All PPVs Returning to Multi-Brand Format

[sluggo 0]

I actually liked the month off between PPV on Raw and SD ( for the last couple of years)

 

If Raw was having a PPV that week, SD would have a great match on TV (i.e. Angle/Lesner Iron Man match)

 

and same for Raw if SD had a PPV that week

 

WWE failed at giving the main event of the next ppv and build up when the other brand had a PPV. Usually we got 2-3 weeks of rematches from the previous PPV.

 

Now with PPVs only 3-4 weeks apart, this is going to kill any storyline driven matches and we're going to see the same situation with the Angle/Cena storyline. 10 matches in a 1 month span between the same guys.

[Cheech Tremendous 0]

Given that the brand split is still going, maybe they don't need to necessarily cut back down to 12, just not have so many. Like, have the big 5 (Rumble, WM, Survivor Series, Summerslam, and I'm blanking on what the other one is) in addition to the monthly shows.

 

There is no way they cut even one of these shows. The PPVs still turn a profit. There is no way they are going to cut off a revenue stream in favor of giving more time to build a show. If anything, they're likely to add shows in the coming years to offset losses they might experience in other avenues of the company. As long as those shows make even a $1 of profit, there is incentive to keep doing them.

[The Niggardly King 0]

Fuck, this means more stuff like Lashley/Kennedy... that helps no one.

[King Cucaracha 0]

Hopefully the brand split will be ending soon after...

 

So you'd like to see 30 people get fired.......then see Triple H, HBK, Batista, Cena and a few others dominant the air time for every show huh?

 

I'm sorry I can't take 5 hours of Triple H every week.

 

As opposed to now, where the main stars end up going over to the other shows anyway. And they just fired 10-15 workers from ECW a couple of months ago anyway?

[haVoc 0]

They really don't need to drop the Tuesday night brand. They need to change the ECW name and finally make it a WWE brand. No reason to keep it ECW since Vince flushed everything ECW is known for.

 

Plus, people will give it more of a chance. "Casual" fans will accept it because it's a WWE brand and we might even be less critical if we weren't comparing it to the ECW of old.

[Guest panthermatt7]

Hopefully the brand split will be ending soon after...

 

So you'd like to see 30 people get fired.......then see Triple H, HBK, Batista, Cena and a few others dominant the air time for every show huh?

 

I'm sorry I can't take 5 hours of Triple H every week.

I'm sorry but I can't take 3 hours of WWE programming pushing second rate "stars" who are clearly not ready for prime time.

 

I have never agreed more. Generally speaking, the average fan does not care about people they haven't heard of. I would prefer for RAW and Smackdown to end their split, with a separate roster on ECW. Then, maybe ECW could be more than Heat, and some actual talented midcarders could resurrect the show's watchability.......

 

Just think, no Test or Hardcore Holly in the main event.

[foleyfanforever88 0]

Hopefully the brand split will be ending soon after...

 

So you'd like to see 30 people get fired.......then see Triple H, HBK, Batista, Cena and a few others dominant the air time for every show huh?

 

I'm sorry I can't take 5 hours of Triple H every week.

I'm sorry but I can't take 3 hours of WWE programming pushing second rate "stars" who are clearly not ready for prime time.

 

I have never agreed more. Generally speaking, the average fan does not care about people they haven't heard of. I would prefer for RAW and Smackdown to end their split, with a separate roster on ECW. Then, maybe ECW could be more than Heat, and some actual talented midcarders could resurrect the show's watchability.......

 

Just think, no Test or Hardcore Holly in the main event.

 

I would go on a rant about why it is incredibly stupid to end the brand split, but I have to leave for work in 3 minutes so I'll do it later.

[Taker666 0]

I don't know why everyone wants the brand extention to end so bad. I think it makes WWE Programming more entertaining than just having one show with the same wrestlers and storylines. With the extention, each show has their own Champions, wrestlers, and storylines which makes WWE alot more fresher than seeing the same shit everyweek. Last year, SmackDown was a fresh of breath air for me from seeing the tiresome act of DX, the McMahons and Super Cena dominate Raw every monday. SmackDown had none of that and actually had stuff I actually enjoyed which is why I'am a huge supporter of the brand extension.

 

another positive is instead of having to stomech John Cena's Title reign all over WWE. I could turn on SmackDown and see a Champion I actually enjoy watching. or vice versa.

 

the brand extention is here to stay.

[razazteca 0]

The only time Mr. McMahon would be on every damn minute of WWE programming would be during the major angles leading up to Royal Rumble, Wrestlemania, Summerslam, Suvivor Series. I'm sorry but throwing in some no name guys who never really did anything on the indy circuit other than the traditional WWE developemental deal really should not be given major pushes up against established champions like HHH, HBK, or Undertaker. It's really insulting to give some random pretty boy a push when the fan knows that there is no chance in hell that he can win its not like he is a second generation wrestler with a bloodline that runs deep in the company. Its even more insulting to give random bodybuilder a move made famous by a superstar of the past when you know damn well know the signature move's legacy belongs to the son who is sitting on the sidelines.

[Mecca 0]

People want it to end because obviously anyone who isn't a huge star already sucks to them. Go listen to people talk you'd think Raw was awesome and Smackdown sucked because they "don't have anyone who's any good".

 

The WWE marketing in some ways that only stars matter has backfired to the extent that people only want to see them and refuse to give new people a chance.

[razazteca 0]

Kill ECW (as having three brands makes no sense) and just have the champions go back and forth between shows. Unify the belts (all of them) except the US and Intercontinental, which can be the top "brand-specific" belt.

Its time to have a true World Champion who can go to any brand at will. And for the love of god get rid of the damn spinner belt by unifying the belts to make a Triple Crown Champion (WWE, World, ECW) then have the IC belt stay on Raw and US be defended on both Smackdown and ECW since both shows are taped at the same time. Edge can unify the belts then of course lose to HHH whenever he gets back into shape. Bobby Lashley can go back to chasing the US belt, Batista can rest to heal his injured biceps, Cena can go on tour to promote a rap album which would leave Edge to feud with HBK, Orton, Ken Kennedy, Kennedy. Undisputed tag team champs would be London & Spanky who would feud with WGTT, MNM, Cade & Murdoch, Hardys.

[razazteca 0]

People want it to end because obviously anyone who isn't a huge star already sucks to them. Go listen to people talk you'd think Raw was awesome and Smackdown sucked because they "don't have anyone who's any good".

 

The WWE marketing in some ways that only stars matter has backfired to the extent that people only want to see them and refuse to give new people a chance.

Of course WWE marketing is ass backwards as they like to give the young up and comers stupid gimmicks like cheerleaders, horror movie themed, ethnic based, basically sideshow circus shit that gets forgotten in a few months. They would bury the young guys for months then have them disappear from tv for a few months to comeback for a decent push but the public already have in their minds that these guys are nothing but jobbers so who gives a damn. Then when the guys show a little promise to get over they get thrown into the main event on the wrong brand just to make sure they sabotage any chance of getting over. And if that doesn't work they are given a valet who would steal whatever heat the crowd gives and if that doesn't work its back to going to cheap tactics like making them patriots so the crowd can chant USA.

[Perfxion 0]

my two copper coins....

• Unify the "World titles" to make a WWE triple crown and have it go on all brands.
• Rename the following titles:
  • WWE Tag Team to WWE US tag team(With new belt to make it a US level title
  • World tag team to WWE World tag team
• Bring back the TV title for ECW
• Rename ECW brand and give the TV show a name. Hell, name the show Extreme
• Don't fully end the split but have it to the point where fresher matches can be done. How many times can Edge and Cena wrestle? How many times can Batista and Booker wrestle?
• Starting 2008 have 17 PPVs with them being 3 weeks apart, however rotate the storylines so that Cena/Batista/Taker/HHH/HBK are not on all shows and does a more UFC style where every PPV doesn't seem to have every same star on it.
• Make a true 3rd brand for house show touring and make it more "old school" style where the territories have routes to make the few times some people come into areas sell the event more.
• Rebuild a new main event class because the old gaurd is well too injured to be on three shows.

Thats how I would do it.

[The Niggardly King 0]

I see this hurting the buyrates of their big 4 PPVS... and buyrates shortly going back to the norm.

[razazteca 0]

Royal Rumble and Wrestlemania will never be hurting for buyrates people will it just on name only hell Wrestlemania can have Boogeyman vs Umaga as the main event and it will still sell millions. Summerslam and Survivor Series might be hurting if they don't do 4 vs 4 tag matches with big names at Survivor Series and if Summerslam does not have a good title match. Everything else just feels like a regular In Your House show with short to no build or are just rematches from feuds that people might want to pay for.

[jester 0]

You know what the real problem with ending the brand split is?

 

They never fully tried a brand splt to begin with.

[NoCalMike 0]

WCW did a better job of featuring alternatives to the ME guys, and they did it without a "brand split"

[CBright7831 0]

Or you could, you know, not buy any PPVs

Why do that when they are released on DVD three weeks after the PPV and for much less I should add.

[sluggo 0]

Kill ECW (as having three brands makes no sense) and just have the champions go back and forth between shows. Unify the belts (all of them) except the US and Intercontinental, which can be the top "brand-specific" belt.

Its time to have a true World Champion who can go to any brand at will.

 

 

if you remember, when the split first happened, the champ did go to both shows. It was dumb too. Like the champ would drop the title to someone on Raw when the storyline on SD was building to a PPV. See Taker's last title run to understand what I mean.

[Lil' Bitch 0]

Pretty sad this had to happen, but its WWE's fault for letting their "RAW is good, Smackdown is bad" bullshit mentality get in the way of business.

[Jericholic82 0]

Yea this makes sense

 

IN CASE YOU DIDN'T NOTICE I WAS BEING SARCASTIC

 

this renders all these extra ppvs pointless. I guess I understand changing the ecw ppv to wwe ppv names, cuz every raw and sd ppv is "WWE __________", not Raw Backlash or Smackdown Judgment Day.

[TheFranchise 0]

Edit.

[TheFranchise 0]

Jesus, I thought I was in the Raw thread twice in a row.

[imajackoff? 0]

The brand exclusive ppvs SHOULD have worked. How freakin' hard is it to build up to a PPV when you have 2 months to do it? With all of the hours of TV they have, each angle and match from top to bottom should have had plenty of time to develop.

 

Piss.Poor.Booking.

[RepoMan 0]

The brand exclusive ppvs SHOULD have worked. How freakin' hard is it to build up to a PPV when you have 2 months to do it? With all of the hours of TV they have, each angle and match from top to bottom should have had plenty of time to develop.

 

Piss.Poor.Booking.

I agree in theory, but by having one brand PPVs, you pretty much offecially telling WWE fans that it's a B show PPV.

[slimm44 0]

Hopefully they will bring back King of the Ring, and have it multi-branded.

[BruiserKC 0]

I've thought about this and I came up with an idea that I think would work.

 

Those who say nay to the brand extension ending cite the fact that the main eventers would be all over every show and they are absolutely right. 5 hours of Triple H, Batista, Lashley, John Cena, etc. would get tired quick.

 

I propose ending the brand split but keeping the main eventers and certain mid-carders specific to each show. You can let everyone mid-card down scatter around but keep the main eventers to one show. Hype it up as the general managers of the show signing their top guys to "exclusivity contracts" like how Stephanie got Brock Lesnar to defend the WWE Title exclusively on Smackdown in 2002.

 

I like the idea, personally. It would let the mid-carders and low-carders get tons more experience in front of a camera and it would keep the top guys from oversaturating television.

 

I'd also put an end to exclusive titles except for the world titles. The U.S. Title could be merged into the I-C Title and the Smackdown tag titles could be merged into the Raw tag titles since the Raw ones have the lineage behind them.

 

You could also play around with the higher mid-carders and give someone a rub by dubbing them exclusive to one show to make them seem like a big deal as needed.

 

Umaga would have been great for that scenario. Have him run rampant through Raw, Smackdown, and ECW and then Coach makes the big exclusive deal to keep Umaga on Raw only. It's just an example of how I'd work it.

 

WWE has proven they aren't capable to execute the brand extension the way it could have been, so I think it's necessary to disable some components of it.

 

 

I'd keep the IC and US titles separate...merge the World and the tag titles. You can keep some wrestlers exclusive to specific shows, but the World champion should float among all three shows. Perhaps bring in a TV title also...with the old stipulation back in the day where the champ defends the belt every time he wrestles on TV.

[Kahran Ramsus 0]

Hopefully they will bring back King of the Ring, and have it multi-branded.

 

I like the idea of having both sides of the bracket be exclusive to one brand and then have RAW vs. Smackdown in the finals. A KOTR Finals of say Edge vs. Kennedy would certainly have me interested.

[Dobbs 3K 0]

Hopefully they will bring back King of the Ring, and have it multi-branded.

 

I like the idea of having both sides of the bracket be exclusive to one brand and then have RAW vs. Smackdown in the finals. A KOTR Finals of say Edge vs. Kennedy would certainly have me interested.

 

Didn't they kind of do that with the last KotR PPV? I know it was after the brand split...there were rumors they might try to do Buh-Buh Ray (RAW) vs Rev. D-Von (Smackdown) in the finals, but obviously that didn't happen.

[Kahran Ramsus 0]

Hopefully they will bring back King of the Ring, and have it multi-branded.

 

I like the idea of having both sides of the bracket be exclusive to one brand and then have RAW vs. Smackdown in the finals. A KOTR Finals of say Edge vs. Kennedy would certainly have me interested.

 

Didn't they kind of do that with the last KotR PPV? I know it was after the brand split...there were rumors they might try to do Buh-Buh Ray (RAW) vs Rev. D-Von (Smackdown) in the finals, but obviously that didn't happen.

 

They screwed it up by having Jericho (a Smackdown wrestler) face RVD (RAW) and Lesnar (RAW) face Test (Smackdown) in the semi-finals.