OAO Impact Thread - August/24th/2006.

[GODSON 0]

I heard Rhino will be feuding with Steiner real soon which make Christian available.

[Timmy8271 0]

The Abyss/Runt fued won't end for a while. They have to have the usual barb wire match.

[Bruce Blank 0]

"What do they do with Joe"?? Well damn a short while ago he was in a program with Steiner (hasn't been resolved) mixing it up with Jarrett, Sting & Christian and even has unfinished stuff with Sting (Walking out)

 

Yet all that's forgotten? All the momentum he had with that has been pissed away by just sidetracking him out of the blue?

 

*Sigh* tell me again that TNA is going to push him to the moon

[luke-o 0]

TNA is going to push him to the moon.

 

They should bring back the Joe/Steiner program, it had such an arubpt ending, and it had so much going for it.

 

A Joe/Cage program and Joe/Abyss would work well, but as someone stated, both cage and abyss are both in fueds.

[HollywoodSpikeJenkins 0]

What do the numbers on the back of the LAX shirt mean?

[AlaskanHero 0]

They explain it like, everytime they come on screen. The numbers are police code for mentally insane.

[Hawkius Maximus 0]

LAX is litterally, the best thing going in National American wrestling right now. It's hard to put my finger on it, but there's something just COOL about this incarnation of the group. On top of that, they make a good power & Speed team with brawling thrown in. Hernandez brings the big power moves, and Homicide finishes it off with his kickass moveset.

 

The big thing about the team, is TNA seems to realize they've got something. LAX has a personalized intro, which is one of the cooler fucking things in Wrestling right now, and they just gave them the tag titles. That No DQ tag match was very well done, with LAX in control most of the time but unable to finish off AJ & Daniels without Konnan's help, who absolutely owns as their mentor/manager. He was born to play a role like this.

 

The problem with this week's impact, was the crowd wasn't hot which is directly related to how much they tape in one day, the crowd just suffers burnout. On top of that, there wasn't anything really good beyond the Christian/Rhino encounter. Everything else was just...there. TNA needs to really work on that, because the first half of the show felt VERY dead.

 

Nice Sting promo though, gotta say that.

[razazteca 0]

What do the numbers on the back of the LAX shirt mean?

Its like the Chris Rock movie CB4 so LAX is from Cell Block 5051

[Timmy8271 0]

No the numbers i'm pretty sure are police code for insane.

[Jingus 0]

I'm not an LAX fan. A Homicide fan, sure. But Hernandez? Hell, the first time he ever appeared on TNA ppv (back in Nashville as part of "Jarrett's Army"), my exact words were "Goddammit, is that Hotstuff Hernandez? FUCK." He's a big clumsy steroid monster with a track record of injuring people and has to be carried like a big bloated backpack if you want a decent match out of him.

[Hunter's Torn Quad 0]

Impact did a 0.8

[CubbyBr 0]

Impact did a 0.8

 

What is it gonna finally take for this company to realize that what they're doing is simply not working and take a change in direction? Probably nothing short of Spike threatening to not renew the deal if ratings don't go up.

[GODSON 0]

Impact did a 0.8

 

What is it gonna finally take for this company to realize that what they're doing is simply not working and take a change in direction? Probably nothing short of Spike threatening to not renew the deal if ratings don't go up.

 

Nothing really going to make the ratings go up in my opinion. TNA try mostly everything so far. TNA and us fans just have to realize that TNA is only 4 years old and it will take time/years to build up a strong audience. How long it took for UFC to really blow up? UFC now averaging mid six figures for ppv buyrates.

 

Spike and TNA is actually talking about a 2 hour show which means Spike like TNA enough to keep them on tv for the next few years. TNA is still one of the highest rated cable shows(top 5) for it's timeslot among the 18-35 male demo. SPIKE is the men network afterall. Plus, TNA is cheap programming.

 

I personally think TNA should leave the traditional wrestling stuff alone,heel vs. face,storylines,etc. but that's a big RISK. I was thinking more of a promotion based on rankings and competition like boxing and MMA. Can the wrestling world handle something so drastic? Probably not, people complain when they see a random X division match on ppv.

[CubbyBr 0]

Impact did a 0.8

 

What is it gonna finally take for this company to realize that what they're doing is simply not working and take a change in direction? Probably nothing short of Spike threatening to not renew the deal if ratings don't go up.

 

Nothing really going to make the ratings go up in my opinion. TNA try mostly everything so far. TNA and us fans just have to realize that TNA is only 4 years old and it will take time/years to build up a strong audience. How long it took for UFC to really blow up? UFC now averaging mid six figures for ppv buyrates.

 

Spike and TNA is actually talking about a 2 hour show which means Spike like TNA enough to keep them on tv for the next few years. TNA is still one of the highest rated cable shows(top 5) for it's timeslot among the 18-35 male demo. SPIKE is the men network afterall. Plus, TNA is cheap programming.

 

I personally think TNA should leave the traditional wrestling stuff alone,heel vs. face,storylines,etc. but that's a big RISK. I was thinking more of a promotion based on rankings and competition like boxing and MMA. Can the wrestling world handle something so drastic? Probably not, people complain when they see a random X division match on ppv.

 

It just seems like they could be doing so much more to produce a jam-packed action-filled show yet we keep getting Slick Johnson/Earl Hebner skits, no Samoa Joe, and Jarrett overload.

[2GOLD 0]

Impact did a 0.8

 

What is it gonna finally take for this company to realize that what they're doing is simply not working and take a change in direction? Probably nothing short of Spike threatening to not renew the deal if ratings don't go up.

 

Nothing really going to make the ratings go up in my opinion. TNA try mostly everything so far. TNA and us fans just have to realize that TNA is only 4 years old and it will take time/years to build up a strong audience. How long it took for UFC to really blow up? UFC now averaging mid six figures for ppv buyrates.

 

Spike and TNA is actually talking about a 2 hour show which means Spike like TNA enough to keep them on tv for the next few years. TNA is still one of the highest rated cable shows(top 5) for it's timeslot among the 18-35 male demo. SPIKE is the men network afterall. Plus, TNA is cheap programming.

 

I personally think TNA should leave the traditional wrestling stuff alone,heel vs. face,storylines,etc. but that's a big RISK. I was thinking more of a promotion based on rankings and competition like boxing and MMA. Can the wrestling world handle something so drastic? Probably not, people complain when they see a random X division match on ppv.

 

 

They could follow through with stuff that happens on PPV instead of just forgetting it. Joe was supposed to get a title shot at BFG, why all of a sudden is Joe just not giving a damn that his shot has been taken away?

That is a huge problem I have with them. They set up these GREAT storylines, hold matches that should be meant to continue the feud but instead they just act like the feud is over.

 

They do an amazing job of setting up things and then they bobble the storylines when they are getting hot. It's annoying.

[KingPK 0]

Impact did a 0.8

 

What is it gonna finally take for this company to realize that what they're doing is simply not working and take a change in direction? Probably nothing short of Spike threatening to not renew the deal if ratings don't go up.

 

TNA just picked the absolute worst time to try and become a bigtime wrestling company. Overall, wrestling's popularity is probably the lowest it's been in quite a while; most people that still watch WWE programming are pretty much watching out of habit at this point. It certainly doesn't help when you turn to Impact and see that a guy that reached his peak popularity in the late 80's-mid 90's (Sting) feuding for the title with someone that casual fans either barely remember or don't buy as a world champion (Jarrett). They absolutely need to put the belt on Joe already and push the fuck out of him; that's really their only chance to draw any attention outside their base audience.

 

I watch TUF religiously, but I haven't watched a minute of Impact in months becuase there just isn't much to interest me. They desperately need to change that if they want to take advantage of the lead-in audience they have.

[GODSON 0]

They could follow through with stuff that happens on PPV instead of just forgetting it. Joe was supposed to get a title shot at BFG, why all of a sudden is Joe just not giving a damn that his shot has been taken away?

 

No he wasn't, I don't think that was ever in the plans. I think Sting vs. JJ been the plan BFG main event since January.

 

TNA just picked the absolute worst time to try and become a bigtime wrestling company. Overall, wrestling's popularity is probably the lowest it's been in quite a while; most people that still watch WWE programming are pretty much watching out of habit at this point. It certainly doesn't help when you turn to Impact and see that a guy that reached his peak popularity in the late 80's-mid 90's (Sting) feuding for the title with someone that casual fans either barely remember or don't buy as a world champion (Jarrett). They absolutely need to put the belt on Joe already and push the fuck out of him; that's really their only chance to draw any attention outside their base audience.

 

I don't even think putting the title on Joe will do the trick. It will have to take a drastic makeover with the ENTIRE product. That include everything from the wrestlers,matches, storylines,production, the look,getting out of Orlando,etc.

 

I watch TUF religiously, but I haven't watched a minute of Impact in months becuase there just isn't much to interest me. They desperately need to change that if they want to take advantage of the lead-in audience they have.

 

That is one of the reason why I think TNA should drop the traditional wrestling rules and just base their product solely on competition and 100% ring action. But that's a HUGE risk and eliminates TNA strongest stuff like Paparazzi or LAX.

 

Let's not forget that the reality tv element is what attract people. TUF get higher ratings than the other UFC show for that sole purpose.

[cabbageboy 0]

I actually really like the idea of a competitive rankings system. I think they still have to have storylines as well, but one aspect of old WCW I used to enjoy was the top 10. It gives a bunch of guys a purpose. The guys near the top of the rankings want title shots....the guys in the lower half of the top 10 want to win some matches to get into contention.

 

One problem TNA has right now is that they are pissing off their own fanbase. Nevermind garnering new fans, they need to keep the ones they have NOW. The whole Jarrett/Zbyzsko/Hebner storyline is the worst angle of the year, it makes no sense and it leads to another Jarrett push that nobody wants to see.

[USC Wuz Robbed! 0]

They could follow through with stuff that happens on PPV instead of just forgetting it. Joe was supposed to get a title shot at BFG, why all of a sudden is Joe just not giving a damn that his shot has been taken away?

That is a huge problem I have with them. They set up these GREAT storylines, hold matches that should be meant to continue the feud but instead they just act like the feud is over.

 

They do an amazing job of setting up things and then they bobble the storylines when they are getting hot. It's annoying.

 

In kayfabe, why would Joe be expecting a title shot? He didn't win the #1 contendership to it. Sting did.

[Hawkius Maximus 0]

I think the last few weeks of TNA has been really solid, Hebner stupidity aside.

 

I don't have a problem anymore with Jeff holding the title...It's not like he's being god-pushed like Hunter usually is when he's champ. Jeff's being pushed as completely unworthy who uses treachery and underhanded tactics to come out as champ. Fuck, Jay Lethal nearly beat him.

 

The biggest problem is TNA doesn't capitalize on momentium, in that way they are alot like WWE. Difference is WWE can get away with it due to their massive market share. TNA should be having Joe absolutely march through the roster every week, he should be beating someone in a match. Same thing with Senshi, and they should be pushing Sabin & Lethal as the two top faces of the X Division for matches against Senshi. They MAY be wising up, because they've latched onto LAX who have considerable momentium, and are pushing them exactly like how they should be pushed.

 

If TNA showed more consistantly, and was good every week they'd be fine. Problem is, TNA has went through weeks of bad shows, which then make the good shows have lesser ratings. You could do the best episode ever, you won't get good ratings for it, but for the next few weeks. TNA needs to remember that and go in that direction.

 

And for GODS SAKE, stop taping more then two shows a week. The crowd SUCKS after the second hour, and makes the TV show look like shit.

[gWIL 0]

Great show this week.

 

LAX looked very strong and the match gave off a real gang beatdown vibe. Who do they face at BFG? Daniels and Styles again? Team 3D? The James Gang? The Naturals?

 

The Cage/Rhino angle was great.

 

I'm starting to be okay with Jarrett vs Sting, although it should just be a Loser Leaves Town match. Maybe Jarrett drops the title at No Surrender to Joe who faces Rhino or Cage. I could dig Joe vs Rhino for the title in Rhino's hometown. But what does Cage do?

 

TNA is easily the best hour of wrestling on TV.

[Star Ocean 3 0]

The Naturals should turn on Shane, and go heel, joining Bobby Roode's manager.

[razazteca 0]

Before the Naturals got Franchised they were the team that lost to AMW every 3 weeks. At least with Shane Douglas they have something to do other than get handcuffed or hit by a beer bottle by AMW. As for Bobby Roode's manager I think TNA is one step away from WWE creative logic and will make Scotty D'Amore the manager.

[Star Ocean 3 0]

It's Southern California Valerie.

[luke-o 0]

It had better be someone good, but it will end up being D'Amore