Edwin MacPhisto 0 Report post Posted October 6, 2006 "Born to Run" is an awful song, though. Maybe I don't like Springsteen. I'm with you on the ills of the Springsteen cultural construct, but can't back you up on this one. Great, great song. Indulgent? Sure. But rarely do you find a song that matches up the tensions between being dead-broke and hopeful as well as this one. I don't really like Springsteen all that much either, but love just about that whole album. It can sound prophetically dumb when you realize that this same wide-eyed enthusiasm led to drizzling shit like The Rising, but take it out of that context and I find "Born to Run" really hard not to like. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Felonies! Report post Posted October 6, 2006 Come on, as if "wrap your legs around these velvet rims and put your arms across my engines" isn't a real groaner? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Edwin MacPhisto 0 Report post Posted October 6, 2006 Sure, especially out of context. It works much better in the overblown, hammy Jersey poet feel of that song and the album as a whole. But even given that, I'm not listening to the song for that line or any lyric in particular so much as I am for the overblown epic quality of it all, and the fact that the transition out of the bridge with its 8 billion instruments still makes me wanna pump my fist. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Felonies! Report post Posted October 6, 2006 Personally, I find the glockenspiel out of place in what's ostensibly a blue-collar kind of album. Nothing very proletarian about a glockenspiel. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
snuffbox 0 Report post Posted October 6, 2006 Do you dislike Thunder Road as well, Czech? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Felonies! Report post Posted October 6, 2006 It's okay. It's not as bombastic. Sounds like he's really affecting a twang at time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Special K 0 Report post Posted October 6, 2006 Well, unfortunately I think Brandon's box is still intact. At least when your child asks you how high the sky is you can say with confidence: "about 200 feet." I find their music just derivative and painfully emotive and achingly, laughably sincere. (probably has a lot to do with Flowers') voice which I hate. Mr. Brightside sounds like the world's biggest sad-sack trying to make his own "Born Slippy." I mean, Springsteen had some of the same qualities, but at least many of his songs had upbeat, fun music. I mean "Born in the USA" was catchy enough that people had no clue it was not a patriotic anthem. I don't mind a band is somewhat over the top or bombastic. I mean Muse's "Knights of Cydonia" is my favorite song on the radio now. It sounds like Queen showed up in the middle of a Sergio Leone movie. And from what I saw of them in concert, they take themselves quite seriously. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
foleyfanforever88 0 Report post Posted October 6, 2006 Why is it a big deal what they look like? Who the hell cares? All that should matter is their music. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Felonies! Report post Posted October 6, 2006 Why is it a big deal what they look like? Who the hell cares? All that should matter is their music. That does not help their case, foleyfanforever88. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Annabelle 0 Report post Posted October 7, 2006 fuck felonies. you sometimes replace your ears with hipster cynicism. born to run is about as amazing of a pop song there is. i don't like springsteens rootsy mr. americana bob dylan-lite schtick, but this song is everything dylan is not. i don't think springsteen has ever been more fun. its a dance song. when you ivories being tinkled in the opening you want to find your gal & fucking dance with her. eventually you're going to have to remember that music is supposed to be fun, and constantly worrying about the lyrical content will only bog yourself down. i've listened to that line 50 times & i've never thought of how corny it sounds. i won't disagree, but fuck if care. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Annabelle 0 Report post Posted October 7, 2006 most ridiculous looking band ever. look at them Since ridiculous is par for the course in black metal imagery. thats rock n' roll Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Agent of Oblivion Report post Posted October 7, 2006 Maybe, but saying the band of dorks depicted in this thread are the most ridiculous looking is hyperbole, dude. They could walk out of the local grocery store and no one would flinch. Rockin'? No. Ridiculous? No. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Agent of Oblivion Report post Posted October 7, 2006 For the record, I find "Born to Run" almost as annoying as "American Pie." The only massive classic rock/pop musician(s) I dislike more than Springsteen are the Eagles. Unless Jimmy Buffet counts, then he's number one. At any rate, I think Bruce's vocals are all-time levels of bad. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Annabelle 0 Report post Posted October 7, 2006 Maybe, but saying the band of dorks depicted in this thread are the most ridiculous looking is hyperbole, dude. They could walk out of the local grocery store and no one would flinch. Rockin'? No. Ridiculous? No. i guess. their costumes are just very unbecoming of them. and if i saw half hipster/half cowboys with awful moustaches and afros walk out of the local grocery store i'd certainly laugh. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Agent of Oblivion Report post Posted October 7, 2006 All four of them in a row? I would too. One or two of them? Nah. They look like hoosiers with money. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
snuffbox 0 Report post Posted October 7, 2006 A friend of mine once told me that he can't tell the difference between Bruce Springsteen and Johnny Cougar. I no longer speak of music with that friend. Anyone else find the 'door is open but the ride aint free' lyric from Thunder Road a bit creepy? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Edwin MacPhisto 0 Report post Posted October 7, 2006 EXCEPT ROLL DOWN THE WINDOW AND LET THE WIND BLOW BACK YOUR HAAAAAIR is almost as good as the exit from the bridge in "Born to Run." And yes, snuffy, that is a little weird. I always kinda chuckle at both that and the "you ain't a beauty, but hey, you're all right" line. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Felonies! Report post Posted October 7, 2006 Man, I just don't know when to be an elitist and when to be a faux-populist. Life is hard. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
spiny norman 0 Report post Posted October 7, 2006 I think I'm the only person to love every album Springsteen's released, bar Human Touch. And even that has the great title track, so as far as an artist's world album ever goes, it's a pretty good one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Annabelle 0 Report post Posted October 8, 2006 Man, I just don't know when to be an elitist and when to be a faux-populist. Life is hard. you can still recover Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
benn 0 Report post Posted October 9, 2006 I like The Killers and I like this album. Fuck if I know where the Springsteen comparisons are coming from though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Henry Spencer 0 Report post Posted October 9, 2006 Have you ever heard a Springsteen song before? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
benn 0 Report post Posted October 9, 2006 Of course I have, I just don't think these songs really sound like them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
C Dubya 04 0 Report post Posted October 9, 2006 I think I'm the only person to love every album Springsteen's released, bar Human Touch. And even that has the great title track, so as far as an artist's world album ever goes, it's a pretty good one. Just you and everyone who lives in Jersey or vacations "down the shore". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Special K 0 Report post Posted October 9, 2006 its a dance song. when you ivories being tinkled in the opening you want to find your gal & fucking dance with her. eventually you're going to have to remember that music is supposed to be fun, and constantly worrying about the lyrical content will only bog yourself down. i've listened to that line 50 times & i've never thought of how corny it sounds. i won't disagree, but fuck if care. I don't necessarily disagree about this particular song, but you can make this argument about any cheesy 80's pop song. You could say the same thing about Bon Jovi or Def Leppard but they still suck. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Felonies! Report post Posted October 9, 2006 It's hard to tell when you're supposed to idiosyncratically embrace bad music. For me, it's dance music from the mid-90s. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
snuffbox 0 Report post Posted October 9, 2006 Don't a bunch of posters here like that radiopoop from the 70s/80s like Foreigner and REO Speedwagon? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Special K 0 Report post Posted October 9, 2006 A lot of it probably is what parents/older siblings exposed you to as a kid. We listened to stuff like Zepellin, Credence, Pink Floyd and the Animals. A few more esoteric bands like Talking Heads Kraftwerk, and the Cramps. So I'll always have an affection for those bands, even if I don't actively listen to most of them that often. It wasn't until my teens that I started getting into more 80's bands, because my impression was it was all cock rock. Lastly, one Springsteen Song that always cracks me up is "Dancing in the Dark." It would be a good 80's pop song, it's just his voice sounds so wrong in it. I don't think Springsteen was meant for 'peppy.' Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Annabelle 0 Report post Posted October 9, 2006 its a dance song. when you ivories being tinkled in the opening you want to find your gal & fucking dance with her. eventually you're going to have to remember that music is supposed to be fun, and constantly worrying about the lyrical content will only bog yourself down. i've listened to that line 50 times & i've never thought of how corny it sounds. i won't disagree, but fuck if care. I don't necessarily disagree about this particular song, but you can make this argument about any cheesy 80's pop song. You could say the same thing about Bon Jovi or Def Leppard but they still suck. i don't think either has released anything nearly as brilliant born to run (the song). or even close. but i'm sure there's others like springsteen where great songs have come from usually bad/boring artists. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Anorak 0 Report post Posted October 11, 2006 I think I'm the only person to love every album Springsteen's released, bar Human Touch. And even that has the great title track, so as far as an artist's world album ever goes, it's a pretty good one. Count me in as well. I've always thought the run up to Born In the USA was pretty faultless. Nebraska is a personal favourite of mine and everything bar Human Touch that followed i've found to be worth my time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites