nl5xsk1 Posted June 25, 2008 Report Posted June 25, 2008 Youkilis hit in the eye with a practice throw from Mike Lowell. Immediate shiner, removed from the game. Sean Casey dropped his appeal and began his suspension for whatever he did in the brawl against the Rays on june 5. Your Red Sox first baseman...Brendan Moss. A backup outfielder with very limited first base experience. Baseball is a funny game sometimes II. Maybe al - or someone else - can answer this for me ... why does it seem that an appeal in MLB takes weeks & weeks to be heard? The brawl with the Rays was June 5th, and their appeals were going to be heard just this week? Can't they use videoconferencing and get that shit done within just a few days of the suspension?
jimmy no nose Posted June 25, 2008 Report Posted June 25, 2008 After all the Hank Steinbrenner pitchers hitting talk last week I'd like to think it was intentional that the Pirates have walked the Yankee starters in 3 straight plate appearances, but I'm pretty sure it's just they can't pitch.
naiwf Posted June 25, 2008 Report Posted June 25, 2008 David Wright gets a day off and comes back with 2 HRs in 2 ABs. Who knew that resting a guy once in a while might actually stop a prolonged slump?
MarvinisaLunatic Posted June 26, 2008 Report Posted June 26, 2008 Its another pretty day at Wrigley. Matt Albers is pitching? Wha? Burres scratched with food poisoning.. heh
Bruiser Chong Posted June 26, 2008 Report Posted June 26, 2008 And Albers leaves after a third of an inning with an injury. I don't expect a plethora of Marvin update posts tonight.
Guest !!! Posted June 26, 2008 Report Posted June 26, 2008 Well, if he had planned to post a plethora of in-game updates, I was going to change his plans.
MarvinisaLunatic Posted June 26, 2008 Report Posted June 26, 2008 I didnt really do it last night. Its looking like it could end up being a back and forth game.. or not
MarvinisaLunatic Posted June 26, 2008 Report Posted June 26, 2008 WTF Payton with another 2 run HR! Holy crap man...
Precious Roy Posted June 26, 2008 Report Posted June 26, 2008 Joba has been pretty awesome his last two starts. Granted it's been against the Padres and Pirates, but he's handled an awkward transition exceptionally well. He just needs to work on getting his pitch count down and getting some easier outs off of contact rather than trying to strike every batter out and he's going to be in ace territory sooner than expected. I was pretty strongly against the move, but in hindsight, with Wang getting hurt, it's probably worked out for the best. Still not entirely comfortable with the bullpen situation though.
Montresor Posted June 26, 2008 Report Posted June 26, 2008 I was pretty strongly against the move What? Why?
Bruiser Chong Posted June 26, 2008 Report Posted June 26, 2008 I'm ready to eat crow Re: Jim Edmonds. He looked awful at first, but he's become a real cog in this offense. Even if he goes in the tank again, he's already made Hendry's investment look wise.
Bored Posted June 26, 2008 Report Posted June 26, 2008 There's been almost no All-Star discussion (and maybe with good reason?) but it's a couple of weeks away so might as well look at how the voting is going. A.L. All-Star Voting Update Locked Up 3B: Alex Rodriguez SS: Derek Jeter DH: David Ortiz OF: Manny Ramirez, Josh Hamilton Comfortable Leads 1B: Kevin Youkilis over Justin Morneau 2B: Dustin Pedroia over Ian Kinsler OF: Ichiro Suzuki over Vladimir Guerrero Tight Race C: Joe Mauer over Jason Varitek N.L. All-Star Voting Update Locked Up C: Geovany Soto 1B: Lance Berkman 2B: Chase Utley 3B: Chipper Jones OF: Alfonso Soriano Comfortable Leads OF: Kosuke Fukudome and Ken Griffey Jr. over Ryan Braun Tight Race SS: Hanley Ramirez over Miguel Tejada
Guest !!! Posted June 26, 2008 Report Posted June 26, 2008 Here's a real cookie of a headline from mlb.com: • Chacon asks Astros for trade I can only hope that the response was "Fuck you. You're Shawn Chacon." Seven of the AL's nine could conceivably be Red Sox or Yankees. Viva la American League.
Bruiser Chong Posted June 26, 2008 Report Posted June 26, 2008 Here's a real cookie of a headline from mlb.com: • Chacon asks Astros for trade I can only hope that the response was "Fuck you. You're Shawn Chacon." Seven of the AL's nine could conceivably be Red Sox or Yankees. Viva la American League. Might be a tough, but necessary move. Let's hope he gets traded to a team with a GM who has good self-defense skills.
Precious Roy Posted June 26, 2008 Report Posted June 26, 2008 I was pretty strongly against the move What? Why? Because the bullpen is generally ass aside from Rivera. As I, and many others, argued, a late inning combo of Joba-Rivera was an invaluable commodity. We don't have that now, we now have a total crapshoot until we get Mo in the game, if we get Mo in the game, and though Girardi hasn't done it yet, there's the risk of him overusing Mo to make up for the lack of a reliable setup man like Torre did all too often. Don't get me wrong, I love Joba as a starter longterm, and so far shorterm based on how well he's acclimated himself, but the move created a ton of bullpen questions that have yet to really be answered. I'm not at all comfortable with an unsettled pen, I've seen the Yankees lose too many games, and put themselves in a position where they can't even get Rivera into the game over the last several years due to that. Having a "lights out" bridge to the closer who you can bring in in the 7th or 8th inning is apparently underrated, but I think it's an absolute necessity for a winning club.
jimmy no nose Posted June 26, 2008 Report Posted June 26, 2008 As if anyone needed a reminder of how awful the Pirates have been for the past decade-plus, if you have a minute I suggest checking out this link. The Altoona Curve have been the Pirates Double A affiliate for 10 years now, during which the Pirates have had tons of high draft picks, trades of stars for prospects, etc. and just try to find a recognizable name who has ever played for the team: http://www.altoonacurve.com/fanzone/annivpoll/ Bronson Arroyo looks like the most successful product to come through the system.
Montresor Posted June 26, 2008 Report Posted June 26, 2008 I was pretty strongly against the move What? Why? Because the bullpen is generally ass aside from Rivera. And the rotation is generally ass aside from Chamberlain. Then: A mediocre-to-bad starting pitcher and a mediocre-to-bad middle reliever for 7 innings, Chamberlain for 1, Rivera for 1. Now: At least one very good starting pitcher for 6-8 innings, a lousy reliever for 1 or 2, Rivera for 1. Having a "lights out" bridge to the closer who you can bring in in the 7th or 8th inning is apparently underrated, but I think it's an absolute necessity for a winning club. Mike Mussina (whom I love) is their ace. Three of their four outfielders can't field. Jeter (GIDP machine), Abreu, Cano, and Cabrera: .259/.316/.381. But by all means, continue to obsess over 2 innings of a 9-inning baseball game.
MFer Posted June 26, 2008 Report Posted June 26, 2008 Thank God the Tigers pulled that one out. Ugly ass game (20 Detroit LOB's, WTF?) but a great ending. Sheff's bounced back pretty nicely from that injury.
Precious Roy Posted June 26, 2008 Report Posted June 26, 2008 Having a "lights out" bridge to the closer who you can bring in in the 7th or 8th inning is apparently underrated, but I think it's an absolute necessity for a winning club. Mike Mussina (whom I love) is their ace. Three of their four outfielders can't field. Jeter (GIDP machine), Abreu, Cano, and Cabrera: .259/.316/.381. But by all means, continue to obsess over 2 innings of a 9-inning baseball game. Don't really see what that has to with the bullpen,. Jeter, Abreu and Cano are proven hitters who will start performing to expectations at some point barring some sort of ridiculous wasted season type slumping. I'd put money on all 3 of them heating up over the summer. Cabrera, who knows, he started off hot and then shit the bed, but he's basically the #9 hitter, it's not like this season hinges on his performace at the plate.
CanadianChris Posted June 26, 2008 Report Posted June 26, 2008 Here's a real cookie of a headline from mlb.com: • Chacon asks Astros for trade I can only hope that the response was "Fuck you. You're Shawn Chacon." I think it was going to be something like that until Chacon tried to beat up Ed Wade.
sfaJack Posted June 26, 2008 Report Posted June 26, 2008 You all probably wouldn't believe the number of people defending Chacon and villifying Ed Wade in this town this morning. "Ed Wade had it coming to him for assembling this shitty team!" is the most common argument.
CanadianChris Posted June 26, 2008 Report Posted June 26, 2008 You all probably wouldn't believe the number of people defending Chacon and villifying Ed Wade in this town this morning. "Ed Wade had it coming to him for assembling this shitty team!" is the most common argument. I've seen a lot of Phillie fans thinking along those lines, too.
TheDevilAndGodAreRagingInsideMe Posted June 26, 2008 Report Posted June 26, 2008 Jeter's slump directly coincided with him being drilled in the wrist by Daniel Cabrera several weeks back. He refused to come out of the line up and it hurt the team and also his numbers. Lately, he has begun to heat up again, and his SS has been passable so far. Cano has been awful at the plate, showing signs of life the last few games. But his play in the field has been exempliary. Melky has been flat out awful. Neither him or his buddy ever take any pitches, they make weak hacks, and they are black holes in the line up. And the past two days, Melky has been leading off with Damon limping a bit. Not good. I do not want to get into the whole debate again. But Joba Chamberlain has to be a starter. He is a starter. He will be a starter. That's it. Ramirez, Veras, and Ohlendorf have been fine in the pen.
Cheech Tremendous Posted June 26, 2008 Report Posted June 26, 2008 There's been almost no All-Star discussion (and maybe with good reason?) but it's a couple of weeks away so might as well look at how the voting is going. A.L. All-Star Voting Update Locked Up 3B: Alex Rodriguez SS: Derek Jeter DH: David Ortiz OF: Manny Ramirez, Josh Hamilton Comfortable Leads 1B: Kevin Youkilis over Justin Morneau 2B: Dustin Pedroia over Ian Kinsler OF: Ichiro Suzuki over Vladimir Guerrero Tight Race C: Joe Mauer over Jason Varitek N.L. All-Star Voting Update Locked Up C: Geovany Soto 1B: Lance Berkman 2B: Chase Utley 3B: Chipper Jones OF: Alfonso Soriano Comfortable Leads OF: Kosuke Fukudome and Ken Griffey Jr. over Ryan Braun Tight Race SS: Hanley Ramirez over Miguel Tejada Same old predictable NY/Boston/Chicago show.
MarvinisaLunatic Posted June 26, 2008 Report Posted June 26, 2008 Orioles bullpen isn't that good. Lets see how good the Cubs bullpen is if they have to come in and pitch 8 2/3 innings today because Marquis gets knocked out in with 1 out in the 1st. The Bullpen had the 4th best ERA in the AL, and given the situation of having to come in and pitch 7 2/3 innings I think they did well only giving up 3 runs to the Cubs, too bad the damage was done off Albers. I dont have very high hopes for today with Liz in there. He only made it through 2 innings his last start vs Milwaukee and I dont see how he can be expected to get at least 6 which is what they need after yesterday.
MarvinisaLunatic Posted June 26, 2008 Report Posted June 26, 2008 Im stuck listening to the Cubs feed on XM because directv isn't passing the audio on the HD feed. this is fun lol send Ron Santo a FAX! What is this..1985? 4pm update: Boring game despite being 7-0..Liz aint gonna make it 6 either 4:30 I would like to know why Lou Pinella left Marquis in to bat in the bottom of the 4th only to pull him for Lieber (their supposed long reliever) in the 5th and then pull Lieber for Eyre in the 6th. Wierd, not that Im going to complain any with the Os up 8-0 and the bases loaded.
jwest27 Posted June 26, 2008 Report Posted June 26, 2008 Albert is back and he went 4-4 with a walk, yet the Cards still lose because John Parisi isn't very good. Damn it.
MarvinisaLunatic Posted June 26, 2008 Report Posted June 26, 2008 2 of 3 from the team with the best overall and home record in baseball.. I'll take it.
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