Chris Benoit Dead - Toxicology results released

[bobobrazil1984 0]

Great, now this is going to become a "OMG Religion suxx doodz!" thread.

 

Just because Benoit left Bibles does not mean that he's a religious freak. He could have been influenced by Eddie's conversion, and felt remorse after killing them, hoping they go to a better place.

 

As far as Christianity goes, and that's relevant since it was a Bible left beside the family, just being good doesnt' get you into heaven. But I've already talked about that in the Religion thread in CE. Now lets give up the "religious freak" portion of the discussion and get back to the fact that a man and his family are dead

 

Is Daniel Benoit going to heaven or not?

[TheBigSwigg 0]

Though there is the thought that children automatically go to heaven, there's no way to be sure.

[bobobrazil1984 0]

Well, then, I guess Benoit's mission to send his kid to a better situation was a raging success.

[Hawk 34 0]

I wonder what he was thinking when Nancy was begging for her life after he tied her up.

 

I also wonder what he was thinking when he wrapped a bag around his own son's head on his bed and suffocated him.

 

What's going through someone's head when they do these things?

 

Based on what they said......he likely didn't hear either beg. She had blood on her head he probably clocked her and knocked her out...and his son was asleep....

 

I still just think the guy lost his fucking mind, but who's to really know.....All that weird bible shit for all I know it was his weird planned way of going to see Eddy again and taking his family with him.

 

So he believed Eddie was in Hell?

 

Randy wouldn't lie.

[StrapFinlay 0]

Great, now this is going to become a "OMG Religion suxx doodz!" thread.

 

Just because Benoit left Bibles does not mean that he's a religious freak. He could have been influenced by Eddie's conversion, and felt remorse after killing them, hoping they go to a better place.

 

As far as Christianity goes, and that's relevant since it was a Bible left beside the family, just being good doesnt' get you into heaven. But I've already talked about that in the Religion thread in CE. Now lets give up the "religious freak" portion of the discussion and get back to the fact that a man and his family are dead

 

Agree with you in the most part.

 

But I'd love to know where the Bibles were opened if they were.

 

Though as far as I'm concerned I wouldn't really draw much into the religious aspect of this - it really has no importance in this situation.

[thuganomics 0]

I wonder what he was thinking when Nancy was begging for her life after he tied her up.

 

I also wonder what he was thinking when he wrapped a bag around his own son's head on his bed and suffocated him.

 

What's going through someone's head when they do these things?

 

hey, maybe Chris Benoit takes religion literally. What do you think is better, this world, or heaven!???????

 

 

It's kinda hard to go to heaven when you MURDER your wife and kid.

 

Um, i meant the kid going to heaven. Wasn't that one of hte theories? that he killed Nancy, and then decided to kill the kid and was sending his kid to a better place?

 

I mean, hey, if you took religion literally, killing your own kid would send the kid to heaven, right!?? The kid was probably a good kid. Now he'll have a better life in heaven than he would have with no mother and a psycho dad!!!

 

Good people go to heaven when they die!!!!!!! Doens't religion say that????

 

No, at least in Christianity's case. Belief in Jesus dying for your sins and repentance for your own sins will lead one to heaven.

 

And, honestly, that could very well be the reason he killed his son. With mom dead, him going to jail or already planning suicide, his obviously demented mind saw it as the best alternative for poor, poor Daniel.

 

[Fartsauce 0]

Seriously why is religion being brought into this? That's just as retarded as wondering what Viscera's farts taste like after an egg salad sandwhich.

[Celtic Jobber 0]

They're talking about this on CNN Headline News right now. Scott Ballard the D.A. on the case said Daniel had needle marks and they believe he had been on growth hormones for some time. The first text message sent said Nancy and Daniel were sick, and the last text message Chris sent said someone needs to check on his dogs.

[Mystery Eskimo 0]

Well, we dont know if religion has any significance or not. If Benoit killed his kid because he truly thought he'd be better off in heaven than on earth without his parents, then it does, but I don't suppose we'll ever know for sure.

[RedJed 0]

They're talking about this on CNN Headline News right now. Scott Ballard the D.A. on the case said Daniel had needle marks and they believe he had been on growth hormones for some time. The first text message sent said Nancy and Daniel were sick, and the last text message Chris sent said someone needs to check on his dogs.

 

WTF - this shit gets more fucked by the minute. Chris was giving Daniel fucking HGH?!!!!

[Gary Floyd 0]

He shouldn't have taken Orton so seriously.

[Ripper 0]

When ABC, WWE and others are reporting authorities believe Benoit killed his family and then himself the only thing left to speculate is how and why the scumbag did it.

 

 

This is stupid.

 

It's not so fuckin' stupid now, is it? Benoit was a scumbag who commited a low life crime. I just wish he didn't take his own life so he could rot in prison.

 

Yeah, its still stupid.

 

"ABC sed it wuz true so it must be. I don't need no actual proof."

 

You do realize that the media was reporting what the investigators were saying right?

 

 

No they weren't. They were reporting what a unnamed source within in the station said.

 

If they were reporting what the investigators said, they wouldn't have been 48 hours off on Benoits time of death and 24 off on Nancy and Daniel. They would have known about the little stuff like, oh, I don't know, her being tied up and strangled. So basically they went from him text messaging people on sunday during the PPV to him being dead on Saturday.

 

So once again, saying something is obviously true because a unnamed on source on the news says it is, that is indeed stupid.

[RedJed 0]

Meltzer is on Fox News right now.

[bobobrazil1984 0]

They're talking about this on CNN Headline News right now. Scott Ballard the D.A. on the case said Daniel had needle marks and they believe he had been on growth hormones for some time. The first text message sent said Nancy and Daniel were sick, and the last text message Chris sent said someone needs to check on his dogs.

 

..........................

[LooseCannon25 0]

Well, then, I guess Benoit's mission to send his kid to a better situation was a raging success.

 

 

The problem with that is that it wasn't Benoit's decision to make. You can't just play God, and then ask for forgiveness afterwards. I doubt that's why he did it anyway. Maybe he's just a sick, twisted, fuck who decided to kill everyone in the house one day.

 

 

I'm tired of people trying to fuckin make Benoit look like he was doing this for the good of his family and there was a positive light in this. The asshole tied up his wife and beat her, and then he killed his son. Period.

[Obi Chris Kenobi 0]

They're talking about this on CNN Headline News right now. Scott Ballard the D.A. on the case said Daniel had needle marks and they believe he had been on growth hormones for some time. The first text message sent said Nancy and Daniel were sick, and the last text message Chris sent said someone needs to check on his dogs.

 

I literally said 'fuck off' when I read this, that's just fucked up. This is turning into some kind of crazy hollywood movie about a fucked up wrestler...

[StrapFinlay 0]

Out of interest, and this isn't a complete list:

 

List of wrestlers dying at 40 of below since 1985:-

 

Chris Von Erich - 21

Mike Von Erich - 23

Louie Spiccoli - 27

Art Barr - 28

Gino Hernandez - 29

Jay Youngblood - 30

Rick McGraw - 30

Joey Marella - 30

Ed Gatner - 31

Buzz Sawyer - 32

Crash Holly - 32

Kerry Von Erich - 33

D.J. Peterson - 33

Eddie Gilbert - 33

The Renegade - 33

Owen Hart - 33

Chris Candido - 33

Adrian Adonis - 34

Gary Albright - 34

Bobby Duncum Jr. - 34

Yokozuna - 34

Big Dick Dudley - 34

Brian Pillman - 35

Marianna Komlos - 35

Pitbull #2 - 36

The Wall/Malice - 36

Leroy Brown - 38

Mark Curtis - 38

Eddie Guerrero - 38

Davey Boy Smith - 39

Johnny Grunge - 39

Vivian Vachon - 40

Jeep Swenson - 40

Brady Boone - 40

Terry Gordy - 40

Bertha Faye - 40

Billy Joe Travis - 40

Chris Benoit - 40

[LaParkaMarka 0]

They're talking about this on CNN Headline News right now. Scott Ballard the D.A. on the case said Daniel had needle marks and they believe he had been on growth hormones for some time. The first text message sent said Nancy and Daniel were sick, and the last text message Chris sent said someone needs to check on his dogs.

 

WTF - this shit gets more fucked by the minute. Chris was giving Daniel fucking HGH?!!!!

 

Anyone know what kind of effect this would have on a child?

[Celtic Jobber 0]

D.A. Ballard and Dave Meltzer are on FoxNews right now. I'm putting this on Youtube later for those who miss it...

[milliondollarchamp 0]

Im watching CNN, there were needle marks in the boy's arms. They said he was taking growth hormones. Why would a 7 year old be taking hormones?

[bobobrazil1984 0]

Well, then, I guess Benoit's mission to send his kid to a better situation was a raging success.

 

 

The problem with that is that it wasn't Benoit's decision to make. You can't just play God, and then ask for forgiveness afterwards. I doubt that's why he did it anyway. Maybe he's just a sick, twisted, fuck who decided to kill everyone in the house one day.

 

 

I'm tired of people trying to fuckin make Benoit look like he was doing this for the good of his family and there was a positive light in this. The asshole tied up his wife and beat her, and then he killed his son. Period.

 

so what, you think the big guy is gonna deny little Daniel entry into the big white land that's better than this land, because it wasn't daddy's decision to make? that would be very f'ed up, wtf did Daniel ever do? Why doesn't he deserve to go to heaven!?!?

[RedJed 0]

Reporter on Fox grilling Meltz on that the whole reasoning behind this is roids. Here we go........fucking media.......

 

THE DUDE WAS FUCKED IN THE HEAD, ROIDS DO NOT MAKE PEOPLE KILL THEIR FAMILY.

[World's Worst Man 0]

Steroids could worsen the problem.

[Downhome 0]

This this shit continues to get worse, I'll never know...

[Red Baron 0]

For those who live in Canada, Global is going to interview Bret Hart about this whole situation.

[DrVenkman PhD 0]

"One man in the several decades of wrestling history may have had a mental breakdown before he killed his family and himself, therefore Vince is done and wrestling is over".

 

Yeah, ok.

 

Blaming the business / Vince for Benoit's actions is almost as bad as people that blame Doom for school shootings. I say "almost" because wrestling does undoubtedly take a toll on you, but still, point remains.

 

I just love it when people make stuff up that noone ever said.

 

1. I was making a general statement by piecing together what others had been saying. I'll admit it's not that obvious, but I wasn't pretending to directly quote anyone.

 

2. "Vince is done" IS an exact quote from StrapFinlay.

[Celtic Jobber 0]

Nothing new really on the FoxNews piece.

[Hawk 34 0]

Im watching CNN, there were needle marks in the boy's arms. They said he was taking growth hormones. Why would a 7 year old be taking hormones?

 

His father started using roids as a teen. Benoit probably wanted to give Daniel a head start.

[RedJed 0]

Steroids could worsen the problem.

 

Thats VERY speculative at best.

[Superfly Snuka 0]

Im watching CNN, there were needle marks in the boy's arms. They said he was taking growth hormones. Why would a 7 year old be taking hormones?

 

Anyone sure the DA didn't actually mean Chris had needle marks (and misspoken by accident). Cause, I would think he would have revealed that at the newsconference since he revealed other things pretty freely at it at 3PM.

 

If the boy did have needle marks, I would think it's because benoit sedated him(?) before he killed him (maybe he didn't want a struggle with his son or something).