Art Sandusky Posted January 2, 2007 Report Posted January 2, 2007 Oh, and Snuffy needs to get over the SEC hype. It's warranted. Every mofo in this thread will eat their words when Florida beats Ohio State. Like how Arkansas beat Wisco? Or how Tennessee beat unranked Penn St? Besides the Big East, has any conference gone undefeated this bowl season so far? I could bring up Minnesota choking away a 31 point second half lead or Purdue accomplishing jack-all against the unstoppable force of the Maryland Terrapins or Michigan making anyone who wanted them in the title game hide their faces, but that'd be ludicrous. I mean, Wisconsin beat Arkansas by three and Penn State was more than happy to help Tennessee beat itself. Surely a triad of competitive losses (Alabama went down on a last-second field goal) is more humiliating for a conference than a triad of losses that made you wonder what the teams were doing there in the first place. That statement doesn't include Michigan, since they deserved a trip to the Rose Bowl even if they blew the national good will towards them.
Slayer Posted January 2, 2007 Report Posted January 2, 2007 Michigan making anyone who wanted them in the title game hide their faces I initially read this as "hide their feces" ... Carry on
snuffbox Posted January 2, 2007 Report Posted January 2, 2007 Minnesota & Purdue are the jobbers of the conference. When the best teams match up we are seeing what happens. And we'll see how your prediction pans out re: Florida-Ohio St.
cabbageboy Posted January 2, 2007 Report Posted January 2, 2007 Well, stuff like Wisconsin vs. Arkansas are just "eh" matchups that could go either way. I'm not sure why ARK was favored in that game considering they had lost 3 games and Wisconsin had lost 1. I don't think conferences matter as much as the matchups. The Big East is currently unbeaten in bowl action since the BE has had some jobber matchups. Anyone with a brain knew USF would smack East Carolina, and while I picked Kansas St. over Rutgers in the bowl thread out of spite I figured Rutgers would likely win. WVU/GT was a bit closer than I expected. I don't get all the Cinderella talk about Boise. In 2004 Boise was 11-0 going into the Liberty Bowl vs. U of L in the matchup of teams screwed out of the BCS. U of L barely won it 44-40 in an insane game. Truth be told, that U of L team is a lot better than this OU team, so I'm a bit baffled as to why OU was such a favorite.
ANKLELOCK Posted January 2, 2007 Report Posted January 2, 2007 How can anybody doubt that the SEC is the best conference, year in and year out? It's as close to accepted fact as something like that could get. They got fucking nine teams into bowls and the worst of those handled the ACC's second best team. And the Big Ten didn't even get a win in bowl until yesterday.
cabbageboy Posted January 2, 2007 Report Posted January 2, 2007 Who is that worst SEC team that beat the 2nd best from the ACC? Do you mean UGA over VT? I assume it was UK and Clemson you meant but 1) UK wasn't the worst bowl team in the SEC, since they finished 3rd in the East and 2) Clemson only finished 8-4 and wasn't in any way the 2nd best team in the ACC.
Art Sandusky Posted January 2, 2007 Report Posted January 2, 2007 Yes, he means Georgia over Virginia Tech.
Guest Princess Leena Posted January 3, 2007 Report Posted January 3, 2007 When I hear whatever that announcer guy is, I think XFL. Or other various peon sports.
iggymcfly Posted January 3, 2007 Report Posted January 3, 2007 The second best team in the ACC lost by 4 to the second best team from the Big East. I don't care who had the better ranking, Georgia Tech went 7-1 in the ACC during the regular season (the best record in the conference) and lost in the title game. They were the runner up. Virginia Tech would be 3rd and they lost to the 6th best team from the SEC in Georgia. Clemson was the 5th best team in the ACC and they lost to the 7th place SEC team in Kentucky. Also, the worst SEC bowl team would be Alabama and they lost to Oklahoma State. No one's trying to say the ACC's better than the SEC, the SEC is likely the best conference in the country top to bottom. However, the gap between them and the other conferences is much smaller than a lot of people would like to suggest. Saying that the 9th best SEC team beat the 2nd best SEC team is just ridiculous.
snuffbox Posted January 3, 2007 Report Posted January 3, 2007 When I hear whatever that announcer guy is, I think XFL. Or other various peon sports. I like Matt Vasgersian.
Guest "Go, Mordecai!" Posted January 3, 2007 Report Posted January 3, 2007 Vasgersian was doing Brewers games on television for a while, wasn't he?
MarvinisaLunatic Posted January 3, 2007 Report Posted January 3, 2007 The second best team in the ACC lost by 4 to the second best team from the Big East. I don't care who had the better ranking, Georgia Tech went 7-1 in the ACC during the regular season (the best record in the conference) and lost in the title game. They were the runner up. Virginia Tech would be 3rd and they lost to the 6th best team from the SEC in Georgia. Clemson was the 5th best team in the ACC and they lost to the 7th place SEC team in Kentucky. Also, the worst SEC bowl team would be Alabama and they lost to Oklahoma State. No one's trying to say the ACC's better than the SEC, the SEC is likely the best conference in the country top to bottom. However, the gap between them and the other conferences is much smaller than a lot of people would like to suggest. Saying that the 9th best SEC team beat the 2nd best SEC team is just ridiculous. Maryland was #4 in the ACC and they won their bowl game vs Purdue. Nothing to brag about or anything really..
snuffbox Posted January 3, 2007 Report Posted January 3, 2007 Vasgersian was doing Brewers games on television for a while, wasn't he? Yep. His catchphrase was "Good night now!"
USC Wuz Robbed! Posted January 3, 2007 Report Posted January 3, 2007 Who cares which conference is better. It's about the teams themselves as Boise State would prove.
Guest Princess Leena Posted January 3, 2007 Report Posted January 3, 2007 And if Boise played Oklahoma in the regular season, they'd lose at least 90% of the time. Bowls take a lot more things into account. A huge part is motivation. That's why using them to compare conferences is pointless.
CanadianChris Posted January 3, 2007 Report Posted January 3, 2007 I always remember Vasgersian as the host of Sports Geniuses.
Guest Princess Leena Posted January 3, 2007 Report Posted January 3, 2007 I vaguely remember that show. I miss good sports trivia shows. Stump the Schwab doesn't count as one of those.
CanadianChris Posted January 3, 2007 Report Posted January 3, 2007 Stump the Schwab would be OK if they got rid of Schwab. And Stu Scott.
MarvinisaLunatic Posted January 3, 2007 Report Posted January 3, 2007 Louisville pulls a play out of Boise States playbook and scores a TD. Hasnt been a bad game but far from what I expected..
MarvinisaLunatic Posted January 3, 2007 Report Posted January 3, 2007 LOL @ the "JACK BAUER SUPPORTS WAKE FOREST!" sign
Edwin MacPhisto Posted January 3, 2007 Report Posted January 3, 2007 Yeah, Wake just got served. I might not watch the second half, just because I'm totally footballed out after last night.
iggymcfly Posted January 3, 2007 Report Posted January 3, 2007 And if Boise played Oklahoma in the regular season, they'd lose at least 90% of the time. Bowls take a lot more things into account. A huge part is motivation. That's why using them to compare conferences is pointless. They'd probably lose, but only because they'd have to play in Norman. And it still wouldn't be 90% of the time. I bet Oklahoma would lose 90% of the time if they had to travel to Boise and play on the blue field in the cold though. The fact is (ignoring the site) Boise State would actually have a better chance in a regular season game than in a bowl game since they'd be extra motivated, treating it as one of their biggest games of the season, while to Oklahoma, it would take a backseat to conference play. With weeks to prepare on either side in a BCS game is about the only situation where you could get an even contest between Boise State and Oklahoma. If you think the Sooners weren't motivated last night to prove themselves against a Top Ten opponent in the Fiesta Bowl, you're crazy. As for the Orange Bowl, like some others here, I didn't bet it and I'm not watching it. I didn't see much of an edge to take either side given the spread, and I really do need a day off after the craziness that was the Fiesta Bowl last night. I was already starting to think that I was burned out on football a little bit yesterday, as after watching Georgia Tech play, I fell asleep during the Rose Bowl and was fairly bored through most of the first half in Glendale. Then, we had the craziest finish in college football history, and while that was a great experience, I'm really not feeling Louisville/Wake tonight. LSU's my biggest bet of the year, so I'll be into the Sugar Bowl, and I'll be into Florida/Ohio State because it's for the championship, but I'm just taking a break tonight.
Urban Warfare Posted January 3, 2007 Report Posted January 3, 2007 Great pass by Skinner, tie game in Miami.
MarvinisaLunatic Posted January 3, 2007 Report Posted January 3, 2007 As a whole, I dont think this game stacks up at all to last night, but the finish might be right there with last nights game if they keep going and end up deciding the game under RETARTED OH-TEE RULZ!
TheDevilAndGodAreRagingInsideMe Posted January 3, 2007 Report Posted January 3, 2007 LOL @ the "JACK BAUER SUPPORTS WAKE FOREST!" sign No I don't.
Art Sandusky Posted January 3, 2007 Report Posted January 3, 2007 I fell asleep for about 9/10ths of this game. Come on Wake, let's have a miracle here.
MFer Posted January 3, 2007 Report Posted January 3, 2007 *waiting for cabbageboy to go off on a tangent about how Louisville blew it by losing to Rutgers and how he will never forgive the Scarlet Knights for pulling the upset.*
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