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I've never had a theater pop so much for a fucking movie. The Dark Knight trailer they played before this actually got a round of applause and even some people stood up for it. Then they were killed off by The Spirit trailer but not for long as they got right into Iron Man and so did I.

 

Downey was perfect for this, and this movie fucking rocked.

 

And pretty much everyone stayed after the credits, and I've never quite heard a reaction like the one where Samuel L. Jackson reveals himself. I hope this comes together, because so far.... it's off to such a promising start.

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I was so bummed. On the way to the cinema my friend started telling me the Sam L. rumours and shit he had heard. I don't think i'll forgive him as it was definatly a "fuck yeah!" moment.

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Nick Fury, Agent of S.H.I.E.L.D. starring Samuel L. Jackson would be fucking awesome...as long as John Singelton doesn't direct it.

 

Has anyone fallen off as a director as much as that guy has?

 

Holy hell, Iron Man is at 95% on Rotten Tomatoes! Here's their list of best reviewed super-hero movies:

 

Iron Man (2008) -- 95 percent

Spider-Man 2 (2004) -- 93 percent

Superman: The Movie (1978) -- 93 percent

Spider-Man (2002) -- 90 percent

X2: X-Men United (2003) -- 87 percent

Batman Begins (2005) -- 84 percent

X-Men (2000) -- 80 percent

Hellboy (2004) -- 79 percent

Superman Returns (2006) -- 77 percent

 

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Nick Fury, Agent of S.H.I.E.L.D. starring Samuel L. Jackson would be fucking awesome...as long as John Singelton doesn't direct it.

 

Has anyone fallen off as a director as much as that guy has?

 

Holy hell, Iron Man is at 95% on Rotten Tomatoes! Here's their list of best reviewed super-hero movies:

 

Iron Man (2008) -- 95 percent

Spider-Man 2 (2004) -- 93 percent

Superman: The Movie (1978) -- 93 percent

Spider-Man (2002) -- 90 percent

X2: X-Men United (2003) -- 87 percent

Batman Begins (2005) -- 84 percent

X-Men (2000) -- 80 percent

Hellboy (2004) -- 79 percent

Superman Returns (2006) -- 77 percent

 

 

Jon Favreau said he would like to direct The Avengers.

 

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Iron Man (2008) -- 95 percent

Spider-Man 2 (2004) -- 93 percent

Superman: The Movie (1978) -- 93 percent

Spider-Man (2002) -- 90 percent

X2: X-Men United (2003) -- 87 percent

Batman Begins (2005) -- 84 percent

X-Men (2000) -- 80 percent

Hellboy (2004) -- 79 percent

Superman Returns (2006) -- 77 percent

 

I think that's a fair assessment although I would rank Batman Begins over X-Men 2.

 

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Of those I would rank X-Men 2 and Batman Begins as the best. I'm sorry but after Spider-Man 3 I can't help but think the previous movies have almost been hurt by the revisions in the storyline.

 

As far as Superman, hell I don't think the first one is even as good as Superman II.

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Superman II was light-years better than the first movie, and the first movie was pretty good.

 

The first X-Men movie was dead equal with the second movie.

 

I'm going to the last showing on Sunday night.

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The fact that Batman Begins is so low on that list, and that Superman II isn't even on the list, shows how the critics really don't know what a good movie is.

 

Seriously, X2 better than Batman Begins? It was good, but BB is a masterpiece of a comic-book movie. Come on, people.

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The fact that Batman Begins is so low on that list, and that Superman II isn't even on the list, shows how the critics really don't know what a good movie is.

 

Seriously, X2 better than Batman Begins? It was good, but BB is a masterpiece of a comic-book movie. Come on, people.

They revised that list on rottentomatoes.com, with Superman II below X2 with 87%.

 

And yes, seriously, X2 is better than Batman Begins.

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Hooooooooooooooly shit. I just got back from seeing it. I read a ton of comics as a kid, but never Iron Man, so my knowledge was limited. That was one of the best superhero movies I have ever seen, perhaps topped only by Batman Begins. It raped so hard.

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I saw the movie earlier today, and really enjoyed it. I don't know if I want to say it was one of the best comic movies I've seen but it was one of the better ones. I really have nothing to complain about but I didn't leave the movie saying to myself "I want to see it again!", but that could be because I've never been a big Iron Man fan. I did mark out for what happens after the credits.

 

Random Question: Is Marvel modeling the characters look from the Marvel Ultimate line?

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I saw the movie earlier today, and really enjoyed it. I don't know if I want to say it was one of the best comic movies I've seen but it was one of the better ones. I really have nothing to complain about but I didn't leave the movie saying to myself "I want to see it again!", but that could be because I've never been a big Iron Man fan. I did mark out for what happens after the credits.

 

Random Question: Is Marvel modeling the characters look from the Marvel Ultimate line?

 

 

If I remember correctly, they modeled the new Nick Fury after Samuel L. Jackson.

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I saw the movie earlier today, and really enjoyed it. I don't know if I want to say it was one of the best comic movies I've seen but it was one of the better ones. I really have nothing to complain about but I didn't leave the movie saying to myself "I want to see it again!", but that could be because I've never been a big Iron Man fan. I did mark out for what happens after the credits.

 

Random Question: Is Marvel modeling the characters look from the Marvel Ultimate line?

No.

 

Certain characters have been. Simply because it's more practical, like the X-Men. But in the case of Iron Man for example, it's the original. He looks nothing like his Ultimate counterpart.

 

But I saw this last night, and holy shit, coming from someone who's not really a Tony Stark fan in the comics, I loved this movie. Robert Downey Jr. was Tony Stark. That simple. It'll be hard to try and picture anyone else as him IMO. Visually it looked amazing, and there was a very nice mix of CGI/suit. I know I came out of the movie thinking, damn, I would love to live like that. That house was awesome. (Although he'd be fucked in an earthquake.) And the whole Microsoft year 5000 computers, awesome.

 

It was sort of a WTF moment when they introduced Jarvis, but it grew on me during the movie, and I really liked it. As well as the others. Really enjoyed the comedy in it as well. Especially some of the cutoff scenes involving Rhodes. "What? I'm not drinking now!/cut to drunken stupor."

 

Overall great movie, and because of the comic book geek in me I'm sure it'll probably be one of my top movies of the year. Behind Batman though of course.

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It's up there with Batman Begins.

 

All the scenes where he was building and testing out the suit were great. Paltrow did well as Pepper Potts. Great direction. You know who after the credits drew a big pop from the audience I was in, and name dropping S.H.I.E.L.D was also pretty cool. Everyone also loved when Rhodes looked over at the possible War Machine suit and said that he'll use it for next time. I liked how Obadiah Stane named dropped Iron Monger in a conversation with Tony Stark in the middle of the movie. Downey Jr. was great as Tony Stark (including funny bits where he doesn't remember any of the girls he slept with). I also liked the progression in building the suit, with a believable time frame.

 

I'd go watch it again but I don't want to spend another 11 bucks.

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There was only one comic book character I could really get into and I'm so glad this movie ended up being good. I had fears of this being like Daredevil, and I will no longer doubt Favreau's talents as a director.

 

Bridges was awesome too. He didn't become to over the top like I expected, and added this underlying creepiness I never expected from him.

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According to boxofficemojo, the movie did approximately $32.5 million on friday ($38 million if you count thursday showings.) This could be a $90-$100 million opening weekend for Iron Man. Terrific news.

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I found this on another board. It's a list of deleted and altered scenes.

 

Last night I checked out the Iron Man movie. It is just as fantastic as it was meant to be, but that’s just my initial reaction. We’ll see how I feel in a couple days. Ah, hell. I’ll still probably love it.

 

About a month back, I read through Peter David’s novelization, so I got the gist of how good this would be. Like Spider-Man 3, it was based on an earlier or fuller version of the movie before scenes got cut or, in the case of this movie, replaced. Spider-Man 3 was about character-building scenes getting cut for the sake of time and allowing more focus on Mary Jane’s constant whining. With Iron Man, most of the scenes were cut for time, or in other cases, to totally fuck over Terrance Howard as Jim Rhodes. The poor guy gets devoured by editing. According to interviews, in return for their involvement in the film, the Air Force insisted on having control of the character and refused some of his character actions. That explains that.

 

It’s also worth noting that director Favreau was into improvisation, which does alter a couple scenes here and there on the dialogue side of things..

 

This is going to be filled with spoilers, so if you haven’t seen the movie and don’t want to know about the scene where Titanium Man beats up an army of ballerinas, go make yourself a sandwich. Or go see the movie. You’d be glad you did.

 

- Even though Rhodes is in the same vehicle as Stark in the opening drive through Afghanistan, they are still traveling in the same group. When the ambush happens, Rhodes is at the scene fighting back and telling Tony to stay down. Although he isn’t successful in saving Tony, due to the hit-and-run aspect of the terrorist attack, Rhodes isn’t killed.

 

- During the gambling sequence there’s a separate part where Tony takes three million dollars he has accumulated over the night and bets it on black in roulette despite Rhodes’ gut feeling that he should go with red. The casino employee taking care of the table is afraid that it’s too high of a bet, but his superior gives him the okay. Other gamblers go with Tony’s instincts, but Rhodes was right and Tony loses the three million. Tony, Rhodes and Hogan leave together after that.

 

- When reporter Christine Everhart wakes up and runs into JARVIS, Pepper explains to her that JARVIS stands for “Just A Really Very Intelligent System”. When Christine leaves with her laundry in hand, Pepper informs her to pull down the back of her shirt, which was riding up and showing a little more of Christine’s backside than she would have wanted. Less about Christine being a bitch to Pepper and more about Pepper owning the scene.

 

- With Tony and Rhodes drunk on the plane, there’s a bit where they get into a bit of an argument over how predictable Rhodes is when inebriated and how he seems to rant about the same topics over and over again. Rhodes gets fed up and says he’d rather be in the company of the plane’s pilot, especially since he’s impressed with the pilot’s skill. Tony invites Rhodes to go hang out with the pilot, seeing as how they have the same personality anyway. Rhodes goes into the cockpit and finds the plane being piloted by some kind of robot/computer thing. Angry at the insinuation, he storms back to Tony and says, “That’s funny.”

 

Acting shocked, Tony responds, “You can tell?”

 

- The cave section of the movie got a lot of stuff cut, which I suppose isn’t so much of a bad thing. While that part of the movie wasn’t bad, it definitely shouldn’t have been any longer. We see more of Yinsen here, showing that despite his situation, he insists on shaving regularly and cleaning his clothes because looking like an animal is one step away from acting like one. When Tony initially refuses to build the Jericho missile, it’s because Yinsen has told him to. Then Yinsen yells at him for refusing as a way to get in the good graces of the terrorists.

 

There’s more stuff about fooling the terrorists, especially the ones on surveillance. When asking for parts for the missile, Tony asks for a washing machine. Other than the comedy factor, nothing is done with this. At one point the heavier terrorist stops in and picks up his laundry, as done by Yinsen.

 

Another thing is a bit of a subplot relating to a Mets watch one of the soldiers from the opening scene was wearing. Tony notices that one of the terrorists has stolen the watch from the kid. It’s the same guy who accidentally shoots himself in the head. After that happens, Iron Man just stomps down on the guy’s wrist and destroys the watch. I doubt this was actually filmed.

 

They aren’t outright referred to as the Ten Rings, but their flag is described as ten rings linked together.

 

- Rhodes is told by his superiors not to handle the situation with Tony’s disappearance himself, especially when more time passes. When speaking to Pepper on the phone about Tony’s whereabouts, she acts extremely emotional about it.

 

Later on, Happy Hogan comes to Rhodes and asks him to do more about finding Tony. Rhodes asks if Pepper asked Happy to confront him like this, to which Happy says yes and no. Pepper didn’t give any orders, but she’s so broken up about this whole situation that Happy felt he needed to do something. This hints at the Happy/Pepper relationship. Leave it to Favreau to drop his only real scene from the movie.

 

- Upon discovering Tony in the desert, Rhodes freaks out over the chest device and thinks it’s a bomb. Before Rhodes can try and take it apart, Tony tells him to stop. It’s not a bomb, but a reminder.

 

- When asking for a cheeseburger and a press conference, Tony also mentions that he wants a hot blond. This ties into another cut moment from the party where Pepper lets Tony know that she is not a cheeseburger.

 

- There is a scene about Tony going over the specs for the new chest piece with JARVIS, but nothing is lost from its absence.

 

- Tony and Pepper giving Agent Coulson the slip happens a lot more often to the point that it’s an annoying running gag. Usually one of the two is in the middle of a major situation and have to just toss him aside for later.

 

- During the Mark II testing, there is no ice build-up scene. Iron Man gets so lost in himself while flying upwards that JARVIS steps in and shuts off his power for his own good. Probably better that they changed it.

 

- As Stane visits Tony with a box of pizza, the tone is very different. There is no tension and the two seem to get along very well. There’s a definite fatherly vibe from Stane, who champions most of Tony’s ideas. Tony brings up his meeting with Rhodes – the one where he outright refused to help him and instead tried to push him back towards weapon-making – and Stane sides with Tony. He even mentions that Jim Rhodes is “part of the war machine”.

 

In this scene there is a part where Stane pours a scotch for each of them. Tony hesitates and then decides to refuse, surprising Stane.

 

- During the Air Force vs. Iron Man sequence, Tony doesn’t tell Rhodes over the phone that it’s him. Instead, Rhodes figures it out himself. When he does so, he lets out a huge yell of, “Son of a bitch!” which gets the confused attention of those around him.

 

- Here is the biggest change in the movie. An entire chunk of it was changed over, most likely due to the Air Force’s say so. It starts with the part where Tony starts using his repulsors on everything in his workshop while in a rage over the Ten Rings’ shenanigans. Pepper comes in, obviously mad at being stood up at the party, but Tony pays that no mind. He tells her to throw a party and his beach house ASAP. Pepper devolves back into assistant mode and prepares it, though confused at his actions.

 

This party is where the Ghostface Killa cameo was meant to happen. He plays a tycoon who meets Tony and says, “Tony, you never said – what’s the big occasion?”

 

“Ever known me to need one?”

 

The tycoon laughs it off and Tony moves on. He gets together with a couple drunk women and brings them to his room. He tells them to get started without him and sneaks off with his briefcase. He unpacks the armor and flies off, all while the guests are distracted by a fireworks display.

 

The next couple segments are more or less the same until the Air Force situation.

 

After Iron Man saves the pilot and releases his parachute, the remaining plane is still ordered to go after him. It succeeds in nailing him with a missile. Iron Man somehow escapes and barely gets back home alive.

 

Pepper has not only found no sign of the boss, but the two women he was with say he never joined them. Pepper searches the grounds for Tony, but finds nothing. She drifts off for a bit, only to be awakened by a huge crash. She runs upstairs and finds Iron Man in a chair, burnt and dented to all hell with the helmet off. Tony’s bleeding, holding a glass of alcohol in his hand and shaking so much that the liquid can barely stay in the glass. Before passing out, he pleads with Pepper for help.

 

Rhodes goes to see if Tony is okay, leading to some major tension between he and Pepper. They blame each other for what happened, including a line where Pepper tells Rhodes, “You want to see him? Fine. See what you’ve done to him.”

 

When Rhodes does see Tony, he tells him that he’s figured out he’s Iron Man, but he understands what he was trying to do. They have a heart-to-heart talk, where Tony apologizes for never thanking him for saving his life. Rhodes adds that he’s saved his life twice.

 

Tony recuperates and we get the scene where he asks Pepper to go on his hacking mission. Her refusal due to fear Tony might kill himself is more appreciated in this version of the story, considering how close he really did come to it.

 

I suppose this was all taken out because the Air Force wasn’t in love with the idea of being deemed antagonists that blindly go after a popular hero. In fact, that later scene of Rhodes convincing them not to interfere in the Iron Man vs. Iron Monger fight, thereby redeeming them for attacking in the first place, doesn’t exist here.

 

- When Raza, the terrorist with the burned face, meets up with Stane, there are more allusions to the Mandarin.

 

“You paid us trinkets to kill a prince. An insult to me, and the man whose ring I wear.”

 

“I think it’s best we don’t get him involved in this.”

 

After paralyzing Raza, Stane then removes his ring and pockets it for himself. There is no follow-up to this.

 

- A flashback is depicted of Pepper meeting Tony for the first time. She was a secretary or something of the sort that noticed the numbers were off on a project. When telling her boss, she was told she was wrong by default. Pushing the subject got her fired, so she stormed into Tony’s office and yelled about how his numbers were screwy. Security came in to remove her and she warned them, quite unconvincingly, that she had pepper spray.

 

Tony reviewed her claims and found that he did in fact screw up. He called off his guards and apologized to the fired secretary. He rehired her as his personal assistant, since she’s such a horrible liar and wouldn’t simply kiss up to him on a constant basis. He gave her the nickname Pepper, due to her comical pepper spray threat. I highly doubt this was even meant to be filmed in the first place, considering the placement in the story is really suspect.

 

- There’s a plot hole in the movie that you may have noticed. Pepper leaves Stane’s office and hooks up with Agent Coulson. By the time she gets around to calling Tony, something REALLY important and urgent, Stane has had enough time to drive to his home and sneak in.

 

That’s because in the original version, Coulson isn’t as friendly. He forcibly confronts her, sick of being ignored for so long. SHIELD doesn’t know about Tony Stark’s superhero escapades. They believe that the terrorists may have brainwashed him, which is why he’s so out of character since coming back. Pepper has the SHIELD guys go through the downloaded information she stole from Stane to convince them, then finally gets a chance to give Tony a call. She isn’t very happy with Coulson and SHIELD, knowing that by tying her up with all of this, Stane was able to attack Tony.

 

- The scene where Stane yells at the one engineer for not being able to make the Iron Monger armor fully operational is cut off in the movie. Once Stane gets the idea to steal Tony’s chest device, he calms down and becomes the faux nice guy we’ve seen for the first 2/3 of the movie. He tells the worker to go home and that there would be no worries.

 

- Stane paralyzing Tony isn’t so much of a ninja sneak attack like it is in the movie. Stane comes to Tony’s place with another pizza and tries to talk things over with him. He gives his resignation, admitting that it isn’t his company to run. When Pepper tries to call, Stane convinces him to deal with that later, as their conversation is far more important. He asks for Tony’s blessing and handshake so that they can leave on good terms, only to use his paralyzing device on him.

 

- The War Machine blue balls scene is different. Once Iron Man flies off, Rhodes picks up the Mark II helmet and tries to put it on. It doesn’t fit, causing him to mutter, “Damn,” and instead go for the car. Not nearly as badass as what we got in the movie.

 

- The fight with Iron Monger has its differences. When he holds the station wagon over his head, Iron Man tells him that this is between the two of them. Innocents shouldn’t get involved.

 

Stane responds, “People are always going to die, Tony. Part of the chess game.”

 

Since there was no ice build-up scene earlier, there’s no callback to it. Here, it’s Rhodey who temporarily saves the day. He drives Tony’s car into Iron Monger’s leg at full speed, which somehow causes Iron Monger to accidentally blow up a bus. The explosion makes it seem for the moment that Iron Monger is destroyed.

 

Iron Man is angry at Rhodes for destroying his prized car while Rhodes is angry at the lack of a “thank you”.

 

When the generator knocks out the power to the Iron Monger armor, Stane doesn’t immediately fall to his death. He gets enough time for last words.

 

“I guess this is a draw. The genie is out of the bottle. We’ve done our part. We’ve brought a great gift to the world and now it is time to go. That is the law of nature, Tony.”

 

The roof gives way and Stane dies. Iron Man responds, “And that is the law of gravity.”

 

- Speaking of the generator, that is one of the better changes. In the movie, it’s used mainly as a last resort weapon to destroy Iron Monger. That’s cool.

 

In the book, the generator is busted up and it’s going to explode, taking out the surrounding city. Pepper has to disarm it with Tony’s directions. Rather than fight Iron Monger, Iron Man is more trying to just get him out of the way so he can save everyone from the big explosion. The big column of light that defeats Iron Monger is simply a side-effect of Pepper pressing the red button at the right time. That’s lame.

 

- At my job, we received three different Iron Man novelizations. There’s the regular version that I read, a teen version and a kids version. Out of curiosity, I read the latter two’s final scenes. Instead of the press conference, they both end with the final meeting between Tony and Pepper. Since Pepper’s already told off Tony for standing her up at the party, she brings up that night as the time she made a brief error in judgment that will never happen again. When she leaves, Tony smirks, as if to say, “Yeah, right.”

 

The Peter David version is different here, having Tony feeling regretful and depressed after she leaves. Take that as you will.

 

That’s about it, from what my memory churns out. How is it that Iron Man makes for one of the better live action superhero movies and Invincible Iron Man is one of the worst animated superhero movies? Maybe that’s an article for another day.

 

Speaking of other articles for other days, I suppose I’ll probably be doing this same thing with the Incredible Hulk novelization. Considering how much political yammering was going on with that production, I’m sure there’ll probably be about 50 pages worth of changes for me to talk about.

 

Oh yeah, remember the Iron Man cartoon?

 

Season 1 intro

 

Season 2 Intro

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I wish they kept this part:

 

- When Raza, the terrorist with the burned face, meets up with Stane, there are more allusions to the Mandarin.

 

“You paid us trinkets to kill a prince. An insult to me, and the man whose ring I wear.”

 

“I think it’s best we don’t get him involved in this.”

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According to boxofficemojo, the movie did approximately $32.5 million on friday ($38 million if you count thursday showings.) This could be a $90-$100 million opening weekend for Iron Man. Terrific news.

 

It's over $100 million. Honestly, I didn't expect the movie to make that much as Iron Man never really seemed to be a popular character when it comes to the general public.

 

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Well, I saw the movie and I'm happy to say that the $6 that I payed to see it was well worth it.

 

I marked out for:

- the Ghostface Killah (of Wu tang Clam fame) video that Stark and Rhodes play in the plane while drunk

- Iron Man's first apperance in the red/gold costume against the terrorists

- the Stan Lee cameo

- the War Machine tease

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and not to mention the Nick Fury cameo at the end of the film setting up a possibly bigger movie.

 

I just enjoyed the entire fim. So many moments.

 

Everyone - Favreau, Paltrow, Bridges, Howard and especially Downey brought their A game to this movie and Marvel/the entire cast and crew of this film should be proud.

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Just saw it tonight, and I got to say- that was one of the best superhero origin movie ever. Just aperfect movie all around, and now I can't wait for a sequel- or something bigger?

 

And as a bonus, I got to see trailers for the three other movies I wanted to see this summer- Hulk, Dark Knight, and Indy.

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Great movie, kick ass, bring on Iron Man 2, etc. The theater I saw this in was packed and people were clapping and cheering during the action scenes. I'd never seen a reaction like that.

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To plagiarize myself from another board:

 

The movie was really helped by the cast. Downey, as noted, and Jeff Bridges saving his character. Bald with a beard is a good look for him.

I think there wasn't enough of Iron Man being a total badass, which he can be, and too much of him getting his ass kicked in the Robocop 2 finale.

 

Still, I'll buy it (though you may not be able to tell from my postings, I am a pretty serious comic geek), and I think any sequels should be better.

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Marvel Studios Sets Four More Release Dates!

Source: Marvel Entertainment

May 5, 2008

 

 

Marvel Entertainment released their first quarter report to its shareholders this morning to coincide with the announcement about the success this past weekend of Marvel Studios' first production Iron Man, which grossed an estimated $104.2 million domestically and over $201 million worldwide. The announcement included an update of Marvel Studios' feature film slate with the already-rumored Iron Man 2 announced for a release on April 30, 2010, followed by three more movies for the summers of '10 and '11. Matthew Vaughn's Thor is set for a release on June 4, 2010, and The First Avenger: Captain America (the working title) will kick off the summer of 2011 on May 6, followed by the highly-anticipated and foreshadowed The Avengers scheduled for July 2011. (Edgar Wright's Ant-Man is also listed as being in development with no release date set.)

 

In a conference call this morning, Marvel Studios' David Maisel said that Iron Man 2 will be used to introduce Thor. Regarding more "Hulk" movies, Maisel said "We definitely plan on continuing." He added that development continues on Spider-Man 4. "I can't give any other updates other than to say it's in development and everybody's excited about 'Spider-Man 4,'" he said.

 

With that in mind, one can start expecting a lot more announcements in the coming months about creative teams and casting for those movies including who might direct the Captain America and Avengers movies. (Whomever plays Steve Rogers AKA Captain America presumably will be making two movies at once.)

 

Awesome.

 

I hope they don't use that as the title for the Captain America movie. It's incorrect.

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