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[bob_barron 0]

The three feuds are still ongoing, 6-man tags are usually solid hot matches, so why not book it as a semi-main?

[Scroby 0]

The three feuds are still ongoing, 6-man tags are usually solid hot matches, so why not book it as a semi-main?

Because its pretty much the same match and reasoning of the 6 way tag match last week. Each person in the match was going to face each other at the PPV.

 

Cena vs Edge

Carlito vs Orton

Trish vs Lita

 

Except they just removed Lita and Trish and put Nitro and Hardy into it. So the reasoning for this 6 man is that each man is involved in the PPV some way or another. We have...

 

Cena vs Edge

Carlito vs Orton

Hardy vs Nitro

 

Same excat reason as last week, same excat booking, but just two differant people. Doing basically the same match two weeks in a row is not logical booking. Maybe if they spaced it out a bit, but not the following week.

[DrVenkman PhD 0]

barron is right, Scroby is wrong.

 

Scrob's argument is basically "they booked a a potentially good match based on last week's good match and swapped one of the feuds involved for the last Raw to build for this Sunday's PPV? Outrageous and lazy!". Must never have played EWR.

 

Anyway, an update on my battle with Cogeco showing the right 24/7 programs: WWE now has a disclaimer on their schedule stating the schedule "may vary by cable carrier".

[Mole 0]

I need some sign ideas for Raw this Monday.

 

One of them is going to be the basic CM Punk with his logo thingy. But I need 3 or so more.

[Scroby 0]

"I Miss WCW"

[claydude14 0]

Someone think of a witty sign having to do with Stephanie comparing the 9/11 attacks to the "goverment" attacking the WWE over steroids in the early 90s.

[BorneAgain 0]

I have to believe someone there will have a "I Miss Hassan" equivalent.

 

For me "How's the pay, Orton?" would be fine.

 

I am curious if "No airplane spins tonight?" would get in or not.

[Mole 0]

I was thinking of a Randy Orton checklist:

 

Rape a Girl

Fail a Drug Test Twice

[Scroby 0]

The three feuds are still ongoing, 6-man tags are usually solid hot matches, so why not book it as a semi-main?

Because its pretty much the same match and reasoning of the 6 way tag match last week. Each person in the match was going to face each other at the PPV.

 

Cena vs Edge

Carlito vs Orton

Trish vs Lita

 

Except they just removed Lita and Trish and put Nitro and Hardy into it. So the reasoning for this 6 man is that each man is involved in the PPV some way or another. We have...

 

Cena vs Edge

Carlito vs Orton

Hardy vs Nitro

 

Same excat reason as last week, same excat booking, but just two differant people. Doing basically the same match two weeks in a row is not logical booking. Maybe if they spaced it out a bit, but not the following week.

I'm sorry Bob, I actually thought Unforgiven was two weeks away, not this Sunday. Thats why I was saying the 6 man should be held off till next Monday. Do it the week before the PPV, but thats before that I just found out the PPV is this Sunday.

[foleyfanforever88 0]

I had a great dream last night. For some reason Cena came out at the start of Raw and turned heel in a promo. Vince came out and said he was tired of the Cena/Edge crap and was gonna suspend both of them but Cena said something else so Vince fired him. The main event became Carlito vs CM Punk for the WWE Title. Punk won.

[Guest Diablo_Dor]

Something has been bothering me in regards the whole WWE Films division.

How would it not be easy as all hell to make loads of money in this enterprise? they could stick any number of their Diva bints into some action movie with lots of soft core porn moments and plenty of people would love to check them out. And they don't even have to give Hugh Hefner a cut!!

 

Hell if they told me that Kimber from Nip/Tuck was gonna get naked I'd pay money to see that bloody Cena movie.

 

Thats what bugs me, the WWF became successful by marketing towards the "College kid" Demographic (Ok Stone cold was the "blue collar dollar" but I'm talking Attitude here) and there's no-way Kanes movie could have been marketed towards kids so why no embrace the whole she-bang and give us Trish topless all night long!! Throw in Cena getting punched in the balls for 90 minutes and I guarantee $$$$

[Hawk 34 0]

WWE has made money off the movies (so far). The movies are tremendously low budget and thanks to domestic sales in addition to overall international sales (adding in DVD sales). With a built-in marketing campaign within their regular programming, costs for these movies aren’t hard to cover.

 

See No Evil, had a (estimated) budget of only $8 million. It grossed nearly twice that amount and that’s not counting eventful DVD sales.

 

The Marine's budget was twice the amount of See No Evil, which means there is a greater importance on that movie because Kane's movie was essentially a trial run for WWE Films. Also, it's important that John Cena does at least modestly because Kane was pushed as a freak in a generic horror movie, that wasn't a hard sell. John Cena, is being asked to be a leading man action hero.

 

It does have tough competition in Man Of The Year (Robin Williams, Christopher Walken and Lewis Black) and The Grudge 2(sequel to hit movie)

[Black Lushus 0]

while The Marine won't have earth shattering numbers, I'm sure it will do surprisingly well I.E. it will cover the budget and then some.

[Canadian Brandon 0]

Funny article about the WWE vs. NFL "monday night war" that is approaching. From ESPN:

 

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story...mp;lid=tab4pos1

[RedJed 0]

I'm not convinced Marine is going to do any numbers close to See No Evil - more than anything for these reasons.

 

1) Cena is not a household name by any means and they are using his name/drawing power to promote the film whereas See No Evil was just a horror film with nobody pushed above anyone else for names. By that same token, in this action film genre, I think the importance of a drawing name to the film is more important than the horror genre due to horror having a pretty specific fanbase that doesnt go to see a certain star really versus just a film concept, etc. They're taking a shot in the dark using his name to draw people to this film. He's not anywhere as familiar of a name to the masses as a Rock, Austin, or Hogan. On another side note, the more WWE pushes this on TV, the less interested I get the more I see what the film is all about, clips, etc.

 

2) The film's trailers do not showcase anything unique or worthwhile to even check this out whatsoever. I liked the first trailer a bit but now, as I said before, the more I have seen additionally, the more I am not feeling it at all.

 

3) I'm also very skeptical how much advertising they will put into this, giving it even less of a chance to succeed. If they only do the same advertising budget as See No Evil, its pretty much fucked. If they do more, thats great but it still goes back to the first two points and how those will play into this release.

 

4) Hawk's point about the competition. Both those films will likely go over this one, not to mention there is other films (especially in the horror genre) that will be out that month (Saw and TCM) that will really overpower the top spots likely.

[MarvinisaLunatic 0]

I have to believe someone there will have a "I Miss Hassan" equivalent.

 

For me "How's the pay, Orton?" would be fine.

 

I am curious if "No airplane spins tonight?" would get in or not.

 

I think Eugene should do an airplane spin although I wonder if he'll even have a match..

[Downhome 0]

From PWInsider:

 

-Two ECW workers have failed the wellness policy. The first guy is Ryan O'Reilly, who has been teaming with Derrick Neikirk on ECW house shows. This happened last week, and he immediately dropped the Deep South Title, and he'll be out for 30 days. Because of thise, Derrick Neikirk will still be working, but in singles.

 

-The second guy to be busted is Balls Mahoney. They say that, just like Randy Orton, they will still use Balls on TV if they want, but just like Orton he will not be paid. They didn't say, but I'd guess that it is for typical 30 days also.

 

-Tank Abbot has been signed to the Jakks Pacific WWE Classics Superstar line.

[Dobbs 3K 0]

My issue with WWE Films is this...Let's say "The Marine" is a success, and John Cena becomes a successful actor (maybe not even after this film, but one or two movies later). Eventually, he'll leave WWE just like the Rock did, and again WWE will be without a top babyface who is marketable. It just seems like sacrificing the future of the "wrestling" side of WWE's business for some short term gains in their film division. I guess it probably makes WWE look better to investors, though.

[2GOLD 0]

Tank Abbot has been signed to the Jakks Pacific WWE Classics Superstar line

 

Well that makes perfect...huh?

[Downhome 0]

From PWInsider:

 

-There is a lot of heat on Justin Credible right now. Either this past week, or the week before, he simply did not show up for ECW TV, not even a phone call. You could compare this situation to the entire Axl Rotten deal from earlier this year.

 

He sure as hell better have a good reason for doing this. He was in a fantastic position in ECW if you ask me, and in my opinion he was doing a pretty good job.

[Downhome 0]

From PWInsider:

 

-Sean Waltman is not in talks with WWE about coming in right now, even though he was at a recent show as an invited guest. He is signed to a Wrestling Society X contract, and that prevents him for coming back to WWE. However, the contract does not prevent him from working non-televised events. He can show up at house shows and dark matches, but if they want him to come back they'd have to strike a deal with WSX.

[Guest Hotbutter Spoontoaster]

The WON reports that WWE management has recently soured on Smackdown's Dave Batista.

 

The company feels that since returning from injury, Batista has been weaker in terms of both star quality and in-ring performance. It assigned Finlay to work with Batista on television in the hopes of getting the wrestler back over with the fans.

 

Batista's recent fade appears to back the notion that his initial surge to the top of WWE was very much thanks to Triple H's carrying.

[Scroby 0]

Tank Abbot has been signed to the Jakks Pacific WWE Classics Superstar line

 

Well that makes perfect...huh?

Ditto

[Downhome 0]

The WON reports that WWE management has recently soured on Smackdown's Dave Batista.

 

The company feels that since returning from injury, Batista has been weaker in terms of both star quality and in-ring performance. It assigned Finlay to work with Batista on television in the hopes of getting the wrestler back over with the fans.

 

Batista's recent fade appears to back the notion that his initial surge to the top of WWE was very much thanks to Triple H's carrying.

 

Oh that news puts a big smile on my face. I just hope that they don't end up hurting Finlay, both in terms of his status as well as physically, in the process of trying to get Batista back to where he once was. Batista has taken the place of John Cena on my list of most hated workers right now. He's either right above or under Randy Orton now.

[strummer 0]

The WON reports that WWE management has recently soured on Smackdown's Dave Batista.

 

The company feels that since returning from injury, Batista has been weaker in terms of both star quality and in-ring performance. It assigned Finlay to work with Batista on television in the hopes of getting the wrestler back over with the fans.

 

Batista's recent fade appears to back the notion that his initial surge to the top of WWE was very much thanks to Triple H's carrying.

 

 

More on this

 

Internally, several WWE people believe that Batista's "star" is starting to fade. It has been said that Batista hasn't been himself since his return to Smackdown. He is slower on his feet, not to mention more tentative and less confident. The reason Mr. Kennedy got the U.S. Title from Finlay is because they were worried that Batista was losing steam. WWE felt as though that Finlay is best used to help get someone over, and now he will feud with Batista in an attempt to help get him back on track to carry the brand. Right now, the company stance is that Batista's fade just proves how great Triple H is, because he got Batista over. Also, the company is now moving towards a Kennedy vs. Lashley U.S. title program.

[Downhome 0]

Well, HHH did help get Batista over, and he did it in a huge way. Didn't he job to Batista about three different times in high profile matches. A WM match, as well as a Cell match, and maybe something else that I'm forgetting about. Then, since the HHH feud, what has the guy really done that was of note?

 

-Batista/JBL was just shit, and I don't blame JBL for that either. JBL had solid brawls with a number of guys, but when he was put in there with Batista it was just horrible. One of the worst feuds, including the matches, this decade.

 

-He had a program with Eddie that was just meh as well if you ask me.

 

-Then we had the the Batista/Rey love affair, and the feud with Mark Henry. Not to mention that while all of that was going on, he was hurt anyway.

 

-Then he was out until June or so, and since then he's been very blah. He had his thing with Henry, then Henry got hurt. The mini-feud with Ken Kennedy, and then the Booker T deal. Then in the middle of all of that he had the horrible showing in ECW with The Big Show.

 

Since his feud with HHH, he hasn't done anything that says to me that he deserves to be where he is. Sure, a lot of it has to do with the booking/writing, but his matches have been horrible more often than not. Since his return from injury he seems to be trying to play it safe so that he doesn't get hurt again, but he's playing it saft to the extent where it's really seriously hurting the quality of his matches. Add in to all of that how he acted when the fans booed him and all of that, and there are plenty of reasons to have heat on the guy.

 

Look at someone like John Cena. Sure, many fans still hate him and dislike him, but you can tell that Cena works hard in his matches, and he goes with the flow with the boos and uses his head. I'm not a huge fan of Cena, but still, he's a world different than Batista right now in many different ways.

[Guest droptoehold]

Batista is the type of guy that would be used well w/ a manager

or part of a group (evolution). Less mic time the better.

 

time for creative to be creative

[MixxMaster 0]

Don't Call Me The Rock

 

Action man DWAYNE JOHNSON is keen to drop his 'THE ROCK' tagline that he won during his days as a pro-wrestler. Johnson was known simply as THE ROCK in his first movie roles, but now he feels he deserves the respect of his peers and critics alike, and wants to be known by his full name. He explains, "From now on please call me Dwayne Johnson. I want to be known as Dwayne Johnson the actor, and not The Rock. "I loved The Rock; The Rock was a nickname but what's happened is it's naturally progressed into Dwayne 'The Rock' Johnson. When it becomes just Dwayne Johnson, as it will in the next movie Southland Tales, that's fine. "I never wanted to make that defining statement. It just didn't feel right to me."

[humongous2002 0]

The thing is WWE can't just put a mulclebound/ pretty boy/smark darling of the week in a main event position and expect all the fans to agree with it, there has only been a few wrestlers to actually become actual WWE main eventers (like Hart, HHH, HBK, Cena, Mankind, Taker, Angle) and only 3 of them to become huge moneymokers (Hogan, Austin, Rock), all of them have a lot of respect and love for the business. All these OVW guys (except for Cena) with a lot of hype have been nothing more than a waste of valuable tv time.

[Guest Arnold_OldSchool]

Tank Abbot has been signed to the Jakks Pacific WWE Classics Superstar line.

 

*pre-orders*