Stupid people on TV freaking out over Mass Effect

[AndrewTS 0]

http://www.joystiq.com/2008/01/21/keighley...sexbox-sexpose/

 

I have no words...

 

"What happened to Atari, and pinball!!?"

 

Geoff Keighley is there to provide a level-headed, informed perspective that is repeatedly interrupted and completely ignored by "experts" babbling on about this pr0n game they dreamed up that doesn't exist.

[Scroby 0]

People are idiots.

 

"Have you ever played this game?"

 

"No, I haven't."

 

 

also

 

"Why doesn't this game have a Adult rating?"

[Edwin MacPhisto 0]

Man, you can't write that stuff. Too good.

 

I love this game, by the way. It's the best I've played in forever. And I can't wait to get some hot alien fucking.

[MarvinisaLunatic 0]

Welcome back to 2007?

[AndrewTS 0]

Welcome back to 2007?

 

It's actually quite unusual for a game to come out this recent and then the freak outs beginning.

 

Usually it's either so long after that it isn't even relevant, or way before the thing even comes out (see: Bully, 25 to Life, and whatever game that idiot lawyer ends up crusading over).

[Craig Th 0]

How come we never hear about the media attacking movies? The kid could come home and stick in, I dunno, Taking Lives and see Angelina Jolie getting fucked by Ethan Hawke.

 

It's the side of a boob and an ass. Oh no.

[Scroby 0]

It's because video games are much more easier for someone to attack. Video games are on a very thin line when it comes to protecting kids from things that are for adults and people will try their damnest to make video games cross that line and make them seem evil.

[Mike wanna be 0]

As they say, "A new scientific truth does not triumph by convincing its opponents and making them see the light, but rather because its opponents eventually die and a new generation grows up that is familiar with it".

 

We gamers just need to hold on to our "Fuck you, let the characters do whatever the hell they want" stance for another decade or two and we'll be fine.

[treble 0]

Ha. "It's up to parent's to monitor what there kids see." "Yes it is, unfortunately"

 

Also, the guy in the glasses is great with his explanation of the game he bought for his daughter and "Who can argue that Luke Skywalker meeting Debbie Does Dallas is a good thing?"

[Ced 0]

Since when did being an expert in a subject only require a strong opinion in the matter and not actual expertise in the subject you're discussing?

 

It's kind of a shame to think that some people still want to believe that video games are only for kids and fail to realize that it's evolved into a medium comparable to television and movies.

[The Ghost of bps21 0]

The best part is when the woman laughs when asked if she had played the game.

 

Responsible journalism abounds

[Maztinho 0]

The best part is when the woman laughs when asked if she had played the game.

 

Responsible journalism abounds

 

That was like the other expert, the actual journalist made some attempt to check the game and only had a comment on the easy access to the website which just required an age identification, but had no "questionable material" in and of itself.

 

Stuff like this always reminds me of the time a dad walked up to me in a game store while I was browsing and asked my opinion on a game similar to GTA, but not GTA, I pointed out the Medal of Honor series as it has similar elements of sniping, driving, etc, and had a T rating and he wound up getting Hitman instead and I said, "Oh so you are just objecting to a car shaking back and forth while parked?" Parents need to step up and stop throwing their hands in the air and take an active investment in what their kids are playing.

 

I have an aunt that has me screen any game that her kids want since she knows zero about games, and knows I'll at least give her accurate information.

 

We got into a debate in this in one of my education courses if Video Games cause more violence in schools and it was amazing to me how fast people would go to "well the neighbors have it" defense. "We can block it in our house, but they can go to a neighbors house and play it." Yeah, that's true, but you can know what's accurately in the game and discuss the content with your kids, maybe even rent the game and sit down and play it with them and tell them specifics of why you don't like the games content. Tossing a blanket, "This is banned" is just going to make the kids want to play it more. It was pretty funny watching all these people just get flustered and not being able to argue anything but the same three points and the teacher commented that our Pro-Game side was the only class in three years to win the debate.

[Thoth 0]

I was really disappointed. If they wanted to go after sex in games, they should have gone after Dead or Alive Xtreme 2 or Rumble Roses XX. I wouldn't have minded, because I think both of those games are terrible. They also give you more "action", although nothing graphic.

 

Sex in games was probably best done in Indigo Prophecy/Fahrenheit. Maybe. I don't have enough reference material to go on.

[AndrewTS 0]

I was really disappointed. If they wanted to go after sex in games, they should have gone after Dead or Alive Xtreme 2 or Rumble Roses XX. I wouldn't have minded, because I think both of those games are terrible.

 

Nuh-uh. I'd say the control and collision are much tighter than the flippy-floppy Smackdown games, and I notice far fewer graphical glitches overall. Other than that, it's practically the same game as those, minus the completely broken stat system, cheap-ass AI, and fewer game modes. XX added way more gameplay modes, but the replacement for the story mode (that freaking tedious career mode) does indeed suck.

 

The original Rumble Roses was thick with lesbian overtones in the story mode, but it was played for laughs anyway. Losing that was the biggest thing that lost it points for the folks who liked RR. Rumble Roses 3 with returning story mode, plz.

[Thoth 0]

The lack of story mode, or any sense of direction at all in Rumble Roses XX is what killed it for me. Game plays just fine (though I'd like up or down grapples that don't mimic down grapples)

[Ripper 0]

I think its funny that people have been saying for over 15 years now that gaming is a area for kids. What the fuck do they think happened to the kids that were playing games 15 years ago? They are in their mid twenties and thirties now. How the fuck do they still think that kids are the majority of game players.

 

And that dumb black chick in this video, seemed to take a shot at women working, and Dads irresponsibility. That is some good throwing everyone under the bus there.

 

And apparently Debbie Does Dallas only had a side boob and and a BUTT...what the hell movie is that I saw.

 

But seriously, unless you are half retarded, you should be able to put a parental block on the xbox. I am done with all the bitching about games. Fuck kids. Stop trying to take away my entertainment because you want to suck up to kids. Fuck them kids.

[AndrewTS 0]

The lack of story mode, or any sense of direction at all in Rumble Roses XX is what killed it for me. Game plays just fine (though I'd like up or down grapples that don't mimic down grapples)

 

Okay, agreed on that. I think tag team modes make up for it, mostly (and I'm glad heel and face versions of characters are available at all times once unlocked), but I don't know why they broke something that didn't need any changes.

 

I think its funny that people have been saying for over 15 years now that gaming is a area for kids. What the fuck do they think happened to the kids that were playing games 15 years ago? They are in their mid twenties and thirties now. How the fuck do they still think that kids are the majority of game players.

 

That would be sound reasoning if all those kids grew out of it. Thing is, a lot of them didn't, and you need only look to PC gaming and the HD systems to see that. Or look at the popularity of Youtube videos like the AVGN videos. Or look at the sales of Halo 3. Your average console gamer today is probably in their 20s. I know that was the general area for the demographics on the consoles last generation. My colleagues at work are virtually all 18-35, and nearly every guy there at least has some interest in gaming. Hell, I have a supervisor who plays ROMs on his custom firmware PSP on his lunch.

 

I know there's figures pointing out that the average gamer age is much, much older, but that's usually skewed by counting people who play solitaire and bejeweled on their computers.

[Ripper 0]

I think its funny that people have been saying for over 15 years now that gaming is a area for kids. What the fuck do they think happened to the kids that were playing games 15 years ago? They are in their mid twenties and thirties now. How the fuck do they still think that kids are the majority of game players.

 

That would be sound reasoning if all those kids grew out of it. Thing is, a lot of them didn't, and you need only look to PC gaming and the HD systems to see that. Your average console gamer is probably in their 20s.

 

I know there's figures pointing out that the average gamer age is much, much older, but that's usually skewed by counting people who play solitaire and bejeweled on their computers.

 

Hell, I would say MOST didn't grow out of gaming. We just started playing more games geared to our age.

 

[Black Lushus 0]

Thanks to numerous nights of Pro Wrestling for the NES, I now wear green pirahnna outfits and randomly bite people's heads.

 

Fucking video games.

[Ripper 0]

I stomp on turtles and punch bricks all the time...but I can't think of a video game that would have caused that....

[AndrewTS 0]

I want Nintendo to release the most controversial Virtual Console games they can find so these idiots can freak out more.

 

River City Ransom with Partial Nudity descriptor (The GBA upgrade did get a T rating, incidentally...)! Count on it!

[Guest Smues]

I stomp on turtles and punch bricks all the time...but I can't think of a video game that would have caused that....

Aha, the truth behind how you broke your hand!

 

I finally watched this video just now. I expected it to be annoying, not anger provoking. It ended up being the latter. Hey look here's some one with some KNOWLEDGE about our TOPIC OF DISCUSSION. Well we could keep him involved in the entire discussion but why do that when we can boot him after 30 seconds and just talk with all the people who have ZERO actual knowledge about the product and are all anti-video game. Where's pac-man? Give me a fucking break. Using that logic why do we have all these 'talkies' in the movie theatre because silent films were so much better!

 

I also love how they read the quote from Microsoft about the parental lock features they have on the 360 (which they just called the X-box) and then completely forget about it as they worry about kids coming home before hard working mom and dad and wanting to play dads games. But THE STUDIES THE STUDIES I HAVE TO GO BACK TO THE STUDIES THE STUDIES SHOW THAT KIDS NEVER MAKE THE CONNECTION BECAUSE GAMES AND REALITY! Ugg.

 

On a side note I feel that this is the place to mention that when I was a young'un my parents bought me Mortal Kombat AND Leisure Suit Larry, and knew exactly what the content in the games was. I'm still a little baffled about being allowed to play Leisure Suit Larry, but my guess is my dad knew I was too young to understand 90% of the adult content anyway. And I can specifically remember at age 12 asking my dad if I would be able to get Mortal Kombat 2 for Christmas because of how bloody it was and had all the fatalities and such and my dad telling me he didn't have a problem with it because he knew I knew the difference between video games and reality. It probably helped that TOASTY never failed to crack my dad up.

 

In fact I can't remember ever in my life being told there was a specific video game I could not play, and my parents saw pretty much every game I ever had.

 

Sider note: I never had a video game banned from my house, but I wasn't allowed to watch Beavis & Butthead or You Can't Do That On Television. I get the Beavis & Butthead ban (in fact I remember her sitting with me and watching a full episode to see what it was and then deciding that it wasn't for me, so she didn't just base it off the name), but I still to this day haven't figured out the YCDTOT ban. My mom is wierd I guess.

[NoCalMike 0]

Whatever happened to parents just explaining that movies/music/art/videogames/entertainment can be used as escapism, but it is not something to go out and emulate. That talk seemed to work for me, as I was never really not allowed to watch/list to anything when I was a kid. I mean that explanation of course is an over-simplification of things, but that is how you might tell a youngster, and if they have a brain, they can naturally put the pieces together as they grow older. I mean, I grew up watching the most brainless action movies, some violent & gory as fuck horror movies, listened to all the music that was deemed "the devil" and I turned out fine just like the other 99.99999999% of folks that do/did.......

 

 

[The Ghost of bps21 0]

My parents were big on that when I was growing up.

 

Knowing fiction from reality was second only to right from wrong in my early days.

[AndrewTS 0]

Hey look here's some one with some KNOWLEDGE about our TOPIC OF DISCUSSION. Well we could keep him involved in the entire discussion but why do that when we can boot him after 30 seconds and just talk with all the people who have ZERO actual knowledge about the product and are all anti-video game.

 

Well, this is Fox News, where the idea of "fair and balanced coverage" is putting on a guy like Alan Combes, a liberal (assuming he's not just a character) who seems to be so spineless his body must be held up by a system of weights and pulleys.

 

I'm hoping that Jon Stewart has a take on this, but I guess it doesn't even require jokes. It makes its own gravy.

[Craig Th 0]

Leisure Suit Larry

I totally forgot about that game. I remember my friend Brian had it and we played it all the time. Though we had to sneak it since his parents would have freaked out. And I think it was his Dads game. Not sure though.

 

I mean, those were the same parents who said he couldn't stay over one night because "he had too much fun" that day. And now he suffers. I saw an old friend of mine who lives with him and asked why he wasn't out. He told me it's because he was playing World of Warcraft. On Thanksgiving Eve. By himself.

[Conspiracy_Victim 0]

"Full digital nudity" and "graphic sex"? What version did I get? All I got was a blue hand on a window, a side boob, a bit of ass crack, and some annoying Tennyson poetry.

 

This is not "Pandora's Box". These people obviously have never been exposed to the game itself, only read the sensationalized reports. At least Geoff Keighley tried to correct the pshrink. I did like the "those who have PLAYED the game" comment.

 

I will say the same thing I always do. My father brought home the Atari 2600 in 1980 and I've been playing video games ever since. I've never killed anyone, picked up a hooker then beat her to death, or done anything else that all these hand-wringers seem to think that video games infect people's brains with. It's up to the parents to teach their kids right and wrong, not blame any and all forms of entertainment when they shirk their responsibilities as parents.

[Black Lushus 0]

I remember when I was younger I wanted to play LSL so bad, but was never able to thanks to the folks...but then I played it when I was older and was like "That's it?" LSL 6 kicks ass, though.

[Ravenbomb 0]

I hate the whole "Oh, it's not dads that are mostly playing the games, it's the little kids" shit. I'm not a little kid or a dad, why is it that only the two extremes exist to these people?