BorneAgain 0 Report post Posted September 14, 2006 1 John Cena 2 Kurt Angle 3 Edge 4 Samoa Joe 5 Mistico 6 Rey Mysterio Jr. 7 Brock Lesnar 8 Kenta Kobashi 9 Shawn Michaels 10 Jeff Jarrett 11 Taiyo Kea 12 Christian Cage 13 AJ Styles 14 Satoshi Kojima 15 Christopher Daniels 16 Bryan Danielson 17 Perro Aguayo Jr. 18 Rob Van Dam 19 King Booker 20 Jun Akiyama 21 Triple H 22 Ultimo Guerrero 23 Batista 24 Ric Flair 25 Kensuke Sasaki 26 Sting 27 Carlito 28 Dr. Wagner Jr. 29 Chris Benoit 30 Randy Orton 31 Tiger Mask IV 32 El Hijo Del Santo 33 Hiroyoshi Tenzan 34 Atlantis 35 CM Punk 36 KENTA 37 Shelton Benjamin 38 Abyss 39 Rey Bucanero 40 Jushin Liger 41 Mark Henry 42 Rhino 43 Hiroshi Tanahashi 44 Big Show 45 Dos Caras Jr 46 Chris Harris 47 Nigel McGuinness 48 Averno 49 Katsuhiko Nakajima 50 Kane 51 Bobby Lashley 52 Keiji Muto 53 James Storm 54 Mephisto 55 Kaz Hayashi 56 CIMA 57 Naomichi Marufuji 58 Black Warrior 59 Undertaker 60 Takeshi Rikio 61 Austin Aries 62 Hector Garza 63 Roderick Strong 64 John Bradshaw Layfield 65 Tarzan Boy 66 Masa Chono 67 Colt Cabana 68 Genichiro Tenryu 69 Doug Williams 70 Shocker 71 Milano Collection A.T. 72 Johnny Nitro 73 Brother Devon 74 Tokyo Magnum 75 L.A. 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Open the Muggy Gate 0 Report post Posted September 14, 2006 Milano is at 321 and 71. The fuck? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BorneAgain 0 Report post Posted September 14, 2006 Milano is at 321 and 71. The fuck? Its likely an error from the original source, Pro Wrestling Guerrilla website. I'd have to see the issue to correct it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Youth N Asia 0 Report post Posted September 14, 2006 The PWI 500 is the laziest list ever put together. Seems like every year tag teams are listed within 10 of each other. They randomly place someone sonewhere then remember to add the guy they're teaming with 479 Vito Thomaselli 483 Sal Thomaselli 228 Kid Kash 231 Jamie Noble 73 Brother Devon 76 Brother Ray 61 Austin Aries 63 Roderick Strong 46 Chris Harris 53 James Storm And this year they weren't as bad about it as they've been in the past. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FroGG_NeaL 0 Report post Posted September 14, 2006 Why the fuck is Lesnar in the top 10? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JHawk 0 Report post Posted September 14, 2006 August-July, right? So Cena, kayfabe-wise, is a viable number one despite sucking. Angle number 2? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hunter's Torn Quad 0 Report post Posted September 14, 2006 Milano is at 321 and 71. The fuck? I think they've mixed up Milano Collection A.T with Milanito Collection A.T, who is a smaller version of Milano. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pochorenella 0 Report post Posted September 14, 2006 9 Shawn Michaels Shawn was totally awesome in 2005 so I'm happy with this ranking, although I'm not sure about the time period used for criteria. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Flang Report post Posted September 14, 2006 Milano is at 321 and 71. The fuck? Its likely an error from the original source, Pro Wrestling Guerrilla website. I'd have to see the issue to correct it. Yep, it's Milanito Collection A.T. in 321. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
razazteca 0 Report post Posted September 15, 2006 84 Mr. Aguila I cannot believe Mr. Aguila is ranked this high! Just 2 weeks ago on the CMLL at Arena Coliseo on FSN-espanol show Mr. Aguila was sloppy as hell in a match where Mistico had to take what seemed like 2 minutes to call out the spots and Mr. Aguila still stood at the ropes not knowing when or where to bump. Mr. Aguila is by far the weakest member of Perros del Mal. Damian 666 & Halloween > Mr. Aguila!!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EVIL~! alkeiper 0 Report post Posted September 15, 2006 The PWI 500 is a kayfabed list for the most part. It makes the assumption that wrestling is a real sport and ranks wrestlers based on in-ring accomplishments. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hasbeen1 0 Report post Posted September 15, 2006 It's too top-heavy with foreign wrestlers, or those who wrestle primarily in other countries. Around 50 in the top 100, only around 10 in the bottom 100. They should do separate lists, in kayfabe rankings there's no way to compare especially the Japanese. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
razazteca 0 Report post Posted September 15, 2006 I think its funny that Mistico is one spot above Rey Mysterio. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hasbeen1 0 Report post Posted September 15, 2006 I looked at the American companies only, thought it was interesting the top 10 had 5 TNA and 5 WWE (all 3 brands). Top 50 was 27-17 WWE to TNA. It does point out there is some talent in TNA, now if the company as a whole could just get its act together. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
UseTheSledgehammerUh 0 Report post Posted September 15, 2006 The rankings of CHIKARA wrestlers is absurd. STING - #26. Hahahaha. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GODSON 0 Report post Posted September 15, 2006 I looked at the American companies only, thought it was interesting the top 10 had 5 TNA and 5 WWE (all 3 brands). Top 50 was 27-17 WWE to TNA. It does point out there is some talent in TNA, now if the company as a whole could just get its act together. TNA only have 2 in the top 10. Instead of getting mad, people should go out and buy the magazine. The PWI 500 is always a great issue and a must for every wrestling fan. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Annabelle 0 Report post Posted September 15, 2006 The PWI 500 is a kayfabed list for the most part. It makes the assumption that wrestling is a real sport and ranks wrestlers based on in-ring accomplishments. but one year malenko was #1. which year was this? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cabbageboy 0 Report post Posted September 15, 2006 I'm still not sure why Malenko was #1 in 1997. He really didn't have much in terms of accomplishments that year aside from maybe a US title reign of little note. That year has an odd 500. I mean UT was #6 in it behind DDP and Lex Luger. What the fuck did either of them do in 1997? Luger had a 1 week title reign but that's about all he did. DDP didn't win anything in terms of titles that year until Starrcade, which wouldn't be in the grading period. Meanwhile Bret Hart was only #20, though I guess he was inactive from June 1996 till Nov. 1996. One that angered me was 1999, when Austin beat out RVD for #1 (RVD was #2). I mean what more did RVD have to do? He didn't lose a singles match during that entire June 98-June 99 period. Austin lost to Kane during that period, also UT a few times, Mankind, hell I think he even lost to Vince and Shane. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hasbeen1 0 Report post Posted September 15, 2006 I looked at the American companies only, thought it was interesting the top 10 had 5 TNA and 5 WWE (all 3 brands). Top 50 was 27-17 WWE to TNA. It does point out there is some talent in TNA, now if the company as a whole could just get its act together. TNA only have 2 in the top 10. Instead of getting mad, people should go out and buy the magazine. The PWI 500 is always a great issue and a must for every wrestling fan. Top 10 primarily or completely wrestling in the U.S. 1 John Cena 2 Kurt Angle 3 Edge 4 Samoa Joe 6 Rey Mysterio Jr. 9 Shawn Michaels 10 Jeff Jarrett 12 Christian Cage 13 AJ Styles 15 Christopher Daniels Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hasbeen1 0 Report post Posted September 15, 2006 I'm still not sure why Malenko was #1 in 1997. He really didn't have much in terms of accomplishments that year aside from maybe a US title reign of little note. That year has an odd 500. I mean UT was #6 in it behind DDP and Lex Luger. What the fuck did either of them do in 1997? Luger had a 1 week title reign but that's about all he did. DDP didn't win anything in terms of titles that year until Starrcade, which wouldn't be in the grading period. Meanwhile Bret Hart was only #20, though I guess he was inactive from June 1996 till Nov. 1996. One that angered me was 1999, when Austin beat out RVD for #1 (RVD was #2). I mean what more did RVD have to do? He didn't lose a singles match during that entire June 98-June 99 period. Austin lost to Kane during that period, also UT a few times, Mankind, hell I think he even lost to Vince and Shane. I think in some issues they tried to even out the top 10 to 25 or so with around the same number from WWF and WCW. I think they said things were equal with around 5 the year Malenko got it so they gave to the most skilled wrestler. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pochorenella 0 Report post Posted September 15, 2006 I'm still not sure why Malenko was #1 in 1997. He really didn't have much in terms of accomplishments that year aside from maybe a US title reign of little note. That year has an odd 500. I mean UT was #6 in it behind DDP and Lex Luger. What the fuck did either of them do in 1997? Luger had a 1 week title reign but that's about all he did. DDP didn't win anything in terms of titles that year until Starrcade, which wouldn't be in the grading period. Meanwhile Bret Hart was only #20, though I guess he was inactive from June 1996 till Nov. 1996. One that angered me was 1999, when Austin beat out RVD for #1 (RVD was #2). I mean what more did RVD have to do? He didn't lose a singles match during that entire June 98-June 99 period. Austin lost to Kane during that period, also UT a few times, Mankind, hell I think he even lost to Vince and Shane. I think in some issues they tried to even out the top 10 to 25 or so with around the same number from WWF and WCW. I think they said things were equal with around 5 the year Malenko got it so they gave to the most skilled wrestler. You are correct. I still have that PWI issue somewhere, and I remember they said they had to change their criteria just this once because they felt there was no absolute, clear-cut winner for that year, so instead they gave the nod to the wrestler they felt was the best and most skilled in the world. IIRC Misawa was ranked #2 that time beacuse they also said they felt it wasn't appropiate to give the top spot to a wrestler who didn't compete within the US. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Black Lushus 0 Report post Posted September 15, 2006 hasn't it already been established in the past that these PWI lists are rubbish? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
razazteca 0 Report post Posted September 15, 2006 Milano is at 321 and 71. The fuck? 321 is the mascot/midget hense the "ito" at the end of the name. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hasbeen1 0 Report post Posted September 15, 2006 hasn't it already been established in the past that these PWI lists are rubbish? I wouldn't say rubbish. They do give some perspective on how a wrestler was pushed during a year, and give some updates on ones who may have left a particular area. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GODSON 0 Report post Posted September 15, 2006 In 1997 Malenko was rank number 1 but Luger actually won their wrestler of the year award. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pochorenella 0 Report post Posted September 15, 2006 In 1997 Malenko was rank number 1 but Luger actually won their wrestler of the year award. Yes, that was terrible. Luger winning was no doubt fixed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cheech Tremendous 0 Report post Posted September 15, 2006 In 1997 Malenko was rank number 1 but Luger actually won their wrestler of the year award. Yes, that was terrible. Luger winning was no doubt fixed. As opposed to their other awards, which are all legitimate, right? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jebus 0 Report post Posted September 16, 2006 Looks like I'm gonna be the Luger defender here...how the hell did Luger do NOTHING in 1997? He was no doubt the top "active" face WCW had that year. Leading the troops vs. the nWo and a great win-loss record against them. Definetely one of the most successful wrestlers of that year IMO...(lot of injuries that year though) until losing the title back to Hogan after which, yeah, he did nothing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cabbageboy 0 Report post Posted September 16, 2006 Yeah but winning fucking WOTY in 1997? I mean come on, there was no one in WCW who should have won it. Hogan was mostly an inactive champion, and I guess Luger got a lame duck 1 week run but that's about it. I can see that vote being legit in some ways, since WCW was much more popular in 1997 and thus would have more viewers and voters. Some of this stuff was utterly retarded though, like DDP/Macho winning Feud of the Year over Bret/Austin. By the way, I think UT should have been Wrestler of the Year in 1997. He held the title from WM till SS that year, and after that was in the first HIAC. He tailed off in the later months of 97, but the previous stuff was possibly his peak as a worker and in terms of overness. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pochorenella 0 Report post Posted September 17, 2006 In 1997 Malenko was rank number 1 but Luger actually won their wrestler of the year award Yes, that was terrible. Luger winning was no doubt fixed. As opposed to their other awards, which are all legitimate, right? Well, I wouldn't go so far as to say that, I was just stating my opinion. Ric Flair winning so many WOTY awards back in the 80's over Hulk Hogan was clearly a sign of fixed results IMO, because they were during the height of Hulkamania, so to speak. It could very well be PWI's clear bias over WCW. Hell, The Giant winning WOTY over Shawn Michaels back in 1996 had me angry like you wouldn't believe. But I could see where some results could've been legitimate. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites