Jump to content
TSM Forums
Sign in to follow this  
kkktookmybabyaway

kkk Bowl V: The Postseason

Recommended Posts

Wild Card Weekend

 

Edit: When double-checking the scores, I got the AFC matchups mixed up. Gert, the sixth seed, should have played Porter, the third seed. Bob Barron, the fifth seed, should have played Cuban Linx, the fourth seed. The outcomes were unchanged, as Gert and Bob both got more correct picks than Linx or Porter.

 

My usual source was being crabby, so I got spreads here. I also heard similar spread numbers on the radio today.

 

 

 

Washington @ Seattle (3.5)

(2.5) Jacksonville @ Pittsburgh

N.Y. Giants @ Tampa Bay (3.5)

Tennessee @ San Diego (9.5)

 

 

 

Buffalo Bills (Bob Barron 10-6) @ San Diego Chargers (Porter 9-7)

 

Bob Barron:

Washington 17, Seattle 28

Jacksonville 17, Pittsburgh 20

N.Y. Giants 21, Tampa Bay 13

Tennesee 10, San Diego 28

 

Porter:

Washington 24, Seattle 21

Jacksonville 17, Pittsburgh 20

N.Y. Giants 34 Tampa Bay 17

Tennessee 20, San Diego 28

 

DIFF: SEA/WAS, SD/TEN

 

 

 

New York Jets (Gert T 10-6) @ Tennessee Titans (Cuban Linx 8-8)

 

Gert T:

Washington 13, Seattle 20

Jacksonville 27, Pittsburgh 24

N.Y. Giants 21, Tampa Bay 14

Tennessee 10, San Diego 28

 

Cuban Linx:

Washington 13, Seattle 27

Jacksonville 17, Pittsburgh 20

N.Y. Giants 14, Tampa Bay 28

Tennessee 19, San Diego 17

 

DIFF: JAX/PIT, NYG/TB, SD/TEN

 

 

 

Tampa Bay Buccaneers (Starvenger 9-7) @ Dallas Cowboys (Hawk34 10-5-1)

 

Starvenger:

Washington 17, Seattle 24

Jacksonville 24, Pittsburgh 14

N.Y. Giants 21, Tampa Bay 17

Tennessee 17 San Diego 20

 

Hawk34:

Washington 16, Seattle 27

Jacksonville 23, Pittsburgh 14

N.Y. Giants 31, Tampa Bay 28

Tennessee 17, San Diego 16

 

DIFF: To be decided by tie-breaker

 

 

 

Seattle Seahawks (Steve Rogers 11-5) @ New Orleans Saints (Cena’s Writer 10-6)

 

Steve Rogers:

Washington 36, Seattle 27

Jacksonville 7, Pittsburgh 21

N.Y. Giants 36, Tampa Bay 33

Tennessee 7, San Diego 34

 

Cena's Writer:

Washington 20, Seattle 27

Jacksonville 17, Pittsburgh 24

N.Y. Giants 28, Tampa Bay 24

Tennessee 17, San Diego 31

 

DIFF: WAS/SEA

 

 

 

First-round byes:

Miami Dolphins (Spaceman Spiff 11-5)

Pittsburgh Steelers (Kahran Ramsus 10-6)

San Francisco 49ers (Devo 11-5)

Detroit Lions (Chazz1998 11-5)

 

 

 

Details about how the postseason works can be found in the Week 17 thread. If you want to relive last season's excitement, which finally had a non-New York state team win it all, click here.

 

In addition to all playoff rounds, I will be posting over the next month or so end-of-season recaps for each team.

 

For those still playing, remember to PM me your picks -- including the score of each game.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

So my first post of the postseason deals with ... me.

 

I "played along" this season making picks and decided to do a "what if" had I taken Kahran's place as the Steelers.

 

Well, I had a 10-6 record and would have the second seed. However, instead of going 11-5 and clinching the top seed in the NFC, the 49ers, which I defeated in Week 2 and which Kahran lost to, would have went 10-6, giving Seattle the division. Also, every other AFC North team would have went 8-8.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I got them and just sent a PM to you before updating this thread.

 

 

PF Totals

The total amount of correct picks each team made for the year.

 

130 (1st Place)

Seattle Seahawks (Steve Rogers)

 

129 (2nd Place)

Detroit Lions (Chazz 1998)

 

126 (3rd Place)

Kansas City Chiefs (Alfdogg)

 

125 (4th-5th Place)

Philadelphia Eagles (Harley Quinn)

San Diego Chargers (Porter)

 

124 (6th Place)

Cleveland Browns (SFA Jack)

 

123 (7th-10th Place)

Houston Texans (Bored)

Pittsburgh Steelers (Kahran Ramsus)

Tennessee Titans (Cuban Linx)

Washington Redskins (Human Fly)

 

122 (11th-12th Place)

Oakland Raiders (Smues)

New Orleans Saints (Cena’s Writer)

 

121 (13th Place)

San Francisco 49ers (Devo)

 

120 (14th-15th Place)

Denver Broncos (Canadian Chris)

Miami Dolphins (Spaceman Spiff)

 

118 (16th-18th Place)

Jacksonville Jaguars (Always Pissed Off)

Minnesota Vikings (Danville Wrestling)

New York Jets (Gert T)

 

117 (19th-21th Place)

Buffalo Bills (Bob Barron)

Dallas Cowboys (Hawk 34)

Tampa Bay Buccaneers (Starvenger)

 

116 (22nd Place)

Green Bay Packers (Vitamin X)

 

115 (23rd-25th Place)

Carolina Panthers (Fazzle)

Cincinnati Bengals (Teke)

New England Patriots (nl-asshole)

 

113 (26th-27th Place)

Baltimore Ravens (King PK)

St. Louis Rams (Canadian Guitarist)

 

112 (28th Place)

Indianapolis Colts (Prime Time Andrew Doyle)

 

111 (29th Place)

Chicago Bears (Agent Of Oblivion)

 

109 (30th-31st Place)

Atlanta Falcons (King Of The 909)

New York Giants (Cartman)

 

107 (32nd Place)

Arizona Cardinals (Vern Gagne)

 

 

PA Totals

Like a “strength of schedule,” this is the number of correct picks for each team’s opponents. The higher the number, the tougher the competition

 

133 (1st Place)

Minnesota Vikings (Danville Wrestling)

 

128 (2nd-3rd Place)

Denver Broncos (Canadian Chris)

Baltimore Ravens (King PK)

 

127 (4th Place)

Philadelphia Eagles (Harley Quinn)

 

126 (5th-7th Place)

Arizona Cardinals (Vern Gagne)

Cincinnati Bengals (Teke)

Indianapolis Colts (Prime Time Andrew Doyle)

 

125 (8th-9th Place)

Detroit Lions (Chazz 1998)

Houston Texans (Bored)

 

123 (10th-11th Place)

Washington Redskins (Human Fly)

St. Louis Rams (Canadian Guitarist)

 

120 (12th-13th Place)

Jacksonville Jaguars (Always Pissed Off)

San Diego Chargers (Porter)

 

119 (14th Place)

Green Bay Packers (Vitamin X)

 

118 (15th-17th Place)

Buffalo Bills (Bob Barron)

Oakland Raiders (Smues)

Tampa Bay Buccaneers (Starvenger)

 

117 (18th-19th Place)

Atlanta Falcons (King Of The 909)

Kansas City Chiefs (Alfdogg)

 

116 (20th Place)

Cleveland Browns (SFA Jack)

 

114 (21st-23rd Place)

Chicago Bears (Agent Of Oblivion)

New England Patriots (nl-asshole)

New York Jets (Gert T)

 

113 (24th-26th Place)

Carolina Panthers (Fazzle)

Seattle Seahawks (Steve Rogers)

Tennessee Titans (Cuban Linx)

 

112 (27th Place)

Miami Dolphins (Spaceman Spiff)

 

111 (28th-29th Place)

New Orleans Saints (Cena’s Writer)

New York Giants (Cartman)

 

110 (30th Place)

Pittsburgh Steelers (Kahran Ramsus)

 

108 (31st-32nd Place)

Dallas Cowboys (Hawk 34)

San Francisco 49ers (Devo)

 

 

Power Rankings

I take the PF scores and subtract them by the PA scores. I don’t know what this figure is supposed to mean, but I do it anyway.

 

(+17)

Seattle Seahawks (Steve Rogers)

 

(+13)

Pittsburgh Steelers (Kahran Ramsus)

San Francisco 49ers (Devo)

 

(+11)

New Orleans Saints (Cena’s Writer)

 

(+10)

Tennessee Titans (Cuban Linx)

 

(+9)

Dallas Cowboys (Hawk 34)

Kansas City Chiefs (Alfdogg)

 

(+8)

Cleveland Browns (SFA Jack)

Miami Dolphins (Spaceman Spiff)

 

(+5)

San Diego Chargers (Porter)

 

(+4)

Detroit Lions (Chazz 1998)

New York Jets (Gert T)

Oakland Raiders (Smues)

 

(+2)

Carolina Panthers (Fazzle)

 

(+1)

New England Patriots (nl-asshole)

 

(0)

Washington Redskins (Human Fly)

 

(-1)

Buffalo Bills (Bob Barron)

Tampa Bay Buccaneers (Starvenger)

 

(-2)

Houston Texans (Bored)

Jacksonville Jaguars (Always Pissed Off)

New York Giants (Cartman)

Philadelphia Eagles (Harley Quinn)

 

(-3)

Chicago Bears (Agent Of Oblivion)

Green Bay Packers (Vitamin X)

 

(-8)

Atlanta Falcons (King Of The 909)

Denver Broncos (Canadian Chris)

 

(-10)

St. Louis Rams (Canadian Guitarist)

 

(-11)

Cincinnati Bengals (Teke)

 

(-14)

Indianapolis Colts (Prime Time Andrew Doyle)

 

(-15)

Baltimore Ravens (King PK)

Minnesota Vikings (Danville Wrestling)

 

(-19)

Arizona Cardinals (Vern Gagne)

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Note to self, never, EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH

go with the "sentimental favorite" (unless I feel said team really is the superior team) AAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGAAAAAAAAAAAAAIIIIINNNNNNNNNNN!

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

With this being the fifth year, I went back into the vault and decided to do some "all-time" rankings. Below are the all-time leaders for PF's, PA's and Power Rankings from kkk Bowls II through V. I did not include the first season because games were not decided by point spreads (the lowest PF score that year was 133). The roman numerals indicate what season the score took place.

 

PF Scores

 

135

First Place

Buffalo Bills

Bob Barron (III)

 

134

Second-Third Place

Seattle Seahawks

C Dubya 04 (III)

 

Atlanta Falcons

King of the 909 (IV)

 

130

Fourth-Fifth Place

New England Patriots

Nl-asshole (III)

 

Seattle Seahawks

Steve Rogers (V)

 

129

Sixth-Seventh Place

Denver Broncos

Canadian Chris (III)

 

Detroit Lions

Chazz 1998 (V)

 

128

Eighth-Tenth Place

Tampa Bay Buccaneers

starvenger (II)

 

Cleveland Browns

SFA Jack (III)

 

Tennessee Titans

Vern Gagne (III)

 

 

 

 

 

PA Score

 

138

First Place

Tennessee Titans

Vern Gagne (III)

 

133

Second PLace

Minnesota Vikings

Danville Wrestling (V)

 

132

Third Place

New England Patriots

Nl-asshole (III)

 

131

Fourth-Sixth Place

New Orleans Saints

Flyboy (II)

 

San Francisco 49ers

Agent Bond34 (II)

 

Pittsburgh Steelers

Kahran Ramsus (III)

 

130

Seventh Place

Cincinnati Bengals

Teke (III)

 

129

Eighth-Tenth Place

Jacksonville Jaguars

Always Pissed Off (II)

 

Seattle Seahawks

C Dubya 04 (III)

 

Washington Redskins

Human Fly (III)

 

 

 

 

 

Power Rankings

 

+21

First Place

Atlanta Falcons

King of the 909 (IV)

 

+18

Second Place

Atlanta Falcons

Lightning Flik (II)

 

+17

Third-Fourth Place

Buffalo Bills

Bob Barron (III)

 

Seattle Seahawks

Steve Rogers (V)

 

+16

Fifth-Eighth Place

Buffalo Bills

Bob Barron (II)

 

Tennessee Titans

Chuck Woolery (II)

 

Denver Broncos

Canadian Chris (III)

 

Detroit Lions

Bravesfan (IV)

 

+15

Ninth-Tenth Place

Cleveland Browns

SFA Jack (III)

 

San Diego Chargers

Porter (III)

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
I sent my picks about 10 minutes ago, hopefully KKK got them.

 

Edit: Oh, fuck me. TB determines this? TB has been my achilles heel all year.

Well after 2 games, you're up by 1 in the 2nd TB...

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Wild Card Weekend Results

 

Washington 14, Seattle 35 (3.5)

(2.5) Jacksonville 31, Pittsburgh 29

N.Y. Giants 24, Tampa Bay 14 (3.5)

Tennessee 6, San Diego 17 (9.5)

 

*************************************************************************

 

Buffalo Bills (Bob Barron 10-6) @ San Diego Chargers (Porter 9-7)

 

Bob Barron:

Washington 17, Seattle 28

Jacksonville 17, Pittsburgh 20

N.Y. Giants 21, Tampa Bay 13

Tennesee 10, San Diego 28

 

Porter:

Washington 24, Seattle 21

Jacksonville 17, Pittsburgh 20

N.Y. Giants 34, Tampa Bay 17

Tennessee 20, San Diego 28

 

Bob Barron wins 4-2

 

*************************************************************************

 

New York Jets (Gert T 10-6) @ Tennessee Titans (Cuban Linx 8-8)

 

Gert T:

Washington 13, Seattle 20

Jacksonville 27, Pittsburgh 24

N.Y. Giants 21, Tampa Bay 14

Tennessee 10, San Diego 28

 

Cuban Linx:

Washington 13, Seattle 27

Jacksonville 17, Pittsburgh 20

N.Y. Giants 14, Tampa Bay 28

Tennessee 19, San Diego 17

 

Gert T wins 3-2

 

*************************************************************************

 

Tampa Bay Buccaneers (Starvenger 9-7) @ Dallas Cowboys (Hawk34 10-5-1)

 

Starvenger:

Washington 17, Seattle 24

Jacksonville 24, Pittsburgh 14

N.Y. Giants 21, Tampa Bay 17

Tennessee 17 San Diego 20

 

Hawk34:

Washington 16, Seattle 27

Jacksonville 23, Pittsburgh 14

N.Y. Giants 31, Tampa Bay 28

Tennessee 17, San Diego 16

 

Both teams are tied at 2-2.

 

First tie-breaker (whoever is closest to the total score of each contest):

Washington 14 + Seattle 35 = 49

Jacksonville 31 + Pittsburgh 29 = 60

N.Y. Giants 24 + Tampa Bay 14 =38

Tennessee 6 + San Diego 17 = 23

 

Starvenger 41, Hawk 43

Starvenger 38, Hawk 37

Starvenger 38, Hawk 59

Starvenger 37, Hawk 33

 

Both teams are tied at 2-2 after the first tie-breaker. We go to the second tie-breaker, which is the point total of all four games combined.

 

Total points of all four games = 170

Starvenger's total points = 154

Hawk's total points = 172

 

Hawk wins via the second tie-breaker

 

*************************************************************************

 

Seattle Seahawks (Steve Rogers 11-5) @ New Orleans Saints (Cena’s Writer 10-6)

 

Steve Rogers:

Washington 36, Seattle 27

Jacksonville 7, Pittsburgh 21

N.Y. Giants 36, Tampa Bay 33

Tennessee 7, San Diego 34

 

Cena's Writer:

Washington 20, Seattle 27

Jacksonville 17, Pittsburgh 24

N.Y. Giants 28, Tampa Bay 24

Tennessee 17, San Diego 31

 

Cena's Writer wins 4-3

 

*************************************************************************

 

Divisional Round Matchups

 

N.Y. Jets (Gert T 11-6) @ Miami Dolphins (Spaceman Spiff 11-5)

Sixth seed vs. First seed

 

Buffalo Bills (Bob Barron 11-6) @ Pittsburgh Steelers (Kahran Ramsus 10-6)

Fifth seed vs. Second seed

 

Dallas Cowboys (Hawk34 11-5-1) @ Detroit Lions (Chazz1998 11-5)

Third seed vs. Second seed

 

New Orleans Saints (Cena's Writer 11-6) @ San Francisco 49ers (Devo 11-5)

Sixth seed vs. First seed

 

Spreads to follow later in the week

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Wow. Two points in a double TB? Awesome. Kudos to Star for a nail biter.

That was some level of crazy man. But hey, if I'm going out, that's about as good a way to do it. Good luck the rest of the way.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Divisional Round

 

Seattle @ Green Bay (8.5)

Jacksonville @ New England (13.5)

San Diego @ Indianapolis (8.5)

N.Y. Giants @ Dallas (7.5)

 

***************************************************************************

 

N.Y. Jets (Gert T 11-6) @ Miami Dolphins (Spaceman Spiff 11-5)

 

Gert T:

Seattle 17, Green Bay 27

Jacksonville 24, New England 34

San Diego 17, Indianapolis 31

N.Y. Giants 20, Dallas 24

 

Spaceman Spiff:

Seattle 20, Green Bay 31

Jacksonville 17, New England 34

San Diego 20, Indianapolis 31

N.Y. Gants 27, Dallas 31

 

DIFF: JAX/NE

 

GertT defeated Spaceman Spiff 3-2

 

***************************************************************************

 

Buffalo Bills (Bob Barron 11-6) @ Pittsburgh Steelers (Kahran Ramsus 10-6)

 

Bob Barron:

Seattle 14, Green Bay 28

Jacksonville 17, New England 35

San Diego 13, Indianapolis 27

N.Y. Giants 10, Dallas 17

 

 

Kahran Ramsus:

Seattle 13, Green Bay 30

Jacksonville 24, New England 28

San Diego 21, Indianapolis 40

N.Y. Giants 31, Dallas 34

 

DIFF: NE/JAX

 

Kahran Ramsus defeated Bob Barron 3-2

 

***************************************************************************

 

Dallas Cowboys (Hawk34 11-5-1) @ Detroit Lions (Chazz1998 11-5)

 

Hawk34:

Seattle 21, Green Bay 27

Jacksonville 14, New England 31

San Diego 13, Indianapolis 23

N.Y. Giants 27, Dallas 31

 

Chazz1998:

Seattle 23, Green Bay 27

Jacksonville 14, New England 31

San Diego 20, Indianapolis 34

N.Y. Giants 17, Dallas 28

 

DIFF: NYG/DAL

 

Hawk34 defeated Chazz1998 1-0

 

***************************************************************************

 

New Orleans Saints (Cena's Writer 11-6) @ San Francisco 49ers (Devo 11-5)

 

Cena's Writer:

Seattle 17, Green Bay 24

Jacksonville 20, New England 31

San Diego 17, Indianapolis 34

N.Y. Giants 27, Dallas 21

 

Devo:

Seattle 20, Green Bay 31

Jacksonville 38, New England 35

San Diego 17, Indianapolis 28

N.Y. Giants 21, Dallas 31

 

DIFF: SEA/GB, NYG/DAL

 

Both teams are tied at 2-2.

 

First tie-breaker (whoever is closest to the total score of each contest):

Seattle 20 + Green Bay 42 = 62

Jacksonville 20 + New England 31 = 51

San Diego 28 + Indianapolis 24 = 52

N.Y. Giants 21 + Dallas 17 = 38

 

Cena's Writer 41, Devo 51

Cena's Writer 51, Devo 73

Cena's Writer 51, Devo 45

Cena's Writer 48, Devo 52

 

Cena's Writer wins the first tie-breaker 3-1

 

 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
The dream of winning the kkk Bowl/Bored Bowl/kkk Bowl again in succession ends in 6 straight losses. After Week 12 i really hit the wall in this thing.

 

At least you made the damn playoffs.

 

 

*STILL pissed about starting 8-2 and then missing the fucking playoffs*

 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Bah, lost via tiebreaker. Dumb of me to assign 73 points to JAX/NE.

 

Ah well, glad to at least lose to a Jets fan.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Conference Championships

 

San Diego @ New England (14.5)

N.Y. Giants @ Green Bay (7.5)

 

***************************************************************

 

N.Y. Jets (GertT 12-6) @ Pittsburgh Steelers (Kahran Ramsus 11-6)

 

Gert T's Picks:

 

San Diego 13, New England 31

N.Y. Giants 20, Green Bay 28

 

Kahran's Picks:

 

San Diego 14, New England 40

N.Y. Giants 24, Green Bay 34

 

DIFF: Here are the total scores from each contest that will be involved with the first tie-breaker.

 

SD/NE

Total Score: 12-21=33

Gert's total score: 47

Kahran's total score: 56

Gert wins this matchup

 

NYG/GB

Total Score: 23-20=43

Gert's total score: 48

Kahran's total score: 58

Gert wins this matchup

 

Gert T defeats Kahran 2-0 in first-level tie-breaker

 

 

***************************************************************

 

New Orleans Saints (Cena's Writer 12-6) @ Dallas Cowboys (Hawk34 12-5-1)

 

Cena's Picks:

 

San Diego 21, New England 20

N.Y. Giants 28, Green Bay 17

 

Hawk's Picks:

 

San Diego 17, New England 38

New York 16, Green Bay 17

 

DIFF: SD/NE

 

Cena's Writer defeats Hawk34 2-1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Wow, I'm really behind on my recaps. Time to get my backside in gear:

 

AFC EAST

 

Miami Dolphins (Spaceman Spiff)

Record: 11-5 (First place in division)

Notes: A breakout year, Spiff was only 3 PF points better than Bob and 2 PF points better than Gert. What helped him was a low strength of schedule (112 points was “good” for 27th). Spiff needed every win he could get, seeing how his divisional record was 2-4. Where did he get his wins? A 6-2 record in the AFC (outside of the East) and a 3-1 NFC record. His record in games decided by 2 picks: 3-1. His record in games decided by 1 pick: 3-3. His record in games decided by TB: 3-1.

 

Buffalo Bills (Bob Barron 10-6)

Record: 10-6 (Second place in division)

Notes: Another excellent year, Bob manages to get into the postseason each season. He didn’t have the most impressive of PF totals (117, tied for 19th-21st), but a 4-2 division record and a 9-2 record in games decided by 2 picks or less gave him a second-place finish in this division.

 

New York Jets (Gert T)

Record: 10-6 (Third place in division)

Notes: There are two big stories for this season. One deals with a certain poster choking (you already know who you are), and one deals with the exact opposite. Gert’s story is the “opposite.” After an 0-5 start in which he lost 4 games by 1 pick and 1 game by TB, he managed to go 10-1 for the rest of the season and has managed to get into the Conference Championship. His PF/PA stats aren’t all that impressive, (PF: 118, 16th-18th; PA: 114, 21st-23rd), but his close-game record is. After that 0-5 start, his record in games decided by 1 pick or less is 7-0, and his record in games decided by 2 picks is 3-0. In fact, his only loss during this time was by 3 in Week 12.

 

New England Patriots (nl-asshole)

Record: 5-11 (Fourth place in division)

Notes: Much to my delight, I loved chalking up “L’s” seemingly every week in this faggot’s Won/Loss column. I only wish his PF score could have been more pathetic than what it was (115, tied for 23rd-25th), but what I loved was that even though he had the same strength of schedule as his division rival Gert T, Gert managed to actually win some of his games. Oh, yeah. His record in games decided by 1 pick or less? 2-7. In fact, there were only 2 games when he didn’t win by more than 2 picks, and that was during his oh-so-impressive two-game winning streak during Weeks 11-12 (winning by 5 and 3, respectively). This here is a tale of two former kkk Bowl champs. When the going got tough for Gert T, he buckled down and made something of himself. What did nl-asshole do after his 1-3 start? He went 4-9. Way to man up there, champ.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

For the first time this season, I'll be forced to root for NE to dominate.

 

Edit: Of course, the one time they don't run up the score, is when I needed them to.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
Sign in to follow this  

×