Broadway Brett beats retirement!

[Lt. Al Giardello 0]

NFL Network also reported that the Packers might be willing to trade Favre to the Vikings or Bears... Wow...

[Kahran Ramsus 0]

I've been mostly on the Packers side so far, but if Favre comes out of the tunnel on opening night in purple than Ted Thompson should be fired on the spot. It would absolutely destroy the team and is the absolute worst case scenario. It would be like New York deciding to trade Jeter to the Red Sox. Chicago is bad enough, but you absolutely cannot allow someone like Favre to go to the team that will be competing with you for the divisional title this year even without him. The circus that would surround this team with Favre on the bench would be insignificant to what would happen if he were on the Vikings.

[cabbageboy 0]

For whatever reason I can't get why Thompson has this unreal obsession with Aaron Rodgers. Yet the actions before this Favre debacle are puzzling. Why draft Brian Brohm if you think Rodgers is truly the answer?

 

If Favre truly does come back he ends up starting again. Rodgers can demand a trade himself and I would imagine several teams would take him. Then Favre does in fact retire in a year or two, and they have Brohm right there.

[Guest Cal Moriarty]

I don't get it either. I still maintain that they're a better team with Favre than without him, and for Thompson to keep insisting that Rodgers is his guy is strange. Is it just a matter of being the new guy in town and wanting to install your own guys? I still think he winds up playing for the Packers, which I thought all the way back when he was blubbering for the cameras last February.

[MFer 0]

Yeah, the drafting of Brohm was a little puzzling to me as well. Even if the Packers thought Favre was done for good, you're still investing a 2nd round pick on a guy to be the backup to Rodgers, who's only a couple years older. It's not like Rodgers was a 5th-round pick or an aging veteran himself, he was a 1st-round pick only 3 years ago.

[USC Wuz Robbed! 0]

Yeah, the drafting of Brohm was a little puzzling to me as well. Even if the Packers thought Favre was done for good, you're still investing a 2nd round pick on a guy to be the backup to Rodgers, who's only a couple years older. It's not like Rodgers was a 5th-round pick or an aging veteran himself, he was a 1st-round pick only 3 years ago.

 

I always thought it was to prevent the Bears from taking Brohm for some reason (not that the Bears would have picked him anyways). But that could be too silly to be true.

[Guest Cal Moriarty]

I bet Bob Harlan never would've allowed this to happen.

 

That the Packers would draft Brohm to keep him off the Bears presupposes that the Bears would draft an offensive player worth shit.

[Guest Vitamin X]

Bob Harlan DID allow this to happen. He's still an advisor to the team and remaining as "Chairman-Emeritus", but just though the 2008 season, after which he will just serve as a "goodwill ambassador."

[Guest Vitamin X]

Well, looks like Brett is actively considering the bribe to be 'best'...

"There isn't a perfect solution to this, but [Packers president] Mark Murphy is at least trying," Favre told ESPN's Ed Werder via text message on Thursday night. "We know what they want and where I stand. His solution, although awkward and unsettling for most, may be the best in the end.''

Hahahaha, if he takes the money, man... I won't say I hate the man, or lose respect for him like if he went to the Vikings or Bears, but I'd definitely lose some respect for the guy.

[HarleyQuinn 0]

"My intentions have been to play, and with Green Bay," Favre told ESPN. "They say no, so I still want to play in this division for obvious reasons, which I made clear to management. If they won’t let me play in Green Bay, let me play against you. That’s where I am."

 

Is he serious? Un-fucking-believable...

 

So, he wants to play for Green Bay but if he doesn't get his way and gets released or traded instead, he wants to go to a division rival so he can get his personal revenge/satisfaction out when he plays against them?

 

I think I'm flabbergasted at the sheer gall on display there. He's basically asking the team to send him to a division rival so he can win games over his former team and cause his former fans misery by leading the Bears or Vikings to wins, just because he wants to "play" in Green Bay in any way possible.

[Guest Tzar Lysergic]

Farve in a Bears jersey would be fuckin' surreal.

 

I'm all for it.

[Guest Cal Moriarty]

You're flabbergasted, but are you necessarily surprised? After this bullshit, why wouldn't he want to stick it to the Packers? It's pretty audacious (and emo-lyrical) to come right out and say "if I can't love you, I want to hurt you," but that's probably what every athlete thinks in situations like these. I don't know how it works in Boston; maybe tenured Patriots distribute press releases announcing how honored they were to be wadded up and thrown away by a fine man like Bill Belichick, but usually these guys want to stick it to their former organizations when they feel they've been dishonorably discharged.

[Mike wanna be 0]

You're flabbergasted, but are you necessarily surprised? After this bullshit, why wouldn't he want to stick it to the Packers? It's pretty audacious (and emo-lyrical) to come right out and say "if I can't love you, I want to hurt you," but that's probably what every athlete thinks in situations like these. I don't know how it works in Boston; maybe tenured Patriots distribute press releases announcing how honored they were to be wadded up and thrown away by a fine man like Bill Belichick, but usually these guys want to stick it to their former organizations when they feel they've been dishonorably discharged.

Dishonorable discharge my ass, he fucking walked away. He said "I'm done, I'm not playing any more, move on without me", and somehow honoring his "final" request as a Packer is dishonorable? Fuck that, you don't get it both ways.

 

He would have been the unquestioned starter if he hadn't retired; he would have been the unquestioned starter if he spent the entire offseason thinking about retiring without ever making a definitive say one way or the other. He stepped up and officially said he was done and officially told them to move on, and now hot-shit gunslinger wants to go to another NFC North team for free (he still wants to be released) because Green Bay did what he told them to do and moved on. Fuck you, Favre.

[HarleyQuinn 0]

You're flabbergasted, but are you necessarily surprised? After this bullshit, why wouldn't he want to stick it to the Packers? It's pretty audacious (and emo-lyrical) to come right out and say "if I can't love you, I want to hurt you," but that's probably what every athlete thinks in situations like these. I don't know how it works in Boston; maybe tenured Patriots distribute press releases announcing how honored they were to be wadded up and thrown away by a fine man like Bill Belichick, but usually these guys want to stick it to their former organizations when they feel they've been dishonorably discharged.

 

Well, keep in mind that those players who were "thrown away" by Belichick didn't retire first, come back expecting the Patriots to hand them their starting job, and then whine that they wanted to play for the Jets/Bills/Dolphins just to stick it to him (or the organization).

 

I completely understand wanting to stick it to past organizations but Brett Favre retired. He walked away. So, the Packers promoted Rodgers to starter and drafted 2 quarterbacks. Suddenly, Brett comes back and wants to be the starter again (also saying he doesn't want to be a backup and doesn't want to be traded unless it's to a winner).

 

Favre is coming off as a total jerk in this scenario and thinking about taking the $20 Million is just further proof when he has a chance to be traded to the New York Jets instead but doesn't want to because they likely wouldn't make the playoffs and he can't play Green Bay.

 

I guess I'm more amazed at the audacity of Brett, as if expecting the club to bend over backwards for his demands is realistic whilst stating within those demands that he wants to go to a division rival if he doesn't get his way.

[Guest Vitamin X]

Fuck this guy. Let him go play for the fucking Vikings, but fleece some of that offensive line in a trade, as well. He'll have no one to throw it to over there anyways, and when he meets the most hostile reception he's ever gotten at fucking Lambeau of all places, he can go and throw another back-breaking interception or two like the one that cost us the NFC Championship last year.

 

Ted Thompson is not the guy Packers fans should be mad at if Favre comes back to play for another team. Favre is the selfish prick in this situation, Thompson has done nothing but help build a young, great team through the draft on the cheap along with Mike McCarthy (who he also hired).

[BX 0]

Oh thank fuck, finally. I mean, it's still a week from Monday until I can watch the Packers play and presumably watch both our starting quarterback and starting running back get injured for the year then (assuming the latter isn't still holding out), but I'll watch little bits here and there.

 

The latter has struck a deal with the Pack...

 

http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/08/02/...eal-with-grant/

 

With the Brett Favre fiasco on full boil, the Packers found a way to take care of some other business on Saturday, working out a new contract with running back Ryan Grant.

 

Per Jay Glazer of FOXSports.com, the Packers and Grant have agreed to terms. The terms, however, are not yet known.

 

Grant reportedly wanted $40 million over six years. The Packers reportedly offered a six-year package that included $1.75 million in bonuses and paid out only $4.5 million over the first two years.

 

Grant had little leverage, given his status as an exclusive rights free agent. But he apparently has parlayed seven starts in 2007 and 956 yards rushing into some long-term security.

[Guest Vitamin X]

Oh, thank FUCK for that, too. The Brett Favre fiasco seems like just some dumb bullshit now. The thing with Grant is that the Packers wanted him to try and repeat the performance he had last year with the one-year tender offer to prove it wasn't a fluke. As long as I've been a fan, Green Bay tends to reward their players with midseason extensions, rather than deal with offseason drama. The last two players to create holdout drama were Dorsey Levens in 1998, and Antonio Freeman in 1999, both after career years. Actually, a third one, with Javon Walker in 2004, almost forgot about that. All three of them held out of training camp and some preseason games, and all of them broke their legs or fucked up their knees in September. Since Levens and Freeman, I've come to the conclusion that holding out almost always leads to a nasty, season-ending injury in the first month of the season. Always. Thankfully, this issue was resolved early and hopefully Grant can continue the success he had last year.

[BruiserKC 0]

This has been going on for three years now...going back to when the Packers drafted Rodgers and Favre stated at the time that it's not his responsibility to groom Rodgers to take over when he retires. Favre would think about retirement during the offseason, leave the team in the lurch, then come back another season. I'm sure that at some point the scenario would get old when he played that card once too often.

 

Favre's worn out his welcome in Green Bay, plain and simple. The Green Bay front office (and possibly some of the veterans and players on the team) got tired of the act and said enough is enough.

[Kahran Ramsus 0]

The problem here is that Favre isn't being flexible at all. The Packers don't want him back, then fine, but Favre is still under contract and they have the right to trade him to wherever they want. However, Favre doesn't just want to play, he wants to screw over the Packers by going to the one team that would hurt them the most and he wants a release rather than a trade so that they get no compensation back. I'm sorry, but the Packers are more than willing to settle this and it is Favre that hasn't budged one bit from his initial demand. If he really wants to play, what is wrong with playing for Tampa Bay which happens to be a contender as it is?

[JaMarcus Russell's #1 Caucasian Fan 0]

Well endgame is here: Favre is reinstated by the NFL and will report to Packers camp

 

 

Favre reinstated

[Kinetic 0]

The press release sent out by the Packers makes it sound like they're now grudgingly going to allow Favre to compete for the starting job. Having resigned myself to the fact that he's not going to end up in Tampa, I'm really hoping that he somehow ends up in Minnesota just for the sheer drama of the Monday night season opener in Green Bay.

[naiwf 0]

Aaron Rodgers should demand a trade tomorrow.

[2GOLD 0]

Aaron Rodgers should demand a trade tomorrow.

 

Tomorrow? After the report the Packers are now going to let Farve compete for the starting job, Rodgers should make the demand around right now. The "future" quarterback of the Packers is going to retire for good before Brett does.

 

Only way Aaron Rodgers is starting for the Green Bay Packers is if he makes himself the starter in Madden 09. Otherwise, he's screwed.

 

 

[naiwf 0]

Aaron Rodgers should demand a trade tomorrow.

 

Tomorrow? After the report the Packers are now going to let Farve compete for the starting job, Rodgers should make the demand around right now. The "future" quarterback of the Packers is going to retire for good before Brett does.

 

Only way Aaron Rodgers is starting for the Green Bay Packers is if he makes himself the starter in Madden 09. Otherwise, he's screwed.

 

I'm figuring that Favre could still change his mind tonight.

[MarvinisaLunatic 0]

God is back in Green Bay.

 

Does anyone really buy this "there will be a QB competition" nonsense?

[MarvinisaLunatic 0]

Aaron Rodgers should demand a trade tomorrow.

 

Tomorrow? After the report the Packers are now going to let Farve compete for the starting job, Rodgers should make the demand around right now. The "future" quarterback of the Packers is going to retire for good before Brett does.

 

Only way Aaron Rodgers is starting for the Green Bay Packers is if he makes himself the starter in Madden 09. Otherwise, he's screwed.

 

 

 

Speaking of Madden, I guess the guy on the cover isn't going to be in the game this year. I wonder if that affects the curse in any way.

[Matt Young 0]

God is back in Green Bay.

 

Does anyone really buy this "there will be a QB competition" nonsense?

 

Fuck, I don't know what to think anymore. I've gone from hoping Favre would come back, to hoping he'd accept the marketing deal and stay retired, and now I'm not sure. If he starts for the Packers, great. Anything else would taint his legacy. And if there's a QB competition, Favre wins easily.

 

This preseason action has been decent so far. The AFL just played their championship game last week, so it's nice to have soem football after a week of none. Sucks that the Packers game is on during Raw, though. I'll likely miss a good chunk of it.

[Matt Young 0]

Aaron Rodgers should demand a trade tomorrow.

 

Tomorrow? After the report the Packers are now going to let Farve compete for the starting job, Rodgers should make the demand around right now. The "future" quarterback of the Packers is going to retire for good before Brett does.

 

Only way Aaron Rodgers is starting for the Green Bay Packers is if he makes himself the starter in Madden 09. Otherwise, he's screwed.

 

 

 

Speaking of Madden, I guess the guy on the cover isn't going to be in the game this year. I wonder if that affects the curse in any way.

 

What? He was already going to be in the game as a 99 overall free agent. He's playable. EA did say they'd likely lower his ranking to 95 via roster update if he became active, though.

 

[Matt Young 0]

The preseason game discussion thread has been unnecessarily merged with this one, making it confusing. Then again, unnecessary merging of topics is the M.O. of the new TSM!

[Guest Tzar Lysergic]

Yeah, I tried doing something and fucked up.