or TNA that has been wrestling for a long while could be viable in UFC. Why bother?

[daileyxplanet]

I can't believe nobody mentioned KAMA MUSTAFA THE SUPREME FIGHTING MACHINE>

[Twisted Intestine]

Pro wrestling and UFC are two completely different things. In fact they are about as different in ideology as possible. MMA is about legit beating someone's ass and winning a fight. Pro wrestling is about pulling your punches and kicks and doing moves that look painful but aren't.

 

Never woulda thunk it.

 

Swimming and Fire fighting are two completely different things. I guess Fire Fighters can't also swim if they trained for it.

[razazteca]

I bet Jim Duggan could KO the current UFC heavyweight champion Tim Sylvia.

[Guest wildpegasus]

And no one suggested the ass kicking legend Haku....color me disappointed.

 

The UFC in their early days tried to bring him in but WCW stopped it I believe because they didn't want to risk him losing.

[Guest burth179]

Angle in his PRIME would probably have held his own in the UFC. It's too hard to say without him getting in there and doing it though.

 

(By the way it would be a shame if Angle is addicted to those pills, but I wouldn't doubt it. You can't seem to get the same story about Angle on any 2 sites, leading me to beleive something is being covered up by WWE. Perhaps that is what it is)

 

Other than him, not many could hold their own without some training in a different style most likely. Now with some type of formal MMA training, I wouldn't doubt that some guys could beat some ass.

 

I saw Meng/Haku mentioned, I heard he was legit tougher than almost anyone. But was he just tough in a "bar brawling" sense, or did he actually have some type of kick boxer training or something?

 

But as everyone else said it's a totally different thing.

 

I was never too impressed with Shamrock's wrestling skills, but he was great in UFC (not anymore though, just hang it up already). Same with Dan the Beast. Kenny had 0 charisma and I didn't particularly enjoy his matches inside the ring either.

 

Also I wanted to ask Lei Tong a question about this statement, "Even 7 years ago MMA was starting to evolve past the point where random tough guys could simply show up and do well."

 

Now I am not too big into MMA, but to me it seems like Chuck Lidell is nothing more than a random tough guy and he's the best they got right now (at least in UFC). So based off of that, can random tough guys still do well? Or I am I selling Lidell short on his knowledge of fighting styles? I admittedly haven't watched enough of him to know, it just seems every time I have seen him it's all straight up fighting with some kicks mixed in there (was he trained as a kickboxer iniitally?)

[Hunter's Torn Quad]

Angle in his prime would have had the dedication to have learned enough that he would be a real threat, assuming his neck would have held up.

 

Chuck Liddell is very well-rounded and is definitely more than a random tough guy. One UFC exec has even said that if WWE do any more of those open challenges, like the Kurt Angle one, they'll use Chuck to call them on it.