devo 0 Report post Posted September 29, 2007 So. It all comes down to the last day of the year. I love baseball. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brett Favre 0 Report post Posted September 29, 2007 What happens if the Mets and Phillies finish tied? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Black Lushus 0 Report post Posted September 29, 2007 Phillies have the tie breaker...don't you remember those constant sweeping beat downs the Phillies were laying on them? No, the Mets need a win and a Phillies loss tomorrow or it's curtains. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vern Gagne 0 Report post Posted September 29, 2007 Isn't the tiebreaker only used if both teams quality for the playoffs? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spaceman Spiff 0 Report post Posted September 29, 2007 Mets/Phillies tie means a 1-game playoff in Philly on Monday. ESPN's NL tiebreaker breakdown. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Black Lushus 0 Report post Posted September 30, 2007 thank you for the correction. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NYU 0 Report post Posted September 30, 2007 Phillies have the tie breaker...don't you remember those constant sweeping beat downs the Phillies were laying on them? No, the Mets need a win and a Phillies loss tomorrow or it's curtains. This ain't football, Lushus! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Black Lushus 0 Report post Posted September 30, 2007 haha see what happens when I try to talk baseball! uh...Go Mets! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Slayer 0 Report post Posted September 30, 2007 Colorado means business Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanadianChris 0 Report post Posted September 30, 2007 Boston will clinch the AL's best record if Cleveland can't come back against KC. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EVIL~! alkeiper 0 Report post Posted September 30, 2007 One more day for it all. No more prognostications or predictions, you really can't predict what's going to happen in a single day. It is going to be nerve-racking, that is for sure. The Mets and Phillies are once again tied. The big story however might be San Diego's blown save. They could have clinched a playoff spot today. Instead they remain with 89 wins, and if they lose tomorrow any of three teams could equal their record. The Rockies' miracle run lives for the 162nd game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Gym Class Fallout Report post Posted September 30, 2007 White Sox sign Pierzynski for $12 million over two years, keeping him through 2010. Don't stop believin'! I'm still looking for verification that Kenny Williams signed Pablo Ozuna for $25 million over 5. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Richard 0 Report post Posted September 30, 2007 Well remember how I said the Padres don't deserve to make the playoffs? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EVIL~! alkeiper 0 Report post Posted September 30, 2007 That doesn't make them more effective managers. Piniella should be held accountable for the team after he retooled it, because the Cubs with DeRosa at second full-time, Izturis, Soriano in center, and Wade Miller was Hendry's vision of the team, and what we see now is Lou's. It's been such a drastic change. I can't give it to Manuel. I thought everyone wanted him fired for the last three years. Is Manager of the Year "manager of the overachieving team of the year" or is it "manager to whom we can attribute the best contributions to his team's success"? Strictly rhetorical Q, obv. You make an excellent point. The manager of the year award often goes to either a first place team, or the most surprising good team. Managers of the year over the last decade have included Dusty Baker, Larry Bowa, Ozzie Guillen, Jimy Williams and Jerry Manuel. You don't get the impression as with the MVP voting that these men represent the cream of their field. I think like players, a manager's skills and performance from year to year should be relatively static. Yet the award bounces all over the place. Managers are almost certainly evaluated by the on-field personnel they are given. It makes it a silly award overall. If you give the award to say, Joe Torre, what skills are you exactly praising him for, besides winning? Most of us can't answer that when we make our awards picks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vern Gagne 0 Report post Posted September 30, 2007 If New York, Philadelphia, Colorado win and San Diego loses. • The loser then would then move on to a three-team wild-card tournament that would work the way we laid it out above. But here is how baseball would decide which team would get the option of one road game or two home games • In an Arizona-San Diego-New York three-way: Diamondbacks. • In a Colorado -San Diego-New York three-way: Rockies. • In an Arizona-San Diego-Philadelphia three-way: Diamondbacks. • In a Colorado-San Diego-Philadelphia three-way: Rockies. I thought the one game playoff counted against your overall record? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fuzzy Dunlop 0 Report post Posted September 30, 2007 Arizona's already clinched their division, so you can take them out of that scenario you posted. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iggymcfly 0 Report post Posted September 30, 2007 I thought the one game playoff counted against your overall record? Common misconception, but no. The idea was that you don't want to punish the teams that are tied for their division by in effectively giving the team that didn't tie for their division a bye into the playoffs. I don't think MLB ever imagined these crazy 4-way scenarios were actually possible though. Predictions for funsies: Philly and New York both win tomorrow and play a playoff game on Monday. San Diego blows the game vs. Milwaukee, and Colorado wins, setting up a 3-way wild-card playoff. On Monday, the Mets beat the Phillies to win the East, the Phils follow up the loss to the Mets with a loss to the Padres, and then the Padres redeem themselves for losing the last two games of the regular season by beating Colorado for the wild card. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dobbs 3K 0 Report post Posted September 30, 2007 Though I kind of like Pierzynski, all these re-signings by the White Sox seem to be the opposite of what they should be trying to do right now. They need to re-build, to a point, but it seems like they just want to hold all their current cards and stand pat. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Gym Class Fallout Report post Posted September 30, 2007 I'd put Bob Brenly in my avatar, but my new computer doesn't have a GIF maker and I don't feel like installing it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanadianChris 0 Report post Posted September 30, 2007 The one-game playoff did count in the standings as recently as 1999, but apparently the rule has been changed since then. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EVIL~! alkeiper 0 Report post Posted September 30, 2007 The one-game playoff did count in the standings as recently as 1999, but apparently the rule has been changed since then. It does count in the standings, but it doesn't count in terms of the wild card playoff. Any statistics accumulated in such games count as regular season statistics. Important Games today: Florida Marlins (Dontrelle Willis) @ New York Mets (Tom Glavine), 1:10pm Washington Nationals (Jason Bergmann) @ Philadelphia Phillies, 1:35pm San Diego Padres (Brett Tomko) @ Milwaukee Brewers (Jeff Suppan), 2:05pm Arizona Diamondbacks (Doug Davis) @ Colorado Rockies (Ubaldo Jimenez), 3:05pm San Diego can clinch the wild card today with a victory. The Mets and Phillies are tied, you can do the math on that one. Colorado needs a win and San Diego loss to force a wild card playoff. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob_barron 0 Report post Posted September 30, 2007 Tom Glavine Solomon Torresing the game today would make my season Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
the pinjockey 0 Report post Posted September 30, 2007 Just ordered tickets for a tiebreaker tomorrow. Hope I don't have to use them. Would be wild tomorrow though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JHawk 0 Report post Posted September 30, 2007 Does someone want to explain why none of the four games with playoff implications today have any form of national TV? Three straight nights of Giants games on ESPN in case Bonds hit 756 but no games with playoff implications on the final day of the season? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Smartly Pretty 0 Report post Posted September 30, 2007 Sun Sports has decided that FSU Girls soccer takes precedent over one of the most important ballgames of the year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EVIL~! alkeiper 0 Report post Posted September 30, 2007 I'm not sure what kind of options television stations have when it comes to today. I'm sure some stations would show games if they could. TBS is showing the Braves' outing. Edit: Also, today is traditionally more of a day for local baseball, since there is not always a playoff spot at stake. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EVIL~! alkeiper 0 Report post Posted September 30, 2007 Live chat today as well. If someone wants to chat NFL I'll set up an additional room to accommodate that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EVIL~! alkeiper 0 Report post Posted September 30, 2007 One more bit, the Atlanta/Houston game on TBS is Craig Biggio's final MLB game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob_barron 0 Report post Posted September 30, 2007 More importantly it's the true final Braves game on TBS. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob_barron 0 Report post Posted September 30, 2007 Tom Glavine Solomon Torresing the game today would make my season There is a God Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
