TNA News and notes - 8/21

[Hunter's Torn Quad 0]

Hard Justice poll

 

Thumbs Up: 82 (75.9%)

Thumbs Down: 1 (0.9%)

Thumbs in the Middle: 25 (22.9%)

 

Best Match

 

Joe vs. Rhino vs. Brown: 87

Styles and Daniels vs. LAX: 15

 

Worst Match

 

Gail Kim vs. Sirelda: 72

Jarrett vs. Sting: 14

 

While Monty Brown was doing his long promo outside, the idea was for Joe and Rhino to attack him to start the FCA match but that idea was dropped when they got word they were ready to return inside.

 

The FCA match came close to not happening. The original finish was Joe pinning Rhino, but with Rhino getting over so big with his recent promos it was changed to Joe pinning Brown. When Brown arrived and found out he quit on the spot, and had to be heavily talked into doing the job by Joe and Terry Taylor. Dave said that Brown wound up delivering the performance of his year if not his whole career, and said that, for the first time since his matches with Jarrett, Brown looked like the performer the promotion wanted him to be.

 

The next day at TV, Brown and Ron Killings asked Terry Taylor for their release. Taylor has been trying to talk them into staying, but right now nothing is decided, though Brown is free to go anyway soon as his deal runs out. When Killings spoke to Taylor and Taylor mentioned that Brown had just asked for his release as well earlier, Killings noted that the two of them have something in common.

 

The big angle was Christian turning on Sting, allowing Jarrett to retain the title which is set to build to a Title vs. Career match at Bound for Glory on 10/22.

 

There is tremendous heat (and Dave calls that an understatement) on Kevin Nash, to the point that even people who supported his cause even though they could see him burying Sabin, and even those who never have anything bad to say about Nash, were burying Nash. Nash claimed an injury that would prevent him from wrestling, coincidentally when he was set to put Sabin over clean, and also coincidentally the day of the PPV was the last day of his contract, and a lot of people are admitting that he played the company and got away with it. The original idea of Nash putting over Sabin clean earlier was changed to Nash beating Sabin, Sabin beating Shelly in a tag and then Sabin finally beating Nash in the end. Most everyone conceded that the idea backfired, in regards to getting Sabin over, and Nash was only getting himself over. It was acknowledged by the booking committee that Shelly was also getting over, and that Sabin was going to beat Nash, for whatever that was worth, in the end, to build to a title shot against Sen Shi on 9/24.

 

Except for Sting, Nash, at $5,000 a shot, is the highest paid guy in the promotion, and with his track record of injuries springing up the day before a PPV where he is scheduled to lose, nobody is believing his injury story, even if it is real. With his contract done, he’s not coming back to the job, and the strong feeling internally is to never book him to wrestle again.

 

The only set matches for No Surrender on 9/24 are the main event, which will be LAX vs. Styles and Daniels in an Ultimate X match, and Sen Shi vs. Sabin. Also set are Christian vs. Rhino, and Raven vs. Abyss vs. Runt in some kind of garbage match.

 

Eric Young vs. Johnny Devine: **1/2

Chris Sabin vs. Alex Shelly: **1/2

Abyss vs. Runt: ***

Samoa Joe vs. Rhino vs. Monty Brown: ****1/4 Dave said all three gave blow-away performances

Sen Shi vs. Petey Williams vs. Jay Lethal: **1/2 Dave said he doesn’t know what the point of Lethal almost beating Jarrett if they weren’t going to do anything with him after.

Styles and Daniels vs. LAX: ***3/4

Jarrett vs. Sting: **1/4

 

Other News:

 

Spike and TNA are negotiating for a new two-hour show. Day, time and start date are not decided on yet, but Monday night is not looking likely.

 

The reason for taping three weeks of TV on 8/14 and 9/4 was purely a costing cutting measure.

 

Goldberg signed a 90-day holding deal with Spike, and naturally the idea is coming up of Spike paying some of the money to sign Goldberg for TNA like they did with Sting.

 

TNA attempted to get things with Hector Garza worked out as Dixie Carter finally made the call to go after the Latin market, but Garza is still banned from the US for nine more years, over the steroid deal a few years ago, so it’s not something considered doable right now.

 

Sen Shi has a new contract but he has new heat from the PPV; in the match Jay Lethal missed a spot and Sen Shi responded by roughing Lethal up to where Lethal was either knocked out or nearly knocked out. Konnan and Homicide had been pushing for Shi to be put into LAX, but were told that after what happened were told that Shi isn’t going to be rewarded by being part of the hot group. Shi does still have a program set leading into Bound For Glory, presumably involving Sabin, so he’s still going to get pushed.

 

The same isn’t so with Monty Brown, as his deal expires in less than a month, and he’s figured to have less then a 50/50 chance of staying and isn’t involved in any long-term plans. The frustration with Brown is that everyone sees him as a nice guy and great athlete, but he doesn’t have the drive to improve. The gist is that Brown makes enough money outside wrestling, that he doesn’t feel it’s worth it to wrestle on weekends to get ring time; he almost never works the Michigan indy shows that are only a few hours drive from his home.

 

There is a plan to build a Konnan vs. Jim Cornette feud, nothing at all physical, but with verbal duels.

 

Hernandez signed a deal this week, and wasn’t going to get the tag titles until he was signed.

 

At the taping on 8/14 after the Dutt, Lethal and Sabin vs. Shelly Devin and Williams tag match, there was major heat on Shelly and Sabin, Shelly in particular, over their not selling for their opponents, with Shelly apparently not wanting to sell Dutt’s punches.

 

Says the split-up of AMW is a back and forth problem, in that Storm and Harris want to break up as they are tired of teaming, but it’s also recognized that they may mean far more as a team than singles.

 

Joe may have suffered a busted ear drum at the taping from a punch from Ron Killings.

[Jacques 0]

I think Senshi is getting close to Juvi for being the biggest moron in wrestling.

[bob_barron 0]

Thanks for posting this HTQ, good to see Low Ki is still a moron.

 

Any noteworthy ROH news and notes?

[Guest Shylock]

They should cut Roode's "I need a manager" push and give it to Killings instead as a way of inticing him to stay. Go the whole "Terrell Owens with an agent" deal that everyone was suggesting they give to someone a while ago. He's got the charisma, presence and mic skills to pull it off better than Roode has. Rebuild him back to the World title.

[Guest DRH 502]

I don't see why someone doesn't kick Low Ki's ass. If he wants to fight he should go to Pride...Hell UFC just restarted the 155 pound division he needs to get his little bitch ass up there and fight if he is gonna fight.

[Guest Connzilla]

Why would you rough up Lethal? So he missed a spot it's not like Ki's never missed a spot before?

[DangerousDamon 0]

Why would you rough up Lethal? So he missed a spot it's not like Ki's never missed a spot before?

 

Lethal's probably used to Ki beating the crap out of him.

[GODSON 0]

Since they cannot get Garza, they should push heavily to get Mistico. It's really no other choice, he can really be a major star. If this was ECW(original when Tod Gordon was still a part of the fed) or WCW,Mistico would be on tv right now.

[reign 0]

AMW needs to stay as a team...they will be worthless as singles right now as there just isn't any room for them and they have the potential to be a great heel team....

[Scroby 0]

Can anyone else picture Low Ki in LAX? I just don't think he'll fit in the group.

[LucharesuFan619 0]

When Killings spoke to Taylor and Taylor mentioned that Brown had just asked for his release as well earlier, Killings noted that the two of them have something in common.

 

Ouch...that's gotta hurt. But come on now, Terry Taylor is a good guy, its not like he's a Johnny Ace or something...

[Magus 0]

They should cut Roode's "I need a manager" push and give it to Killings instead as a way of inticing him to stay. Go the whole "Terrell Owens with an agent" deal that everyone was suggesting they give to someone a while ago. He's got the charisma, presence and mic skills to pull it off better than Roode has. Rebuild him back to the World title.

 

Roode is probably getting that spot because of his connection with D'Amore. Not that Roode is horrible, but a push like that could be given to any number of guys who are way more talented (Killings being one of them). Politics aplenty in TNA.

[AlaskanHero 0]

Can anyone else picture Low Ki in LAX? I just don't think he'll fit in the group.

He fit pretty damn well in the Rottwilers and it's not like the Rottwilers were all that much different from LAX.

[GODSON 0]

They should cut Roode's "I need a manager" push and give it to Killings instead as a way of inticing him to stay. Go the whole "Terrell Owens with an agent" deal that everyone was suggesting they give to someone a while ago. He's got the charisma, presence and mic skills to pull it off better than Roode has. Rebuild him back to the World title.

 

Roode is probably getting that spot because of his connection with D'Amore. Not that Roode is horrible, but a push like that could be given to any number of guys who are way more talented (Killings being one of them). Politics aplenty in TNA.

 

But Roode also looks and fit the role. Ron Killings or anybody else in TNA do not.

[Mike wanna be 0]

They should cut Roode's "I need a manager" push and give it to Killings instead as a way of inticing him to stay. Go the whole "Terrell Owens with an agent" deal that everyone was suggesting they give to someone a while ago. He's got the charisma, presence and mic skills to pull it off better than Roode has. Rebuild him back to the World title.

 

Roode is probably getting that spot because of his connection with D'Amore. Not that Roode is horrible, but a push like that could be given to any number of guys who are way more talented (Killings being one of them). Politics aplenty in TNA.

 

But Roode also looks and fit the role. Ron Killings or anybody else in TNA do not.

Also, considering that they just got burned by Nash (a guy whose contract was running out) I don't think that Killings or Brown will be featured much in the next 3 shows to be taped until they know they've got a contract and they'll be around. Why spend the time building up Killings for the spot when he could walk at nearly any time?

[Timmy8271 0]

Nash is awesome. I hope he goes to the wwe and doesn't wrestle.

[Guest netslob]

They should cut Roode's "I need a manager" push and give it to Killings instead as a way of inticing him to stay. Go the whole "Terrell Owens with an agent" deal that everyone was suggesting they give to someone a while ago. He's got the charisma, presence and mic skills to pull it off better than Roode has. Rebuild him back to the World title.

 

 

the whole point of having a manager is for them to do the talking for you. Roode needs that more then Killings does.

[Guest Shylock]

They should cut Roode's "I need a manager" push and give it to Killings instead as a way of inticing him to stay. Go the whole "Terrell Owens with an agent" deal that everyone was suggesting they give to someone a while ago. He's got the charisma, presence and mic skills to pull it off better than Roode has. Rebuild him back to the World title.

 

 

the whole point of having a manager is for them to do the talking for you. Roode needs that more then Killings does.

The whole point of pushing someone is that they have a good deal of upside to putting time into them. Roode doesn't have that, Killings does. Killings also has fan support out there and could grow into a draw for the company. Bobby Roode won't ever make it past midcard. An agent-type wouldn't exactly have to do all the talking, it would be a compliment to the repackaging of Killings.

 

They could do something with it like this: Killings gets upset with his treatment in the company, never being given the ball, etc, so he decides he won't work unless he can renegotiate the terms of his contract. Cornette could refuse being strongarmed into renegotiating the contract and just be done with him. They could do a whole couple weeks worth of the fans doing a "we want Killings" campaign type thing. They could do a whole gimmick with Killings fans that write in and maybe calling them Truth Addicts, or whatever. Cornette buckles under fan pressure and decides to negotiate. Killings, instead of going himself, sends in his agent and the agent requests a pay increase, more opportunities, etc. Let them redesign the Impact Zone a bit. Add a bit more ego to Killings and have him get his agent to suggest that he's a bigger star than LAX and they have their own entrance way and locker room, and he's a bigger star than all of them.. So why doesn't he have either? Not sure where they could go with the design of it, but still. With giving his fans a nickname, repackaging him and basically evolving Killings' character, giving him new music, his own entrance way, and maybe a new Truth logo for merch.. He could make a hell of a lot more money for TNA than Bobby Roode ever will.

[Timmy8271 0]

Turn Killings heel or just let him go. That job to A1 just killed him.

 

I'm still waiting to see what's so good about Roode?

[FroGG_NeaL 0]

Nash is awesome. I hope he goes to the wwe and doesn't wrestle.

 

 

I know, right?

 

Nash being lazy.

Hall being plastered.

Hogan being Crippled.

 

That nWo against a DX of two guys in thier 40's playing roles that 20 year old should be playing, and sucking at it. Especially Michaels, who's knee is almost shot and then there's HHH whose just now getting himself glued back together.

 

That fued would be the greatest thing ever.

 

 

 

And I'm not being sarcastic at all.

[Guest Connzilla]

With Killings and Brown gone i hope TNA learns from this and uses people right in the future

[Star Ocean 3 0]

Turn Killings heel or just let him go. That job to A1 just killed him.

 

I'm still waiting to see what's so good about Roode?

 

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[FroGG_NeaL 0]

Dutt is ahead by 3 votes.

[Guest Jack Potts]

I just saw my first TNA house show here in Columbia, SC a couple weeks ago.

 

Ron Killings had a remarkably entertaining match with Petey Williams. He had the crowd in the palm of his hand the minute he walked from behind the curtains. Ron Killings has some of the crispest, fastest, best sounding punches in the business. Killings did a spot where he paraded Williams along the barricade allowing random fans to chop the Canadian. The crowd loved it, and you could see Killings' megawatt smile all the way across room. My girlfriend had never even heard of Ron Killings before, and she loved the guy after that performance. There was one middle-aged woman in front of me that was so into Killings that I thought someone would have to follow her around with a squeegee.

 

On the other hand, the Bobby Roode/Eric Young match was the only dud of the night, and it wasn't Eric Young's fault. Young was definitely over with the crowd, but Roode was just a heat vacuum, killing the crowd with a dull offense, numerous rest holds, and cliched heel posturing.

 

So, why are they pushing Roode and dumping all over Ron Killings?

[Hunter's Torn Quad 0]

So, why are they pushing Roode and dumping all over Ron Killings?

Roode is close to Scott D'Amore.

[Guest netslob]

and he's white.

[FroGG_NeaL 0]

It's bullshit, Killings should have stayed near the main event/world title scene once he got there a couple of years ago.

[GODSON 0]

TNA can keep Killings for the next 3 years under contract if they want to. Killings just can't walk away like Brown.

[FroGG_NeaL 0]

Brown isn't officially gone.

 

I won't miss him if he is, though.

 

Killings should be in the title scene with Joe, Christian, Sting, and JJ.

[Star Ocean 3 0]

Killings should be in the title scene with Joe, Christian, Sting.